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[News] Amiga mentioned by BBC :)ANN.lu
Posted on 23-May-2000 20:19 GMT by Christian Kemp11 comments
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Loz Davies writes: Amiga gets a mention as a cut-down web server on the BBC news web pages. Read the full article, or just the relevant quote: A Dutch company is making web servers using old Commodore 64 computers that were popular in the mid-1980s. Several web servers are run off old Amiga computers and there is even a project to turn hand held computers such as the Palm into low volume web servers. Not very spectacular, admittedly, but for some odd reason the article made me grin, sarcastically.
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Posted by buzz on 22-May-2000 22:00 GMT
oh.. and as for amiga+amigaos hosted websites
my fave has to be cheezy :)
http://a5oo.nvg.org/
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Posted by buzz on 22-May-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Malibann):
rather than that slipdemo link a better link (from same site)
is http://www.heilbronn.netsurf.de/~dallmann/lunix/lng.html
which is a link to Lunix NG (LNG). an operating
system for c64 supporting (cut from page)
Preemptive multitasking (up to 32 tasks, 7 priorities)
Dynamic memory management (in chunks of 256 or 32 bytes)
Runtime code relocation
IPC (inter process communication) through pipes
IPC through signals
(minimal) REU support
SCPU compatible
Hardware stack swapping (C128 only)
256K RAM C128 compatible
30 standard applications available
Support for standard RS232 userport interface
Support for swiftlink RS232 interface
Virtual consoles
Hardware accelerated 80 columns console on C128 in C64 mode
Native C128 version available
(simple) command shell (with history function)
Support for CBM (IEC bus) devices (e.g. 1541)
Open source, comes with all needed (cross-) development tools
Widely configurable for your needs
LNG can be terminal and terminal server (RS232)
Support for SLIP packet encapsulation over serial links
Support for PPP (packet encapsulation) over serial links
Loop back packet driver for off-line client-server trials
TCP/IP stack (and clients for telnet and ftp)
and more.. I plan to build a rs232 port
for my c64 soon and then i can get my 64 online :)
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Posted by Victor on 22-May-2000 22:00 GMT
That isn't as good that the Amiga is related here with quite a low-performance computers...
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Posted by Malibann on 22-May-2000 22:00 GMT
AFAIK The WEBIT is a LowCost PC witha builin C64 Emulator.
Biut if someone is interested in an TCP/IP SLIP Stack for a C64
look here:
SLIP:
http://www.heilbronn.netsurf.de/~dallmann/slipdemo.html
C64 Multitasking OS with Internet Support:
http://www.6502.org/users/andre/osa/index.html
regards Malibann
Amiga mentioned by BBC :) : Comment 5 of 11ANN.lu
Posted by SirRUSH on 23-May-2000 22:00 GMT
Wow! It's AMAZING how well the OLD AMIGA works still. It may not kick everyones
butt with browsing the Web but it sure does with tasks that were made well. And,
OHHHH...it multitasks & doesn't thrash harddrives. Of course, it's OS is old, too,
but is very stable. There's a clown suit that's so popular but it's makers wish
it were as Cool.
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Posted by Ben on 24-May-2000 22:00 GMT
Woah! The BBC site has been hoaxed with a load of stories, this one is included I think (even though there may be some truth to the technical side), there was also a story about a potato powered web-server...
;)
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Posted by Dirk Baeyens on 24-May-2000 22:00 GMT
Maybe AMIE on patatos. :)
Amiga mentioned by BBC :) : Comment 8 of 11ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 24-May-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Slim):
"...and probably never will 'cause Mick Tinker is a moron."
The BoXeR is just one "short-term also" option... If you don't follow the situation in Amiga-world, don't speak too much. (I mean AMIE.) BTW, also short-term, if you have and old Amiga yet, you can buy a PPC + 3D-GFX card now, hopefully a G3 + a more decent 3D-GFX card soon, (also to run AMIE later). (But if you still want to support M$ then just go that way...)
Amiga mentioned by BBC :) : Comment 6 of 11ANN.lu
Posted by Slim on 24-May-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (SirRUSH):
Wow! It's AMAZING how well the OLD AMIGA works still. It may not kick everyones
butt with browsing the Web but it sure does with tasks that were made well. And,
OHHHH...it multitasks & doesn't thrash harddrives. Of course, it's OS is old, too,
but is very stable. There's a clown suit that's so popular but it's makers wish
it were as Cool.
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Decoding jpegs on a 030 25MHz A3000 is painfully slow sometimes. I can pick up a nice pc with 56K modem, 6 gig hd, decent video (i.e. 3d), and sound card, 64 MB ram for around 1 grand. A comparable Amiga does not exist, and probably never will 'cause Mick Tinker is a moron. My 100 MHz Pentium does not thrash its hard drive. Give the machine enough memory, and it'll run fine. Sure, the Amiga is better, more efficient, blah blah blah, but tell me where I can pick up a nice speedy *new* Amiga with access to inexpensive expansion options and I will swallow my words.
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Posted by Anonymous on 25-May-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Slim):
"...the BoXeR is supposed to be an Amiga *Classic* Compatible right?"
OK, it's compatible, but really superior to the old one. With a PPC it can be a decent computer.
"As for AMIE, it ain't out yet. It doesn't exist yet. When it does come out, it'll probably come with a whole bunch of bloat and speed penalties."
I would say 'maybe', instead of 'probably'. But it isn't like WinDOS, won't coded/built like that.
"...but nobody here not under NDA (i.e. average Amiga user) knows how well that stuff will work for traditional apps."
No reason to work like those big bloaty WinDOS apps, won't coded/built like those. And this load-time 'conversion' shouldn't affect it that much.
"BoXeR does not exist."
It do exist in prototype form, at least.
"Plus, when the BoXeR does get released (if ever), it'll provbably have a lot of compatibility problems to all the software we love (i.e. games that bang the hardware). So, keep on dreaming guys.
They said it maybe won't 100.00% at first, but they will continuously improve it.
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Posted by Slim on 25-May-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Anonymous):
If you don't follow the situation in Amiga-world, don't speak too much. (I mean AMIE.) BTW, also short-term, if you have and old Amiga yet, you can buy a PPC + 3D-GFX card now, hopefully a G3 + a more decent 3D-GFX card soon, (also to run AMIE later). (But if you still want to support M$ then just go that way...)
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Hey buddy, I'm right in here with the rest of you. I've read all the Amiga INC press releases. I've visited the Tao site. I was speaking of the classic line and the BoXeR is supposed to be an Amiga *Classic* Compatible right?
As for AMIE, it ain't out yet. It doesn't exist yet. When it does come out, it'll probably come with a whole bunch of bloat and speed penalties. In my opinion, Tao is the one with the good idea (Tao VP stuff), but nobody here not under NDA (i.e. average Amiga user) knows how well that stuff will work for traditional apps.
BoXeR does not exist. AMIE does not exist. When they will, who knows. Plus, when the BoXeR does get released (if ever), it'll provbably have a lot of compatibility problems to all the software we love (i.e. games that bang the hardware). So, keep on dreaming guys.
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