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[News] Amiga Inc. releases Amiga authorized developer stationsANN.lu
Posted on 14-Jul-2000 02:02 GMT by Henrik Mikael Kristensen13 comments
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Amiga Inc., Snoqualmie, WA, today announced manufacturing and distribution agreements with Wonder Computers International Inc. in Ottawa, Canada and Software Hut, Inc. in West Chester, PA. These agreements will allow the manufacture of Amiga Authorized Developer Workstations in North America. Read more here.
Amiga Inc. releases Amiga authorized developer stations : Comment 1 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by Colin Wilson on 13-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
At last, some news on *real* machines coming out - even if they are based on proprietry PC hardware - at least that will help keep costs to a minimum !
Amiga Inc. releases Amiga authorized developer stations : Comment 2 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by Joe European on 13-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
Great news!
I just wish they'd announce distributors also for other countries...
or do we Europeans have to order the machine directly from the US?
Amiga Inc. releases Amiga authorized developer stations : Comment 3 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by Michael Jantzen on 13-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Colin Wilson):
Yeah except,
A) there not proprietary
B) it really sounds like you could build one yourself for much cheaper
Amiga Inc. releases Amiga authorized developer stations : Comment 4 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by John Payne on 14-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
The price of convenience (not having to build it yourself).
Anyone seen a platform spec list for the SDK?
Amiga Inc. releases Amiga authorized developer stations : Comment 5 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by amorel on 15-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (John Payne):
"The price of convenience (not having to build it yourself)."
One got to be really stupid if she/he can`t build their own pc.
It is so easy these days.
Never thought Amiga would turn into a generic pc seller though ;-)
Amiga Authorized Developer Workstations
This sounds so stupid i`m almost laughing, if the whole situation wasn`t
kinda sad. I wonder if they soon REQUIRE you to buy that pc, instead of REQUIRING
just an ethernet card(at least any card suiffices ;)
That`d be ubercool. If You`d have to buy their pc along with existing rules like
you have to obey to their liscence, which tells you you have to pay a fee if you
distribute your software for free and last but not least you have to have an ethernet card.
Anyways, get.qnx.com
Amiga Inc. releases Amiga authorized developer stations : Comment 6 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by XDelusion on 15-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
Ughh, whatever. There is a Boing ball on the case then? Hmm spiffy.
I dunno why they chose they old AMD's though, they can not do sound very,
well, nor video, my games and audio programs always tweaked a little when
using an old K6-2.
Amiga Inc. releases Amiga authorized developer stations : Comment 7 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by Chris Roccati on 15-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
I hope their configuration is just a SUGGESTED platform, otherwise
we're going from an obsolescent hardware (the current amiga) to an
hardware that is going to be obsolete by the 4th quarter of this year
(socket 7).
Amiga Inc. releases Amiga authorized developer stations : Comment 8 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by One on 15-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Chris Roccati):
: I hope their configuration is just a SUGGESTED platform, otherwise
: we're going from an obsolescent hardware (the current amiga) to an
: hardware that is going to be obsolete by the 4th quarter of this year
: (socket 7).
This is intentional. The idea is that by developing on a relatively
slow platform, programmers will be more motivated to optimize their
code, so that it will then fly on faster processors.
Also, it is rather logical to offer the cheapest solution, considering
that this machine is targeted to people who don't already have a PC and
wouldn't have any reason to buy one, other than to do Amiga development.
Amiga Inc. releases Amiga authorized developer stations : Comment 9 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by One on 15-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (amorel):
: "The price of convenience (not having to build it yourself)."
:
: One got to be really stupid if she/he can`t build their own pc.
: It is so easy these days.
Not as easy as you make it sound, especially for people who
never did it before. And it takes time, which not everyone
might have. Being able to buy an already-made solution sure
looks like a "convenience" to me.
: Never thought Amiga would turn into a generic pc seller though ;-)
They haven't.
: That`d be ubercool. If You`d have to buy their pc along with existing
: rules like you have to obey to their liscence, which tells you you have
: to pay a fee if you distribute your software for free and last but not
: least you have to have an ethernet card.
Nobody ever said you must pay a fee for distributing free software.
In fact, now you don't even have to pay for distributing shareware.
Please check your facts before posting next time...
Amiga Inc. releases Amiga authorized developer stations : Comment 10 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 15-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Chris Roccati):
Maybe they want to secure that it's only an interim need...? :)
Amiga Inc. releases Amiga authorized developer stations : Comment 11 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by Michael Jantzen on 16-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
I dunno - I mean convienant? Both software hut and Wonder Computers machines the Amiga Dev Kit was optional... You'd think the whole system came pre-installed.
If you want a cheap(er) dev machine and you don't want to build it yourself www.thelinuxstore.com and order a machine with Redhat pre-installed.
I'm really curious what Amiga Inc's cut/royalty is on these systems is. They cost significantly more then the average K6. I could honestly build the same computer for under 500$ (USD). And I could easily build one for 900$ with a monitor (I should note that these "convienant" systems don't seem to come with a screen for 899...)
Amiga Inc. releases Amiga authorized developer stations : Comment 12 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by Coz on 16-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Michael Jantzen):
First: The opinions expressed here are my own and not that of my employer Amiga Inc.
OK... You probably could build it yourself and save a little. The $1200 quoted at Wonder is in Canadian dollars. The US equivalent would be lower I believe. I haven't seen the Software Hut pricing yet as their server was dragging my DSL down to 2400 baud speed. 8^)
Just be sure to match the specced dev unit since there are reasons for it.
1. Simplifying support from AI. We are at ground zero just about for development and we can't support every custom system out there.
2. The AMD/Linux box was specced to be cheap so garage developers would have a chance at getting in on it.
Otherwise there's no real reason not to do it yourself.
Coz
Amiga Inc. releases Amiga authorized developer stations : Comment 13 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by Michael Jantzen on 17-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Coz):
The 899$ price I'm quoting is software huts price without a monitor - I dunno, but in Portland Oregon that same machine is worth about $500-$600 with a 500 MHz K6-2. I believe Canadian to US dollars is about 48% - in that light it would be cheaper to buy the computer from wonder computers...
Another question - is Amiga Inc. providing hardware support for these machines? In relationship to what? The Red Hat OS, or Amiga Dev Kit?
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