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[News] Elbox on Mediator/Voodoo3 driver controversyANN.lu
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Elbox isued a press release on the subject of the Mediator/Voodoo3 driver controversy. Please read more below.
INSIDER REPORT
ELBOX COMPUTER
http://www.elbox.com
Krakow, 17 Oct 2000

In brief

In July 2000, ELBOX Computer and Frank Mariak (VFD) negotiated and
agreed upon writing drivers for MEDIATOR PCI busboard.

Frank Mariak agreed to write the software with hardware and technical
documentation provided to him by ELBOX Computer as requested by him.
He had never asked for cash reimbursement and never asked for making
cash-based contract.

Frank Mariak was to write drivers dedicated for ELBOX hardware,
to the order of ELBOX, based on an agreement between ELBOX
and himself.

Frank Mariak's long-term benefit was spreading and popularising
his commercial product: CGX4.

Ultimately, Frank Mariak sold rights to these drivers in exclusive
form to a third party, who are not affiliated with ELBOX Computer
in any way. This transaction, with the following use of confidential
ELBOX documentation within third-party agreements is clear-cut
breach of commercial law in any country in the world.

This step was thought to block developing highly-demanded software
for Amiga computers.

ELBOX Computer decided to clear this situation up in the following
report.

The last part of the report announces software solutions to make
good the damage caused by Frank Mariak's decisions.

Read more…

On Saturday, 14 Oct 2000

community of Amiga users were informed that an agreement was signed
by virtue of which Mr. Frank Mariak (Vision Factory Development)
transferred exclusive rights to Voodoo PCI drivers written by
himself to a third party.

We, ELBOX Computer, feel obliged to make the entire situation clear
to Amiga users world-wide, as the circumstances around this event
are twisted again and again and give false image of the situation
to public opinion.

Please find the below report as the clarification of what has been
transpiring in the recent weeks behind the scenes.


Background

On 24 July 2000, Elbox Computer and Vision Factory Development
jointly released an announcement on concluding an agreement,
by virtue of which VFD undertook to develop support for PCI graphic
cards installed in the MEDIATOR PCI busboard.
(See http://www.vgr.com/mediator/pressrelease1.txt )

Before this agreement was concluded, both parties negotiated
and finally decided on some specific terms and conditions of
co-operation as follows:

The key point of the agreement was that support for PCI graphic
cards in CGX3 was to be devoid of hardware acceleration, which
was to be fully developed in the CGX4 commercial version.

The parties decided to make the following commitments:

1. ELBOX Computer shall make the developer's documentation for
the MEDIATOR PCI busboard available in order to complete the
agreed work.

The developer's documentation was transferred to
Mr. Frank Mariak on 14 July 2000.

2. ELBOX Computer will provide Vision Factor Development with
computer hardware for preparing drivers for PCI graphic cards
installed in the MEDIATOR PCI 1200 busboard, which Mr. Mariak
needed at that time.

ELBOX Computer sent the hardware: Amiga 1200 in E/BOX tower
with the developer's MEDIATOR PCI 1200 busboard, 1240 turbo
card, FastATA 1200 controller, a hard disk and other necessary
add-ons as well as S3 ViRGE and Voodoo3 PCI cards to
Mr. Frank Mariak on 07 Aug 2000. Another computer hardware
set was delivered to VFD team last week.

3. Vision Factory Development shall develop support for graphic
cards operating in the MEDIATOR PCI busboard. Support for
S3 ViRGE and Voodoo3 chipsets was agreed upon as the minimum.

S3 Virge:
ELBOX Computer received a test version of an S3 ViRGE card
driver (enabling starting Workbench in the S3 ViRGE PCI card)
from Vision Factory Development on 18 July 2000;
S3 ViRGE drivers are currently available.

Voodoo3:
ELBOX Computer received a test version of Voodoo3 drivers
for MEDIATOR PCI for presentation purposes (allowing for
operation with Workbench) on 29 Sep 2000.

4. ELBOX Computer, after starting the production of the MEDIATOR PCI
busboard shall deliver a bundled free package of CyberGraphX v.3
along with drivers for all the currently supported PCI graphic
cards.

ELBOX Computer is now selling the MEDIATOR PCI busboard
through the network of its distributors world-wide.
CGX3 is bundled with MEDIATOR PCI. This is an excellent
advertising move for the commercial CGX4.


