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[News] Heretic 2 approved for distributionANN.lu
Posted on 23-May-2000 20:12 GMT by Christian Kemp24 comments
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Ben Hermans/Hyperion writes: Hyperion's Heretic 2 port was approved for distribution after rigorous testing by Activision and Ravensoft. The Amiga version running on a Cyberstorm PPC 200mhz and Cybervision PPC outperforms the Windows version running on the same Permedia 2 with Pentium II 400 mhz.
Heretic 2 approved for distribution : Comment 1 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by redrumloa on 22-May-2000 22:00 GMT
This shows the quality of Hyperion!! Kudos!!! PPC owners buy up!! I am looking for a
PPC card myself right now, if I get one this will be on my shopping list:) I only hope
there was a ready supply of NEW PPC cards so the market could expand...Oh well.. Once again KUDOS!!
Heretic 2 approved for distribution : Comment 2 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 22-May-2000 22:00 GMT
The exact reasons of such a better performance (200MHz vs 400MHz...) would interest me more, (besides windos itself). Ben?
Heretic 2 approved for distribution : Comment 3 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by sutro on 22-May-2000 22:00 GMT
I didn`t see that performance in the demo. You can say that
cybervisionPPC sucks (versus a Banshee card) but wipeout was very
smooth ...
Oh , well ... we 'll have to beg metabox a bit harder .
sutro
Heretic 2 approved for distribution : Comment 15 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Mark Olsen on 23-May-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Carl Mohlin):
The 3Dlabs homepage says something like the speed of the TNT2.
Heretic 2 approved for distribution : Comment 14 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Carl Mohlin on 23-May-2000 22:00 GMT
How much faster is the Permedia3 which is said will be on the cards replacing the current Permedia2-cards?
Heretic 2 approved for distribution : Comment 12 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by MagicSN on 23-May-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Nick Lamburn):
In Lowres at least (and depending on CPU, maybe 400x300) it should run okay
even on a 2D-only card like the Pixel64. But of course it will run MUCH smoother
and look MUCH nicer on the 3D Card.
Steffen
Heretic 2 approved for distribution : Comment 13 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Remco Komduur on 23-May-2000 22:00 GMT
Well congratulations to you Ben, the Frieden brothers and everyone else at Hyperion software. I hope to play Heretic 2 really soon. I will be supporting you all the way. Up to now you haven't a single game in your release schedule I don't want to buy.
I really really really really hope that these titles will make a new graphic card coming for the current PPC cards even sooner. Remember software sells hardware. We now have the software.
Best wishes
Remco
Heretic 2 approved for distribution : Comment 10 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Nick Lamburn on 23-May-2000 22:00 GMT
I'm really glad Heretic II is now soon to be available - this was one of the reasons I got a Blizzard PPC card; now all I need to a BVision card since ,y Pixel64 won't really be up to the task! :-)
Heretic 2 approved for distribution : Comment 11 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Cartman on 23-May-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Thomas Frieden):
But then, the K6-2's FPU sucks arse... I'm not at all surprised that the 604e beats it... I don't know if if Shogo is 3DNow! optimized, but by the looks of it, probably not.
Heretic 2 approved for distribution : Comment 7 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Andrew Korn on 23-May-2000 22:00 GMT
It's great news that Heretic II is finally approved for public consumption. H2 is a fantastically atmospheric game, a lot of fun and a very impressive port.
For those of you who don't read the magazine, Heretic II is the first product rated highly enough to get an "Editor's choice" award from Amiga Active. As the reviewer's summary said: "Immense. Demanding. Gorgeous. Spellbinding. Buy it."
Heretic 2 approved for distribution : Comment 8 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by MORB on 23-May-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Michael Flaherty):
Heretic II also has lightmaps, and wipeout doesn't. I think lightmaps are a real pain on the PermediaII because it doesn't does multitexturing.
--
Antoine 'MORB' Chavasse / CdBS Software
Heretic 2 approved for distribution : Comment 9 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Paul Laycock on 23-May-2000 22:00 GMT
And now that my BlizzardVision had arrived (finally!) it'll go on my purchase list too.
Heretic 2 approved for distribution : Comment 5 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Thomas Frieden on 23-May-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Thomas Frieden):
Hi,
(blush) Please ignore everything after "Regards, Thomas".
