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Posted on 30-Jul-2000 05:19 GMT by Teemu I. Yliselä59 comments
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The following news tidbits are coming straight from the mouth of Bill McEwen, courtesy of UGN's live audio feed from the show:

The AmigaOne is currently targeted at a December (this year, I should add) release. It's based on Amiga's own customized motherboard design, using off-the-shelf parts. Amiga are putting up a hardware division, lead by Dean Brown, to create custom hardware designs for various devices that will be then offered to 3rd parties to manufacture.

The SDK is selling better than forecasted. Amiga have been in contact with numerous major consumer electronics and software companies, including (straight quote) "every major gaming company out there". Many of these already possess the SDK. Interest from major companies particularly picked up after Bill's two recent TV appearances.

A version of the SDK for Windows will be made available next month.

Red Hat will start selling the SDK next week. Also Sun have started using Amiga software to demo Java stuff.

There are going to be public beta releases of the OE prior to release.

There is going to be an Amiga IPO.

Paul Nolan is now doing contract work for Amiga.

More on the license issues: No software developers will be forced to pay royalties. Voluntarily, they can sign up for a certification program, which will give their products an official Amiga "badge" and the chance to have their product marketed by Amiga themselves. This will cost them $1.50 per sold item.

Amiga will start offering low-cost promotional merchandise to user groups.

At the show, Amiga were showing off an ARM-based touchscreen unit, running the new OE. The design is by none other than Mick Tinker, and it's not being sold commercially yet.

Backwards compatibility to the Classic Amiga from the new OE will be dealt with by something that "is not an emulator".

