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[News] May 2000 Amiga WorldANN.lu
Posted on 05-Jun-2000 09:51 GMT by Christian Kemp9 comments
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The May 2000 Amiga World introduces the Amiga Foundation Layer, Amiga's Vice President of Operations Vince Pfeifer, and a slew of new games from Amiga developer Hyperion. Normally, I'm not the one to complain about the tool used to generate a web page, but Microsoft Word?...
May 2000 Amiga World : Comment 1 of 9ANN.lu
Posted by colin wilson on 04-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
LOL... that`s low... that`s VERY low...
May 2000 Amiga World : Comment 2 of 9ANN.lu
Posted by Mark Olsen on 04-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
It's not only low. It's unforgivable. Bunch of lamers. WAKE UP!
May 2000 Amiga World : Comment 3 of 9ANN.lu
Posted by Yuca on 04-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
Apart from teh terrible design of the page. Switch on the tables in the source and you will fall off your chair...
May 2000 Amiga World : Comment 5 of 9ANN.lu
Posted by Martin Tilsted on 05-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
Well an interesting quote from the text:
"We at Amiga feel that memory protection is an overhead that punishes good code because bad code exists, and this is an attitude that is becoming increasingly prevalent. Indeed, the classic Amiga lasted for 15 years without any memory protection at all and has been praised as one of the most stable systems ever created, a credit to both the system and the developers themselves."
Does this mean that any non-java program can write to the code of the operation system????
And as for amiga being stable, try using some beta-version of ibrowse -:))
Martin Tilsted.
May 2000 Amiga World : Comment 6 of 9ANN.lu
Posted by colin wilson on 05-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Martin Tilsted):
Funnily enough, I get almost as many problems using the latest version of IE5.01, where a page will either return as non-existant, or parts (especially gfx) will refuse to load, and yoy have to manually "show picture" over the page...
It`s also so unbelievably slow compared to a bare installation of IE4 I saw on someone elses` machine recently, that it`s hard to imagine how it got so bad during the "upgrade"
May 2000 Amiga World : Comment 4 of 9ANN.lu
Posted by Teemu I. Yliselä on 05-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
They should seriously think of getting someone who actually knows HTML to work on Amiga World. I'm sure there's a lot of people in the community who'd be happy to do this free of charge.
May 2000 Amiga World : Comment 7 of 9ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 06-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
The idea that memory protection hides bad programming is utter twaddle I'm afraid. If anything memory protection highlights bad programming as it forces a bus error/enforcer hit/or whatever - not having memory protection simply lets the errant program dance naked through unitialized memory, which may not be a problem on the developers machine, but is very much a problem on the users machine.
May 2000 Amiga World : Comment 9 of 9ANN.lu
Posted by Martin Tilsted on 07-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Joe "Floid" Kanowitz):
But protection in software wil be slower then protection in hardware. And when all modern processors have a mmu why not use. Not having memmory protection make message-parsing and task switch faster, but i still think the end result using software protection wil be slower applications.
But my main problem is security. If any user can use a program written in C to patch the kernel how can the system be secure?.
May 2000 Amiga World : Comment 8 of 9ANN.lu
Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 07-Jun-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Anonymous):
I've bothered Fleecy in email on the subject, and there really isn't much new to report on the subject except that part of Amiga's goal is to try to wean people off of C and onto more modern platforms, like Java, where protection is performed more logically.
As always, Amiga is willing to listen to us, and I've suggested that optional protection may be the way to go. Turn on protection for certain apps, let others have free reign. If some of what I've heard from the rumor mill is right, the real problem is that Tao's product doesn't offer standard protected mode services yet, and we probably don't want to delay an Amiga product launch any longer, right? If that really is the case, this'd mean that protection would have to be implemented at a higher level than it usually is in most OSes, since you'd basically have to run a whole virtual machine without any low level help from the "processor" (in this case, the VP)... if Tao's stuff really is capable, then it really is a question of what the proletariat wants.
So, if you're with me on the matter, make your voice heard... if you demand nothing but protection for all, make your voice heard, and if you don't think it's going to make or break anything, well.. make your voice heard, too.
Maybe we need an ANN poll?
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