Before the agreement

ELBOX offered Mr. Frank Mariak that our programmers would prepare
drivers for various graphic chipsets, including Voodoo3 PCI, for
working with CyberGraphX. Such drivers would then be transferred in
the form of source codes written in assembler for Mr. Frank Mariak's
authorisation and distribution. We expected only making available
some developer's information related to CGX in return.

However, Mr. Mariak decided he would himself write the drivers
if we supported him with hardware and documentation. Which we did.


False information

in the announcement on selling rights to Voodoo drivers included
alleged expected technical problems related to implementation
of 3D drivers with our MEDIATOR PCI busboard.

Please note that none such problems exist. On our request,
Mr. Mariak was to report to us any possible problems related
to his development work… and he remained silent all the time.


Using Developer's Documentation

for MEDIATOR PCI and computer hardware (including Voodoo3 PCI card)
provided free of charge by ELBOX Computer as requested by Mr. Frank
Mariak for writing Voodoo3 drivers, as it turned out, for another
company is the clearest form of breaching rules of social life
and business honesty and integrity.


New business vision

On 13 Oct 2000, Mr. Frank Mariak signed an agreement on selling
the Voodoo3 drivers for benefit of another company. In contacts
with our company, Mr. Frank Mariak never mentioned any intention
of this kind on his part, never suggested such a possibility
and never asked for or negotiated any payment for his software
writing work. He never contacted us in this issue.

Then, out of the blue, he surprised us and all Amiga users with
making a "simple BUSINESS DECISION" (original quotation from
Mr. Mariak's response to our inquiry for explanation of the
VFD & DCE's announcement) on making an alliance with a third
party for selling the above rights.


We hope this explanation clarifies the situation.

Please make sure that we refrain from any comments of ethical
or whatever nature. The above are simple facts to make you all
aware of the plot behind the scenes.


ELBOX MOVES FORWARD

In the view of the circumstances described above, ELBOX Computer
hereby announces that our programmers shall prepare software
for supporting Voodoo3 cards in the MEDIATOR PCI busboards.
These drivers will be included in the software package for the
MEDIATOR PCI busboard. We expect completing work on the first
version of this software within two weeks.