Amiwest news : Comment 1 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by Teemu I. Yliselä on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
Now I can't guarantee 100% accuracy with these news items as I wasn't able to record the audio stream anywhere, so this is all based on the notes I made when listening to it live, but it should be just about right. UGN should be offering downloadable audio sometime soon.
Amiwest news : Comment 2 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by Carl Mohlin on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Teemu I. Yliselä):
This is great! Any more info, like Boxer release-date? =)
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Posted by Leon r. Tan on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
This is probably one of these days that you wake up, immediately turn
on your amiga and read all the news, run downstairs to have breakfast
and everyone asks what has happened and why you have tears in your
eyes and you're laughing in a strange way. Then you say: 'I am just
happy, that's all'... and afterwards they call 911 in the
backroom.
Amiwest news : Comment 4 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by Carl Mohlin on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Leon r. Tan):
ROTFL. That was fun. Did you know that? =)
Amiwest news : Comment 5 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by Richard Sold on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
This is very good news. It seems there are actually happening things behind the scene. For a very long time I have been sceptical or rather being afraid of hoping too much but for every new item of news that is released things looks brighter all the time. I listened to the live interview with Bill and also asked him a few questions. If they had scheduled any marketing plans for the new AmigaOne outside of the Amiga community and Bill simply said: Yes! also what they have ported/taken from the classic Amiga OS includes: libraries, classes, datatypes and more.
That they have been in contact with every major gaming house and that several already have shown interest in SDK and a few even have got hold of them is also very promising.
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Posted by Mart on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
I've got just one thing to say.....
WHEEEEEEHOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I certainly hope this item is acurate, and that Amiga can manage all this....
But what is Paul doing....... ?
Mart
Amiwest news : Comment 7 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by Kay Are Ulvestad on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
These are just the kind of morning news which can make a guys day. I've been waiting for something like this to happen for years. Hard to believe it is actually happening, but I don't see why Bill should be lying either. Way to go Amiga!
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Posted by Paul Heams on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
Come On Amiga!
Well this news is some of the best I've heard in a long time. As Bill said
a few months ago (something along the lines of) - "Things will begin to quicken
in pace". He was certainly right - there has been so much news lately and so
much positive news at that!
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Posted by Torsten on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
I'm happy. :-)
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Posted by Anonymous on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Kay Are Ulvestad):
There _are_ reasons to lie... The IPO :-)
Well, but I don't think so... After all, they just ain't IWin.. :)
Amiwest news : Comment 11 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by Spudley on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
Woo-hoo! :-)
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Posted by Chris Roccati on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
| Amiga have been in contact with numerous major consumer electronics and
| software companies, including (straight quote) "every major gaming
| company out there". Many of these already possess the SDK.
Yeah! Everybody is going to write his next 3D fps game in java. As if
ID software buying a SDK directly means that Quake4 will run on
AMIE...
| Also Sun have started using Amiga software to demo Java stuff.
Sure! By the end of the year, sun will put in end of life their own
JVM and start marketing Amiga product. By 2002 SUN will be a fully
owned sussidiary of Amiga, Inc.
Comeon! There's still no mention of the Amiga "partnership" with sun
anywhere but Amiga Inc site. The same for the partnership with Matrox.
Amiwest news : Comment 13 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by Björn Hagström on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Chris Roccati):
! Yeah! Everybody is going to write his next 3D fps game in java. As if
! ID software buying a SDK directly means that Quake4 will run on
! AMIE...
Java ? What are you talking about ?
/Björn
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Posted by Mart on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
sorry, but can anyone tell me what an 'IPO' is ?
Mart
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Posted by NEO on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
About that Matrox situation. I have been in contact with them and asked the´m why there ain't a pressrelease at their site. I have got some answers but no good answers. So i'm waiting for an answer from one of the "bosses" at Matrox. I will return when i have got it!
Otherwise... All good news! Except one thing... Custom hardware... =/ Eeeekk..:!