Regards, Thomas
Heretic 2 approved for distribution : Comment 6 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Michael Flaherty on 23-May-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (sutro):
I spent quite some time on the Hyperion stand @ A2k (Hi lads!), and
Herectic II remained playable even when they ran a movie from the
same computer on a second monitor, so if you're having performance
difficulties, I don't think it's the code...
Herectic II also has a higher polygon count than wipEout 2097, which is why
it demands more from the hardware (the Quake II engine probably wasn't written
with Amigas and Permedia2 chips in mind...)
Michael Flaherty
Digital Images
Heretic 2 approved for distribution : Comment 4 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Thomas Frieden on 23-May-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (sutro):
Hi,
Here's how this test was performed: According to Ravensoft's web page,
they played through level one. At the start of the level, they used the
cheat to bring up all weapons, and fired each weapon/spell. Then, they
swam through the harbour water, climbed out, and played through the first
level.
We did the same test, and our result was about 18 fps, while the PC version
got 16 fps. It's a bit faster, and it shows that for the Pentium, the
Permedia 2 was the bottleneck. As my PPC Amiga (a 200 MHz 604e) outperforms
the PC version (K6/2 400 MHz) of Shogo (both using software rendering),
by about 1 - 2 fps (depending on scene complexity), the Permedia 2 seems
to slow down the Amiga version as well.
Regards, Thomas
you can also
Heretic 2 approved for distribution : Comment 16 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Sinan Gurkan on 24-May-2000 22:00 GMT
Hi
Well done Hyperion :)
Veselia and KDH shops announced that release date is June 5th 2000 for Heretic2.
Is this true ?
Thanks
Heretic 2 approved for distribution : Comment 17 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Hermans/Hyperion on 24-May-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Mark Olsen):
No, the Permedia 3 is "only" 6 times faster than the Permedia 2 which put its slightly above Riva TNT performance. Not TNT2 mind you but it would still be an enormous step up.
Heretic 2 approved for distribution : Comment 18 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Sinan Gurkan on 24-May-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
Are there REALLY plans for a Permedia3 BVision ?
Heretic 2 approved for distribution : Comment 19 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Cartman on 24-May-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Sinan Gurkan):
I sure hope so, because I won't settle for something like the Permedia2, it's just too crappy. The Permedia3 isn't exactly state-of-the-art if it performs at the same level as a TNT1 , but I suppose it'll have do for now. (So we at least can play games in 640x480 or 800x600 with a decent framerate).
Heretic 2 approved for distribution : Comment 20 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Remco Komduur on 24-May-2000 22:00 GMT
The Permedia 3 is probably the easiest for them to use at the moment because it should be somewhat like the Permedia 2. Question is, are the important hardware features available on the Permedia 3 that weren't on the Permedia 2.
I hope that one way or another it will once be technically and commercially possible to use a GeForce. It should drop in price now the GeForce 2 is available.
The basic idea is the same behind the GeForce as was with AGA. Let the graphics processor do the work not the main processor. NVidia call the GeForce a GPU(Graphics Processing Unit).
Remco
Heretic 2 approved for distribution : Comment 21 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 24-May-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Remco Komduur):
"The Permedia 3 is probably the easiest for them to use at the moment because it should be somewhat like the Permedia 2."
I've heard these has almost similar HW interfaces, maybe the '3' can be put on the place for a '2'. But probably it needs a new SW-driver.
Heretic 2 approved for distribution : Comment 22 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Tony Gore on 25-May-2000 22:00 GMT
A Voodoo 3 or Savage 2000 would do nicely too. But if they could do the GeForce, it would rock!
Heretic 2 approved for distribution : Comment 23 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by MagicSN on 25-May-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Remco Komduur):
Hi!
The Permedia 3 does not have the "missing-Blending-Modes-problem" of the
Permedia 2. I don't know how hard it would be to modify the CV/PPC
or BV/PPC to use a Permedia 3 instead of a Permedia 2 though.
Steffen Haeuser
Heretic 2 approved for distribution : Comment 24 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Johan Rönnblom on 25-May-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (MagicSN):
I would really appreciate it if the Warp#? people started adding
useful error messages instead of simply crashing as soon as something
is not what was expected. In this case, I couldn't get the Heretic2
demo to work with 3d hw support because the version of warp3d I had
installed was too old. For sure this can be solved by reading the
provided readme carefully, but.. this is imo not amiga-like at all.
Well, maybe this is just my experience, but this seems to be the case
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