ELBOX Computer
Mariusz Wloczysiak, Press Department


Addendum
Please find the enclosed only and last Voodoo3 driver in Alfa
version for MEDIATOR written by Mr. Frank Mariak. This driver
was prepared solely for presentation purposes and may only be
used in this way.
This driver was never bundled with MEDIATORs, contrary to the
information in the DCE & VFD's announcement.
Please consult the enclosed text file disclaimers by Mr. Mariak
in this respect.
Elbox on Mediator/Voodoo3 driver controversy : Comment 51 of 67ANN.lu
Posted by Robert on 18-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Nian):
What a sad state of affairs - an Amiga company (DCE)taking a well established
system (CGFX), and then making it their own, to effectively cut alternative
solutions (mediator) out of the loop. Might be good "business practice" but
it certainly isn't in the spirit of the Amiga.
Phase5 and Villagetronic used to have driver systems that would work with each
others boards (CGFX, P96) - and they were making competing graphics cards -
they even allowed others to make third party drivers for P96 and CGFX for
entirely different manufacturers cards. Hopefully DCE will see the light and
allow voodoo etc drivers to be written for CGFX, that will work with the
mediator as well as there own G-rex. If they don't they won't win many friends.
I also hope DCE don't do the same for writing PCI soundcard drivers and purchase
the rights to AHI....
Incidentally as the G-rex and the previously announced "Predator" sound
indentical in spec terms are they in fact one and the same thing?
Elbox on Mediator/Voodoo3 driver controversy : Comment 52 of 67ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 18-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
There are three things I refuse to purchase or refuse to support after seeing all this crap the passed week.
1) DCE - I will not purchase anything from them because of there actions
2) Eyetech - flamming others.... amiga inc. partner, this company is a joke!
3) VGR/CGFX - can shove there CGFX right up their you know what! (P96 is much better).
Has Elbox spoken to P96 authors?
Elbox on Mediator/Voodoo3 driver controversy : Comment 53 of 67ANN.lu
Posted by jbgood on 18-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 51 (Robert):
This whole situation reaks like rotten arse. Since I have an A4000T, I was saddened that Elbox's solution wouldn't work for me yet extremely happy that technology like this is finally realized for the majority of the Amiga Market. I even considered selling my A4000T to by and A1200/Mediator and etc. When the G-Rex was announced (finally with A4000T support) I was so happy I almost preordered one. Now I am glad I didn't. This is not the kind of bollux that the Amiga market needs anymore with regards to the Classic line. I am not sure I will ever buy a G-Rex just on principal. I will either stay with my current PPC/CVPPC config or go the A1200/Mediator route, but most likely i will just wait for the Amiga One. Time certainly isn't on either company's side here, and by the time it's all said and done I'll bet they would have both sold more combined in friendly competition with immediate release they will now.
Elbox on Mediator/Voodoo3 driver controversy : Comment 54 of 67ANN.lu
Posted by Amifan on 18-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 53 (jbgood):
Good news for you then.
As far as I know did Elbox announce the Mediator a4000 evolution a while ago.
Elbox on Mediator/Voodoo3 driver controversy : Comment 55 of 67ANN.lu
Posted by Johan Rönnblom on 18-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (Kay Are Ulvestad):
Kay Are Ulvestad wrote:
: If you doubt there was a deal between VFD and Elbox [...]
Of course I don't doubt that there was *a* deal. But *what* deal?
Did VFD promise to do Voodoo drivers? If so, it doesn't seem like a
balanced contract to me. All Elbox had to do was to send VFD some
hardware for testing. And then VFD was supposed to promise beforehand
that Elbox would get some drivers for free? Maybe. But maybe not.
Let's see at the outcome of this:
1) VFD got to borrow some hardware from Elbox
2) VFD got a Virge driver that they can distribute for free with their
cards.
Sorry.. but unless Elbox can reasonably show that VFD made a promise
to give Elbox the Voodoo driver, I think this seems more like a
misunderstanding than a breach of contract.
Finally.. what about the central question, has VFD actually made a
deal with DCE that prohibits Elbox or anyone else from licensing CGX
Voodoo drivers from VFD? Frank's interview seems to contradict that.
So if Frank or someone from DCE reads this, I really think this
question needs to be answered: Does the VFD/DCE contract prohibit VFD
from licensing the Voodoo driver to another party? If so, why?
Elbox on Mediator/Voodoo3 driver controversy : Comment 56 of 67ANN.lu
Posted by Alcemyst on 18-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 55 (Johan Rönnblom):
oh a Voodoo3 Alpha driver has made just for the fun of it then?
i think not
Elbox on Mediator/Voodoo3 driver controversy : Comment 57 of 67ANN.lu
Posted by Stephan Neise on 18-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 55 (Johan Rönnblom):
DCE's press release clearly states that the driver will only be available for
the G-Rex. I suppose that Frank Mariak could work around the problem by selling
a slightly modified driver to Elbox. But then DCE may get pissed off. Oh well.
Elbox on Mediator/Voodoo3 driver controversy : Comment 58 of 67ANN.lu
Posted by Anders Kjeldsen on 19-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 51 (Robert):
..I also hope DCE don't do the same for writing PCI soundcard drivers and
..purchase
..the rights to AHI....
Oh my God, don't say that! Well, perhaps that's what Elbox should be thinking about ? The AHI-developer should get more (secure) support (I mean, isn't it the best sound system we have??)
Elbox on Mediator/Voodoo3 driver controversy : Comment 59 of 67ANN.lu