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Posted by Mart on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (NEO):
As far as I understand, They will design custom BOARDS, NO CHIPS or something !
So The hardware could be better than mainstream, but NOT too expensive.
And everyone is still free to choose other hardware, you know Amiga OE runs on EVERYTHING :)
Mart
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Posted by Chris Roccati on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Mart):
| sorry, but can anyone tell me what an 'IPO' is ?
IPO means Initial Public Offer, it is the operation performed by a
privately held company to become a publicly traded one; The company
sets a base price and a base number for its future stock and makes the
price public: if all the offered stocks get sold the IPO succeeds and
the company becomes publicly traded (that is you can buy/sell stocks
in public exchanges like NASDAQ).
The methodology described is based on how it happens in Italy, but I
suppose it works more or less the same everywhere -- anyway the
essence is the same: the company offers its stocks to be publically
traded.
Amiwest news : Comment 18 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by Tony Gore on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Mart):
IPOInitial Public Offering
Allowing stocks to be purchased and traded on stock exchange, as I understand it. Anyone feel free to correct me on this if I am wrong.
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Posted by Chris Roccati on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Björn Hagström):
| | Yeah! Everybody is going to write his next 3D fps game in java.
| Java ? What are you talking about ?
Isn't the JTE java engine the fastest JVM in the world? Besides, do
you think that someone is going to program in VP assembler?
Amiwest news : Comment 20 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by Johan Rönnblom on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Chris Roccati):
Chris Roccati wrote:
: Isn't the JTE java engine the fastest JVM in the world?
Arguably, at least it's fast. What does that have to do with anything?
: Besides, do you think that someone is going to program in VP
: assembler?
Why not? Assembler is not particularly difficult, especially if you
already know a few of them. The bulk of the code will of course be
written in C.
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Posted by Muffin on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
YES!!!!
this is a happy day with a hangover,tears and a big smile
and my girlfriend dont know what the fuss is all aboute
Amiwest news : Comment 22 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by Paolo "Mod3m" D'Urso on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
These are really great news! I'm sure many developers will be interested to produce software on the new Amiga!
And the news about custom hardware is even better =) I'm happy that the new AmigaOS can run on any kind of hardware,
but I'd like to see already assembled computers, like the AmigaOne, in the shops ;)
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Posted by Anonymous on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
..."is not an emulator"
Maybe they will use Mick's chips, too?
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Posted by Len Carsner on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Mart):
Didn't Paul announce a version of Photogenics for Linux?
Maybe his work has something to do with this? Like making sure it is a
100% ready-for-launch-date application?
Ladies and Gentlemen, our wait may be coming to an end. While I'm sure
there are those who will find something to whine about in these announcements,
we should all be excited that Amiga Inc. is moving forward at great speed. Can
you imagine what we are in for by the fourth quarter of this year? We could
have an AMIGA CHRISTMAS!! (Something we never had during the Commodore years).
Let's keep the faith, and keep your interest up.
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Posted by Leon r. Tan on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Anonymous):
I bet it's just the IntelOutside card that Mick was working on but now
it has been put on hold while he's still working on the BoXer.
I am sure the 68K/PPC emulation was too difficult to create so they
are going to use an 'Amiga on a PCI-card'; that's the only way, no
emulation is used, what do you think?
Amiwest news : Comment 26 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by Kojak on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
Although this is really great news and I am smiling, but I won't cheer unless I see a working PCB of the AmigaOne =)...
Amiwest news : Comment 27 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by Teemu I. Yliselä on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Chris Roccati):
"Yeah! Everybody is going to write his next 3D fps game in java.
As if
ID software buying a SDK directly means that Quake4 will run on
AMIE..."
Who said it will? Besides, who's forcing anyone to write in Java? C/C++ and VPasm are just as usable on the OE.
I should probably point out that even though Amiga's in talks with many companies, few commitments have been made because the current version of the SDK doesn't really allow for full scale commercial application development.
"Sure! By the end of the year, sun will put in end of life their own
JVM and start marketing Amiga product. By 2002 SUN will be a
fully
owned sussidiary of Amiga, Inc."
This part didn't actually become completely clear to me, whether Sun are using soecificly Amiga's stuff or just Tao's (like the Mot Java phone).
