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[News] Ami vs MS .NETANN.lu
Posted on 06-Aug-2000 13:13 GMT by Teemu I. Yliselä12 comments
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Jonathan Clark's posted a comparison between the new Amiga OE and Microsoft's upcoming .NET platform on his homepage here.

Ami vs MS .NET : Comment 1 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by Bob C on 05-Aug-2000 22:00 GMT
I voted twice! I ment to vote <Good> but selected 1 inadvertently so I <revoted> 5. A great article!
Ami vs MS .NET : Comment 2 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 05-Aug-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Bob C):
Just actually full of misconceptions! He claims he were in disscussions with Tao, I wonder how could he has been so mis-informed in several points.
Ami vs MS .NET : Comment 3 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 05-Aug-2000 22:00 GMT
I read on slashdot that M$ pays their lead compiler guy a $2million/year salary! Do you think he copied Amiga's ideas?
Ami vs MS .NET : Comment 4 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 06-Aug-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Anonymous):
Well... The general consensus in the real world is that the MS marketing people ran around one day and told everyone in the company to rename/rework their projects to fit into the ".NET" paradigm. There are some semi-interesting technologies tied to this, C# included, but the whole thing isn't going to look like a real platform (for now) any more than Windows 1.x looked like an OS.
It'd be shortsighted to simply write off all this .NET 'innovation' as going the way of ActiveX (still used a bit, but obscure, and best known for the trouble it causes), but the idea is more to support a subscription model for corporate and SOHO customers- and increase profits- than to revolutionize the way a single user can compute.
The top brass at MS pointed the marketing folk in this direction; Gates is good at watching the market and trying to capitalize on the next big buzzword. However, if you look at the .NET mission statement, it's nothing but buzzwords, and vague ones at that- "communication," "productivity," "crossplatform." It just happens that Amiga Inc. has already architected a system compliant with those words :)
Ami vs MS .NET : Comment 5 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 06-Aug-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Joe "Floid" Kanowitz):
Well this is exactly how it works. Microsoft produces some vapor and
all companies think that .NET will be available soon. So no one is
interested in Elate anymore because there will be a much better
technology... and it won't be from a "small" company but from MS and
it will work together with all standard software, so who cares about
Amiga then? Nobody.
Very simple strategy.
Ami vs MS .NET : Comment 6 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by sutro on 06-Aug-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Anonymous):
:I read on slashdot that M$ pays their lead compiler guy a $2million/year salary! Do you think he copied Amiga's ideas?
No, I would be suprised if he was that clever.
Actually money CAN buy great ideas ...
... but who said M$ wants great ideas ? They are only interested in marketing crap ones
sutro
Ami vs MS .NET : Comment 7 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by Miggy on 07-Aug-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (sutro):
Get your head out of your !@#* and look around you Sutro. Microsoft products are not that bad. If Amiga OS was as widely used as MS stuff, your would probably be bitching about how crap Amiga OS is.
Ami vs MS .NET : Comment 8 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Aug-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Miggy):
Give me a break. Pee Cees suck straw through a gopher hole. I've never had so much trouble with a machine. First the ONE app I bought the thing for refuses to run after installation, then Windoze completely eats itself. I had to format the drive with the Amiga so the Pee Cee could use it again. Yeah, top notch quality there.
Actually, the trouble I've had by itself isn't really that big a deal, but I really know of no one who HASN'T had bizzarre trouble with Windows that most Amiga-only users never knew could even be occur. Sorry, but I've had too many Amigas that never gave me a bit of trouble and too many Pee Cees that have been nothing but.
Ami vs MS .NET : Comment 9 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by sutro on 07-Aug-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Miggy):
You can say that M$ products are BAD and that is an understatement. They are bad as hell.
Exactly which piece of M$ s/w you had in mind ?
Do you believe a word processor that eats 20MB of memory and half the processor time is good ?
Get a life ....
sutro
Ami vs MS .NET : Comment 10 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by the man in the shadows on 07-Aug-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Miggy):
Yup, MS is great now that they finally have some actual power behind them with that 1GHz processor and all. Oh what was that F-4J called in the air-force... Oh yeah! "The flying brick". The theory was, if you put enough power behind something that really wasn't meant to operate at that speed, it will get the job done... I think that Microsoft and co/affiliates/companies ready to be buoght are all a part of the "The flying brick" theory. I have yet to see a truely _stable and effecient_ product that didn't take some "balls-to-the-wall" system. Can I buy some bloatware please!!! I want some bloatware! Who wants bloatware: I do, I do!
Documentary:
"Let's ask this user what he thinks of Microsoft." heads towards computer user with blank stare. "So, what are your opinions on Microsoft products?"
Blank stare. The user blinks and looks up in a daze and without a sound he shrugs his shoulders.
"I see" looking furrowed. "You must be trying out the new Microsoft Reader, let's move on" heading towards the back of the room.
"Excuse me sir, would you be available for a few comments."
"Oh WOW! Are we live? Sure I'll be happy to comment" he bounces.
"What are your comments of the Microsoft Monopoly" I stated but was rudely interuppted.
"I think Microsoft is a great company" he bubbled. "The fact that once I figured out how to pull my head out of my @%# I noticed that everything ran great without my interacting" smiling with a wide cheshire grin. "All of the games installed into some place that I have no clue where but they run great!" "My applications are all a part of the huge operating system that runs on the computer. All that I need to do is just go to 'My Documents' and double click on the project that I was working on, it's easy squeezy."
"Never mind, you've obviously been paid off/brain washed by Microsoft, where's that blank stare kid that we talked with earlier."
Ami vs MS .NET : Comment 11 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Aug-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Miggy):
Considering the sheer number of programmers working for Microsoft, both in-house and contractually, not to mention the dollar figure investments being made, there's no excuse for their products being anything but stellar. Falling well short of the mark seems to be perfectly acceptable these days.
Stop making excuses for incompetence.
Ami vs MS .NET : Comment 12 of 12ANN.lu
Posted by Roj on 08-Aug-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Miggy):
A Commodore Vic 20 got the space shuttle to the moon. Just how much power does it take to get a window to fly?
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