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[News] In Response to Community Concerns Posted on MooBunnyANN.lu
Posted on 20-Jul-2000 18:04 GMT by greenboy7 comments
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The regulars who post at the Moo Bunny seem to have precipitated a much-needed clarification from Bill McEwen of Amiga Inc. Among other items of concern, a modification of the royalties policy is to be enacted. Evidently the gross-income-based royalty fees (US$3.00 per package or 10% - whichever is greater) which were to be collected quarterly, are now to be applied to a voluntary certification program which Amiga Inc will administer.

Congrats to Moo Bunny for sticking to convictions, and to Bill McEwen for listening!

In Response to Community Concerns Posted on MooBunny : Comment 1 of 7ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
I don't want to rain on Moo Bunny's parade, but the update said nothing
about altering anything. The way I read it, it was clarification of what
had already been stated. The desktop market has always been a concern of
Amiga Inc; lack of memory protection in the SDK never meant that the final
product wouldn't have it; and the legalese was simply misread.
I suppose if you got your head out of QNXs arse for a couple of minutes you
would have heard of all this when it was originally stated.
In Response to Community Concerns Posted on MooBunny : Comment 2 of 7ANN.lu
Posted by Ed on 19-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Anonymous):
Yes, developer folks (with amazing PSYCHIC POWERS) were supposed to figure out
that reading the actual shipped SDK LICENSE files was to be shunned, because
Amiga Inc. shipped a misworded license agreement statement in their SDK,
because Amiga Inc. had a misunderstanding regarding the legalese it produced
and included. We're also glad to see that Amiga Inc. is committed to the
desktop, but has yet not included the necessities for such in their SDK, nor
announced anyone who has committed to shipping a "desktop computer" with a
non-hosted Ami environment. We all know that Ami will run on Linux desktops
today and Windows desktop platforms soon.
-Ed
In Response to Community Concerns Posted on MooBunny : Comment 3 of 7ANN.lu
Posted by Parody, y'see on 19-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Anonymous):
Fortunately, noble, brave, stand-up-and-heckle-from-the-back-of-the-room Mr. Anonymous has put those silly MooBunniers right on their misconceptions. How could they have been so blind? Well, the scales will certainly have fallen from their eyes now, I should coco! What clarity! What perspicacity! What bollocks.
Thinks : why doesn't everyone write anonymously? It certainly adds weight to any argument, and just seems to imbue the writer with greater authority and credibility, and dang-nabbit, downright good common sense!
Hey! I've just had an idea...
In Response to Community Concerns Posted on MooBunny : Comment 4 of 7ANN.lu
Posted by Bill McEwen on 19-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
I want to appologize for the length of time it took to clarify these very important issues.
I should have posted something immediately to everyone, instead I was answering e-mails directly to people who asked as opposed to making the answers public.
I will do a better job of clearing things up sooner rather than later.
Thank you again for all of your continued support.
All the best,
Bill McEwen
In Response to Community Concerns Posted on MooBunny : Comment 5 of 7ANN.lu
Posted by John Block on 19-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Bill McEwen):
Bill, you mentioned more power on the drawing board. It would be good
if the AmigaOne was upgradable so we can take advantage of the
improvements.
If you want to get wacky, offer us a subscription costing us each a
few hundred dollars a year, where new AmigaOne "lego bricks" are
posted to us as they come out, keeping our machines constantly
cutting edge.
In Response to Community Concerns Posted on MooBunny : Comment 6 of 7ANN.lu
Posted by greenboy on 20-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Anonymous):
|I don't want to rain on Moo Bunny's parade
Sure you do. That's why you took the coward's way out and tried to avoid responsibility for your statements by going anonymous. One might note that Bill titled his update, "In Response to Community Concerns Posted on MooBunny"...
|the update said nothing about altering anything. The way I read it, it was clarification of what had already been stated.
You evidently have not read - or perhaps did not understand either the license agreement on the CD or what Bill's new statement says. There is a huge difference between 10% royalties on gross, and a *voluntary* certification program. Notice, first, the difference between these words:
R - O - Y - A - L - T - Y   (compulsory)
C - E - R - T - I - F - I - C - A - T - I - O - N   (voluntary)
Whew. Hardly the same word, and hardly the same concept. Now go back and read what Bill has said. Please. For your own benefit you should attempt to understand what concepts are being presented and how they can affect developers.
|The desktop market has always been a concern of Amiga Inc;
The news item I posted here did not refute that. It did not in fact even mention that point. And why would it. I've been talking to Bill for longer than you know. Like before attempts to buy Amiga from Gateway were in progress. I have an idea of what Bill and fleecy want to do.
|lack of memory protection in the SDK never meant that the final product wouldn't have it
Repeat: The news item posted here did not refute that. It did not in fact even mention that point.
But since you brought it up... lack of memory protection in the SDK never meant the final product *would* have it either. Earlier statements from key Amiga personnel strongly indicated that there would be *no* Memory Protection. But a great many developers have pleaded for MP of some type ever since that missive. And as more feedback came in, Amiga reconsidered.
I view it likely that Amiga have wanted MP really bad. But architecturally speaking it might require major work by Tao to make it so. It takes time to figure out Who What and How when you talk about something as integral as MP as it tends to be designed in good systems. And now, we have an official statement proclaiming that MP is in the cards, when before we had not.
|and the legalese was simply misread.
I think we have already covered that. Perhaps your anonymous status here indicates insecurity in your statements. Rightly so, because you could hardly be more wrong - nix that - seeing how you react below, perhaps you could ; } Anyway, Bill says:
"the End User Licence Agreement that made it into the SDK -IS IN ERROR- as a result of a legal misinterpretation." (emphasis mine)
|suppose if you got your head out of QNXs arse for a couple of minutes you would have heard of all this when it was originally stated.
You are to be pitied. I understand a great deal what QNX and Amiga have to offer, and pay attention to what both have to say. You, on the other hand, seem to understand neither. And have shown either a poor attention span or a small heart.
In Response to Community Concerns Posted on MooBunny : Comment 7 of 7ANN.lu
Posted by Blue with violet polka dots boy on 20-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
Greenboy said:
"I've been talking to Bill for longer than you know."
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