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[News] More on Amiga's developer supportANN.lu
Posted on 29-Aug-2000 14:39 GMT by Teemu I. Yliselš13 comments
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Amiga's Gary Peake posted some more details about the planned developer support program on the Amiopen list. Read it below.

OK, you guys are getting way ahead of us. We are trying to do things step at a time, but here goes ... :)

Support

We have actually 4 levels of support. These will be explained in more detail soon. Right now we just want to get everyone going and make sure there are no glitches from our side, so we are not enforcing the tiers ...yet.

Dev Conferences/Training

Four planned annually in various parts of the worlds plus two at Snoqualmie headquarters.

We will also offer tapes and a complete book set of "Amiga Bible Series" of programming references. We do not plan to offer books at some extraordinary price. We are looking at a ten book series, possibly in the $29.95 each range covering various topics and areas of Amiga VP programming.

Certification

We will have a certification program for interested developers. No real details yet, but I am working on it. Basically it will include certifying applications and hardware through our QA dept and Dev Support. Once an app/hardware is certified, the developer gets access to the following:

1. Amiga Mall to sell products

2. Marketing assistance

3. More specific dev support

4. Use of Trade Marks and Logos for certified apps and hardware

5. Inclusion in a USER searchable database for AmigaNG applications and hardware add-ons.

Web Interface

Ray is kindly updating the web interface as fast as he can while still maintaining and checking security as he goes. A painful and daunting task, but I assure you he is up to it.

We currently have an IRC channel (irc.amiga.com #developer) that once protection is in, we will have NDA style IRC chats with Fleecy, Bill, and other members of the Amiga team.

Message Boards, there will be private (NDA) and open (public-open source style) message boards.

Updates

We will be offering updates and some surprises for registered developers that people who have not purchased the SDK will not be able to see or have.

These are not all inclusive so please don't start a debate over whether I have left out things or not. I am just trying to give a "generaL' idea of what we have planned. There is more, but can't spill the beans yet.

We intend to make sure you get your moneys worth plus some.

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Gary Peake Director Support Amiga Inc.

Catch the Dream ... Amiga Dream Team

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More on Amiga's developer support : Comment 1 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by MIKE on 28-Aug-2000 22:00 GMT
Neat, I think we should come up with some ideas for the name of the certification program. Amiga Support Specialist comes to mind, or ASS for short.
Regards
MIKE
More on Amiga's developer support : Comment 2 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by Matthew DeSantis on 28-Aug-2000 22:00 GMT
Does anyone ever get the feeling they're making this up as they go along?
More on Amiga's developer support : Comment 3 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by Marcel on 28-Aug-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Matthew DeSantis):
Does it really matter? It sounds like they got some pretty good dev support programs coming through the pipe.
More on Amiga's developer support : Comment 4 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by Matt on 28-Aug-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Marcel):
It matters to the extent that, given the amount of deliverables that Amiga Inc. promises, they seem to need a plan to implement those deliverables.
To the casual observer, it may seem that they are quite diligent and progress is happening. I hope it is, but I also know that theres
much much work that needs to be done, even if much of it is done through partnerships.
More on Amiga's developer support : Comment 5 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by skal on 29-Aug-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Matthew DeSantis):
You know, I simply don't Get It: AI announces a program whereby they will deliver services of real value to developers, and half the correspondants in this string have to work overtime and strain their brains to slag them.
Quite frankly, AI could announce that they were giving away a lifetime supply of free sex and beer,a the super computer of your choice, your own private OC-3,
a custom-built house, a car, and a lifetime supply of Big Red and Fritos, and a minimum of 25% of Amigans would complain and bitch and slag and moan.
SOme people really need to change their tapes.
More on Amiga's developer support : Comment 6 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 29-Aug-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (skal):
> Quite frankly, AI could announce that they were giving away a lifetime supply >of free sex and beer,a the super computer of your choice, your own private OC-3,
>a custom-built house, a car, and a lifetime supply of Big Red and Fritos, and >a minimum of 25% of Amigans would complain and bitch and slag and moan.
I don't like beer and fritos, could I have RC-Cola and Bavarian Pretzels instead?
(Sorry, I couldn't resist the temptation to complain.) ;-)
More on Amiga's developer support : Comment 7 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by COZnFX on 29-Aug-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (skal):
Cripes! Skal just gave away our whole secret developer package! How did he know about the free sex???
Coz
More on Amiga's developer support : Comment 8 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by skal on 29-Aug-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (COZnFX):
You know Coz, for a Value-Added program to work, you have to give developers something that they really need and can use. ;')
Now for you, perhaps a 7 day set of Harley-Davidson thongs?...='D
More on Amiga's developer support : Comment 9 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by Ray Akey on 30-Aug-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Matthew DeSantis):
No, we are not "making this up as we go along." As the implementor of at least the internet end of what Gary speaks of, I can tell you that this is well-planned and progressing as noted, in stages.
More on Amiga's developer support : Comment 10 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by Ray Akey on 30-Aug-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Matthew DeSantis):
No, we are not "making this up as we go along." As the implementor of at least the internet end of what Gary speaks of, I can tell you that this is well-planned and progressing as noted, in stages.
More on Amiga's developer support : Comment 11 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by Aram Iskenderian on 30-Aug-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (COZnFX):
*ROFL*.
Bob, you and Skal owe me a monitor, I just chocked while laughing and the coffee filled the monitor, and it's a 19" View Sonic. :-)
More on Amiga's developer support : Comment 12 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by Aram Iskenderian on 30-Aug-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Matthew DeSantis):
- Does anyone ever get the feeling they're making this up as they go along?
For Christ's sake wake up and smell the coffee.
What do you want?
First you people complain about lack of Amiga support.
Now amiga *actively* support the users and the developers, bring a program that I'm sure will take away a lot of time and resource from them to support the rest of us, you people have nothing to do better than whining and bringing up Rue-ish style consipracy theories?
What is the world coming to?
What do you want?
Are we all missing something here, that you see and we don't?
If you have a better way of doing it, approach Amiga, or even better, send your resume to them, I'm sure that there are still lots of openings for talented people.
Otherwise, kindly spare us the nonsense, please.
Posting your opinion if was for constructive purposes is always appreciated, but whining is not.
More on Amiga's developer support : Comment 13 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by Matt on 31-Aug-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Aram Iskenderian):
I wouldn't call it whining... I want to see it [the amiga ideas] succeed as much as the next Amigan, or even plain'ol computer enthusiast.
I guess I'm just impressed at the volume of interaction that's going on right now btwn Amiga and, well, everyone, that its hard to believe its all true.
If they hold true to even half of their plan, it would still be amazing.
And even if the the amigans are divided on whether this is all "a Good Thing," it _does_ seem that non amigans are starting taking notice.
And as the number of newcomers increases, so will the scrutiny. The Rest of the PC World seems to be much less faithful than your average Amigan, IMHO.
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