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[News] New MorphOS BetaANN.lu
Posted on 17-Oct-2000 07:41 GMT by Jonathan Adamczewski19 comments
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Beta 2 of Morphos is up on www.morphos.de
New MorphOS Beta : Comment 1 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by JKD on 16-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
Funky time!
Now to convice them to release keyfiles...and to nag Stefan to release the PPC
MUI classes ;)
Steve
New MorphOS Beta : Comment 2 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by Amifan on 16-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
Does it run my WarpOS (the official kernel) progs yet?
No?
Bad luck
New MorphOS Beta : Comment 3 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Yoris on 16-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Amifan):
I remember Ralph Schmidt telling me that the basis of WarpOS would "collide" with the kernel of Morphos.
So it looks as if a WarpOS compatibility is far, far away on Morphos.
New MorphOS Beta : Comment 4 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by Christophe Decanini on 16-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Ben Yoris):
Yes Ben, I got the same information from the ppclibemu author (Frank Wille).
If I remember well it is a PPC register that MorphOS use for emulation and poweropen (warpup) use for something else.
Frank told me it would be very tricky to make it work and that it would have no time to spend on it.
On the other hand I would like to know if a lxrun would be possible on MorphOS to run linuxppc software directly.
Does Hyperion ever thought of LinuxPPC games ? Does it cause the licencing problem or is a Linux licence OK to do LinuxPPC port ?
Regards, Christophe Decanini.
http://nmo-sdk.sourceforge.net
Bringing portable application to all Operating Systems.
New MorphOS Beta : Comment 5 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by Ralph Schmidt on 16-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Ben Yoris):
It collides with the AmigaBox`s usage of gpr2. It surely doesn`t collide
with the so called "kernel" which doesn`t really what kind of program
abis it runs:-)
New MorphOS Beta : Comment 6 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by Christophe Decanini on 16-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Ralph Schmidt):
Hi Ralph,
Any comments on lxrun possibility ?
Regards, Christophe.
New MorphOS Beta : Comment 7 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Ralph Schmidt):
Ralph, get a better picture of yourself put on the MorphOS website. You don't want to scare people you know! :-)
Otherwise, good luck with it all, I will be very interested to hear more updates as things improve, etc.
Will MorphOS ever run sans AmigaOS anywhere - i.e., boot straight into MorphOS. Will it provide its own GUI interface (poss. based on MUI?) as opposed to using the 68k GUI libraries?
New MorphOS Beta : Comment 8 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by Ralph Schmidt on 16-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Christophe Decanini):
don`t know what that is...
New MorphOS Beta : Comment 9 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Yoris on 16-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Ralph Schmidt):
Sorry Ralph,
I used the wrong word because I'm unexperienced in SW development.
But I think the global idea of what I meant was understood.
New MorphOS Beta : Comment 10 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by Christophe Decanini on 16-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Ralph Schmidt):
Lxrun is a software layer that sits between the native operating system and the Linux binary executable and remaps system calls "on the fly" allowing them to run unmodified on the native OS.
Examples:
Lxrun for solaris X86, Lxrun for QNX.
I was just wondering how much work it would be to have a lxrun on MorphOS to run LinuxPPC software.
Regards, Christophe.
New MorphOS Beta : Comment 11 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by Ralph Schmidt on 16-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Christophe Decanini):
With an upper layer which provides the needed posix functionality such
thing would be possible....too bad there`s no upper layer yet, not to
speak about the needed posix functionality:-)
New MorphOS Beta : Comment 12 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by StormLord on 17-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
keep up the excelent work!
New MorphOS Beta : Comment 13 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by Paul Heams on 17-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
Keep up the good work! Any idea of an official release date? If so will the release version also come with an installer (like the commercial Linux variations)?
New MorphOS Beta : Comment 14 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by Ralph Schmidt on 17-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Paul Heams):
Well..it already has an installer script.
It`s probably not very sophisticated...but well..it installs it:-)
New MorphOS Beta : Comment 15 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by Amifan on 18-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Christophe Decanini):
Could this be done on purpose to start the whole PowerUP warpOS war again??
It lookslike the same tactic as DCE used, they don't have it from a stranger
New MorphOS Beta : Comment 16 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by Henes on 18-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Amifan):
By saying that you are discrediting yourself again.
You only show your technichal lack of knowledge.
Or maybe this was a joke ? ;-)
New MorphOS Beta : Comment 17 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by JKD on 19-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Amifan):
You deliberately ignore the fact that:
a) The MorphOS concept (and some of the code) has been in existence far longer than
WarpUP - remember that the original PowerUp concept was to emulate the 68k anyway
and changed when it was realised than Amiga users could/would not afford fast enough
PPCs for it to be faster than the current top end (060) cards.
b) PPC library was the manufacturers solution for the card...enough said.
MorphOS offers *more* than either WarpUp or PowerUp in that it runs natively on
PPC hardware. and is capable of running 3 types of binary...68k Amiga code, PPC
PuP code and *native* MorphOS applications....
Steve
New MorphOS Beta : Comment 18 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by the man in the shadows on 19-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
beta this, beta that... just let me know when a Warp runtime is created for it, then I'll be happy. I would consider programming, but then again, I don't know where to start programming tic tac toe. The majority of my software is pup emulation compatible and only like 10% of my software that I have is nothing but pup. I'll continue to use Warp until it is dead, or Amiga release the AmigaOne thing that they are working on. The only thing that I would like to see though, is something that can give actual benchmark numbers over the improvements of MUIPPC from MUI on the exact same system.
New MorphOS Beta : Comment 19 of 19ANN.lu
Posted by JKD on 20-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (the man in the shadows):
I think there are a few people in here who need to seriously evaluate what they
need and think about what they say before they say it.
What the heck does "until the Amiga One is released..." actually mean. This is
not some magical nirvana prodduct that will simply make computing right again...
You don't even know *what* it is or looks like or how it runs...yada yada...
WarpUP and MorphOS are solutions that are here now and work (to a certain degree)
providing you with faster and better of the solution you know (the Amiga)
oh...and the beta thing..are you forgetting that WarpUp underwent 3 *major* revisions
before it was useable...same with PowerUp etc....heck beta drivers are released in
final shipping product driver on Winhell hardware...not that I'm saying the same is
not true on Amiga....but you get the point...
Software is *always* beta until development ceases
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