"Comeon! There's still no mention of the Amiga "partnership" with
sun
anywhere but Amiga Inc site. The same for the partnership with
Matrox."
Have you any reason to believe these partnerships weren't for real?
Amiwest news : Comment 28 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by Teemu I. Yliselä on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Mart):
Yes, custom boards with off-the-shelf parts. The point is to use whatever hw best fits the purpose.
Amiwest news : Comment 29 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by Teemu I. Yliselä on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Carl Mohlin):
Well, Joe Torre dropped by at the live chat. I didn't catch all of it, but I don't think he mentioned any dates. I don't think they actually had a working board to show there either (someone correct me if I'm wrong). If I understood correctly, there are now 3 people working on the BoXeR - Mick, Joe and a 3rd person whose name escapes me right now.
Amiwest news : Comment 30 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by Teemu I. Yliselä on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Leon r. Tan):
It'll be a software-only solution, no doubt. It's dubbed the "Amiga emulation layer". Something along the lines of WINE probably isn't too far-fetched.
Amiwest news : Comment 31 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by Teemu I. Yliselä on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Len Carsner):
Paul's working on something that has to do with graphics. That's all Bill agreed to say.
Amiwest news : Comment 32 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Leon r. Tan):
|I bet it's just the IntelOutside card that Mick was working on but now
|it has been put on hold while he's still working on the BoXer.
This card uses the old AGA chips... Only in limited supply. And not so cheap.
My guesses: 1. This card but with the new integrated chip. Or 2. Integrating Mick's AGA-emulation logic into the glue-logic of the AOne. Maybe 3. Only OS-level 'emulation': calls-redirection. Who knows?
|I am sure the 68K/PPC emulation was too difficult to create so they
|are going to use an 'Amiga on a PCI-card'; that's the only way, no
|emulation is used, what do you think?
At least, 68K emu. is there in UAE yet. But there is no proper AGA emulation in that, and what's there is too slow.
Amiwest news : Comment 33 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Leon r. Tan):
|I bet it's just the IntelOutside card that Mick was working on but now
|it has been put on hold while he's still working on the BoXer.
Maybe you mean the InsideOut/Siamese PCI card? :)
Amiwest news : Comment 34 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by Mart on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
Wouldn't it be great if the classic Amiga was supported transparantly in the new OE ....
Like you just click and run an 'classic' program on the new OE like it was a native one....
And the 'emulation' or what-ever was carried out without the notice of the user....
And the 'classic' apliction could share every thing with the new OE's apps....
Dreamin' Mart.....
Amiwest news : Comment 35 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by XDelusion on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
Hmm no cussing hugh? Ok, I'll try... :O)
Wow, I am very impressed, this is definatly looking to be news!
I hope none of what I am reading about is over exagerated, though
I do doubt the part about the game developers, since the SDK does
not support 3D and Sound as of yet??!!??
As for not using Emulation, that is great, UAE really stinks, I mean
come on, who wants to have a flakey virtual 020 Amiga!? Not I, or
at least when I run it, I don't take it seriously, it is more for phun.
Amiga One!?!? Well the custom board sounds divine, I hope they just
keep clear of BIOS, and do like Apple did, and Bind the IRQ's to the slots
or something, so we can just plug in and go like with the classic Amiga, also
this new mother board should be stabel enough to expect a life span of 15 or more years, hence the classic Amiga and Atari.
I was wondering though, if Amiga can run simutainously (or however you spell that) on a PPC as well as a x86, then isn't not possible to build the Amiga One
so that it could also handle a x86 plus PPC based OS as well? Just in case Amiga
OS should faulter, this in itself would open up new doors would it not?
P.S. Any support for Be in the near future?
Amiwest news : Comment 36 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by Jofre Furtado on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
You know what I think? I think that the Amiga's concept is beyond our dreams and wildest imaginations and I think that they are going in the right direction-
but the Amiga, as a computer, for enthusiasts, if it's built with "off the shelf" parts, that better mean customized chipsets, because if the Amiga is on anything but a Motorola PowerPC CPU (or equivilent) and is on some Pentium/Alpha classed piece of garbage of an x86 board -THEN THE AMIGA IS DEAD. I'm sorry, but I'm sick of using computers that are made to look cheap (Wintel x86's) but are really slow for the money. I can't stand to work on a computer running a processor tyhat's faster than the damned computer itself-that's not technology-that's moving ass backwards.
Be careful, Amiga. The computer is only good if it is DIFFERENT. If it's not and remains an x86 classed machine, then just tell us and give up and let IBM, Compaq, and HP take care of it.
Wouldn't it be funny if an Amiga classic machine running a PowerPC CPU was faster than the AmiVersed x86 machine? I don't think so >:P
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Posted by XDelusion on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
Oh yes...
Back to that Dreamcast thing, if Amiga is running on Dreamcast, then
my question is: When it is released, will it be easy to install on
the DC, and are there any Hard Drive add ons planned for the DC.
Another thing is that I noticed that Midway has written there games for
Windows CE on the Dreamcast, also people have taken these CD's now and hacked
them, and are working on a way to use the Boot section of those CD's to make
MP3 players, VCD players, ect. To run on the DC under Windows CE, now wouldn't it be great if these people simply would just use the Amiga SDK to write these apps to run under Amiga OS instead of Windows CE? I have already heard discussion of CE being a bit limited when it comes to flexability anyhow, so
why isn't this concept of pushing your standard game machine above and beyond its original intent, being endorsed?!
Come on Sega/Amiga/Sony, lets look into this. U could also market the new Amiga OS as a new puter on a CD to the game counsel fans out there!!! :O)
Amiwest news : Comment 38 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 29-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (Jofre Furtado):
If they want to get something out as fast as possible, it makes sense
to use an x86, for the same reasons as in the dev machine.
But that could be just a temporary measure. They can design a new
board with a different processor next year and all the software will
run just the same.
There could be several different computers, all running an Amiga OS,
and each with a different processor.
Amiwest news : Comment 39 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by ESBEN F on 30-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
Does anyone have an URL for some more in depth stuff from AmiWest like IRC logs or first hand impressions of the Bill McE banquat??
esbn
Amiwest news : Comment 40 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by Martin Baute on 30-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (Jofre Furtado):
> if it's built with "off the shelf" parts, that better mean customized
> chipsets, because if the Amiga is on anything but a Motorola PowerPC CPU (or
> equivilent) and is on some Pentium/Alpha classed piece of garbage of an x86
> board -THEN THE AMIGA IS DEAD.
The Alpha is the most powerful CPU unit around when it comes to FP. I wouldn´t call that "garbage". The beauty is it doesn´t need custom assembler like the Altivec. And it´s available with 800 MHz plus.
Apple will do a redesign of the PPC G4, to get around the 450 MHz problem. Problem is, this redesign will make most of the architecture advantages null and void. (Source: c´t, http://www.heise.de)
Many Amigians are obsessed with the PowerPC, but this CPU family is slowly, but irresistably, falling behind. Face it.
> I'm sorry, but I'm sick of using computers that are made to look cheap
> (Wintel x86's) but are really slow for the money.
You will hardly get a better price / perfomance ratio in the desktop area than with x86 CPUs. And there´s more: Many people have to use their computer professionally. And in the next few years, chances are good "professionally" will mean either x86 Linux or Windows. It would be real nice to be able to run these as secondary OS on the AmigaOne, so we wouldn´t have to buy _two_ computers.
> Be careful, Amiga. The computer is only good if it is DIFFERENT.
"Different" can be a feature of the OS alone. The whole x86 architecture is not perfect, but existing PPC systems are not perfect either. I have no problem using "standard" HW if the OS makes good use of the ressources, is stable, easy to use and customise, and doesn´t stand in my way (or crashes). These are feelings shared by many people both from the Windows _and_ the Linux world.
> Wouldn't it be funny if an Amiga classic machine running a PowerPC CPU was
> faster than the AmiVersed x86 machine? I don't think so >:P
Even the AMD K6-2 in the dev boxes should be _at_ _least_ as powerful as the 233 MHz 604e used in the fastes Amigas today. And I still don´t see any G4 accelerators coming.
Amiwest news : Comment 41 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by Teemu I. Yliselä on 30-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (ESBEN F):
Well, IRC logs wouldn't be of much use as all online conferences were done via audio. UGN should have them up as mp3 eventually. They will also have mpeg'd slideshows up with pics from the show.
ugn.amiga.org
Amiwest news : Comment 42 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 30-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Mart):
What makes you think they will design anything else but custom drivers?
Amiwest news : Comment 43 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 30-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Carl Mohlin):
: This is great! Any more info, like Boxer release-date? =)
The Boxer and AmigaOne is propably the same thing. Thats how they will manage to get classic support without emulation. You just run AmigaClassic OS on the Boxer/AmigaOne, and then a hosted version of AmigaNG. How about that?
Amiwest news : Comment 44 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by Henrik Mikael Kristensen on 30-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (Anonymous):
Hmm... then what about Antigravity? What's their role in the grand master plan?
Amiwest news : Comment 45 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by Nils Mokleiv on 30-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (Anonymous):
The Boxer and AmigaOne is propably the same thing. Thats how they will manage to get classic support without emulation. You just run AmigaClassic OS on the Boxer/AmigaOne, and then a hosted version of AmigaNG. How about that?
---
So what you are saying is that if I buy the OE, I won't be able to run my old Amiga apps because the "non emulation" is only available if you buy the AOne box and not if you only buy the OE. Is that so?
Amiwest news : Comment 46 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by Carl Mohlin on 30-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 45 (Nils Mokleiv):
I think that's possible, yes. This means, that you will have to spend lots of money to be able to run Amiga Classic-applications, but if that isn't necessary, you can use a cheap x86-box.
Amiwest news : Comment 47 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by PaulT on 30-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
OK, I was at the show. The comments listed here are substantially as I remember them though I don't have a recording nor a perfect memory (getting worse all the time, maybe I need to up my refresh rate ;)
re: new AmigaBoXeR, all I can say is BWAHAHAHA, I'll have to go over to Mac. If there had been a bOxEr at the show, I'd have thought about getting one; if there was a working prototype, I'd have held off but kept it in mind; if there was a working one with G3/G4 on sale I'd have one right now. But the repeated years of delay and the reported improper treatment of those with deposits paid, coupled with further schedule inaccuracies/delays, are putting it out of the possibles list. There was only a booth with a big sign with someone sitting there as target dummy for those bitching about no Boxer on Saturday. There was nobody in it at all on Sunday. Separate booth for AmigaOnline.Net though that was empty much of the show as well. Joe Torre was at the show for at least part of it though I don't know him so this was only pointed out to me at the end.
{Is it just my imagination, or all ALL powerful Amiga upgrades coincidentally been delayed the same amount? 6oXeR delayed until near end of year; Phase5 goes under, no G4 to appear there; AmiJoe has inexplicable logic error (those guys been doing Mac G3/G4/PCI for some time, how could this have happened?) and will be delayed till at least 4thQuarter 2000; AmigaOne not expected until Q4 2000 or Q1 2001. Could the Bockster folks have shot themselves in the foot any more effectively than waiting until the next gen was actually on the street?}
re: Initial Public Offering, Bill's comments were that he cannot say anything other than it is going to happen, based on Securities Exchange Commission rules (the ruling body of US stock markets). This implies that they are in the mandatory "quiet period" where firms planning to offer may not speak about the offering or their stock publicly. I seem to remember that this quiet period is at least 60 days prior to the IPO....
Re: PPC, IBM has exceeded Apple's speed limit in their latest G3 chips. Who knows which way things will go, though Apple has decided that since their latest OS is supposed to support symmetric multiprocessing (multiple CPU's) that they will increase speed this way. Good luck programmers in taking advantage of this outside of benchmarks! However G4's still competitive with x86 chips that are close to 1 GHz. FWIW the latest generations of x86 may be scorned by others because of their association with Windows machines, but they are still towers of performance compared to anything based on old Motorola 680x0, including AFAIK anything Coldfire-based. The whole point of the next gen Amiga, including AmigaOne, is that it will run on hardware that they can source cheaply. Whether the Classic is run by referencing a new b0><eR based combo chip or by denying that a software abstraction layer is an "emulator" doesn't matter much to me, I surely do want my investment in Classic software to run on a new machine rather than having to keep both handy.
I suspect PNolan is going to have a Photogenics ready to run on the new machine so that they can have one Killer App on hand for the launch!
PaulT reply here, it's more fun!
Amiwest news : Comment 48 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by robtone on 30-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
I just wanted to tell my opinion. But when i was done, and was up to click
"add comment", i asked myself: "does it have any sense, or will i have a new
amiga after this, does anyone _care_ about the amiga?" - i think not.
i will smile again when i can buy "The Revolution" in any store, like in the
beginning; not just amiga stores. I dont have any disadvantage when i use my
040 though. But other might need a cooking CPU just to be the 1st one in the RC5
contest or whatever. I dont need THAT. I want supported standarts.
Amiwest news : Comment 49 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by D Stewart on 30-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
Regarding Matrox.
If the new Amiga is going to use a hybrid
Matrox G400 graphics/video chipset with svideo and other inputs
and outputs, we will have a machine worthy of the Amiga name
and be forward thinking.
Added to the new OS it will be on the leading edge!
Amiwest news : Comment 50 of 59ANN.lu
Posted by Rune Wiggers Ecklon on 30-Jul-2000 22:00 GMT
No, the amiga will not have a g400 card.
It will almost definitely be a g800.
The g400 is already an old and tired card.
Amiga would never use this in a finished product.
It would be like shooting yourself in the food.
Just think x-box, ps2 and even dreamcast. They are all faster than even the fastest pc with a g400.
Well maybe not the dreamcast but I think you get the point.
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