Posted by Anders Kjeldsen on 19-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 55 (Johan Rönnblom):
personally I don't care about the deals, and wether there was REAL deals etc. What I care about is that SOMEONE probably went behind someone ELSE's back..
I mean, if I accepted hardware equipment for doing some work for a company I wouldn't take that work and sell it to someone else, that'd be "SOCIALLY" to low for me. And at this point, I think it seems like a rotten thing to do, by
Frank Mariak. Not directly against amiga-users, but against Elbox. ("at this point" + "seems" remember those two.) The reason why I care about this act, is that it's not for MY benefit.
Elbox on Mediator/Voodoo3 driver controversy : Comment 60 of 67ANN.lu
Posted by Anders Kjeldsen on 19-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 57 (Stephan Neise):
DCS would either have to be pretty stupid or pretty smart(beyond my limits) if they think they will make ANY money by saying "Frank Mariak's Voodoo-drivers will NOT be available for any other PCI-busboard than G-REX". I mean, either people mean what they say on these discussion-pages, or they don't. Personally
I think they do, and in that case DCE will not sell many cards to the people that read "news" and opinions.
Elbox on Mediator/Voodoo3 driver controversy : Comment 61 of 67ANN.lu
Posted by Ralph Schmidt on 19-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 59 (Anders Kjeldsen):
Sigh..it gets ridiculous now. You shouldn`t believe everything
you read in somebody`s pressreleases.
Again..for the xth time. The Voodoo3 driver was developed with the Phase5
bridge which everybody can see on the CGX Site.
Elbox on Mediator/Voodoo3 driver controversy : Comment 62 of 67ANN.lu
Posted by Dirk on 19-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Mike):
Okay, I apologise :)
Personally, I dont believe anything in the Eyetech announcement was offensive to Elbox, but I'm probably biased :)
Elbox on Mediator/Voodoo3 driver controversy : Comment 63 of 67ANN.lu
Posted by Anders Kjeldsen on 19-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 61 (Ralph Schmidt):
Well, as you often say to others, I will say this to you: You didn't read that comment twice or more, so you probably didn't understand it. However, this discussion isn't about what's TRUE, since "nobody" seems to know the truth. It's about IMPRESSIONS. And whatever you try to say, my and probably a lot of other people's impression will be that Frank Mariak got that Mediator to develope Voodoo 5 drivers. Did he accept it? Why? "Yes, Elbox, I accept this A1200T with this Mediator, but don't expect me to write any drivers for you" ?? Ok, he probably didn't say that, be he would have to be socially stupid if he didn't understood that that was what Elbox wanted (they probably said that they wanted that too) by giving him the equipment. And how can it only have been developed on P5's bridge, if it works with Mediator? Ok, you didn't say "only", but it almost seemed like that was what you were trying to say. However, what bridge the voodoo drivers where MAINLY developed on isn't the point at all.
Elbox on Mediator/Voodoo3 driver controversy : Comment 64 of 67ANN.lu
Posted by Tony Gore on 19-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 63 (Anders Kjeldsen):
And the other obvious question is: If he developed it on the P5 bridge, did he pull the Voodoo3 that was in the Elbox system to use for writing the driver on that P5 board, or did DCE send him also a Voodoo3? The purpose for having this PCI bridge was that for once in the history of Amiga, you can finally use "off the shelf" cheap cards that are industry standard. It's not like DCE are building the actual Voodoo3 boards. Then I would be able to understand the situation. But this is just a PCI bus, and therefore shouldn't be exclusive. It shouldn't be exclusive to DCE, Eyetech, or Elbox, or anyone else who cares to build a PCI expansion system. And I am also not saying that we should all get it for free (although some people think that expressing your opinionyou are "demanding" it for free)....Bundle a copy and add the cost of CGX 4 to each PCI system sold. Just don't try to strong-arm one group out of the picture.
Elbox on Mediator/Voodoo3 driver controversy : Comment 65 of 67ANN.lu
Posted by bbuilder on 19-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
Why am I feeling that history is repeating itself.
Amiga is again in danger to loose some promising future, or at least the neccessary life support for the Classic, just because of the stupidity of some people.
Mehdi Ali would love to see you ending the job that he started (Killing of classic Amiga), pleeease do not give him the pleasure.
Give us a "cross (PCI)platform CGX" & MorphOS.
Ralph, I think it was said somewhere that you are not interested in developing MorphOS for SharkPPC?
Hopefully that is not true?
How about developing MorphOS for the VP of AmigaDE?
-bbuilder
Elbox on Mediator/Voodoo3 driver controversy : Comment 66 of 67ANN.lu
Posted by Johan Rönnblom on 19-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 63 (Anders Kjeldsen):
Anders Kjeldsen wrote:
: And whatever you try to say, people's impression will be that
: Frank Mariak got that Mediator to develope Voodoo 5 drivers.
: Did he accept : it? Why?
Why Voodoo 5 drivers specifically? Where do you get this "impression"
from? He demonstratedly delivered a Virge driver, so why wouldn't
"people's impression" be that he got it to develop Virge drivers?
: "Yes, Elbox, I accept this A1200T with this Mediator, but don't
: expect me to write any drivers for you" ??
So the Virge driver is not "any" driver?
Elbox on Mediator/Voodoo3 driver controversy : Comment 67 of 67ANN.lu
Posted by Anders Kjeldsen on 20-Oct-2000 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 66 (Johan Rönnblom):
:Why Voodoo 5 drivers specifically? Where do you get this "impression"
:from? He demonstratedly delivered a Virge driver, so why wouldn't
:"people's impression" be that he got it to develop Virge drivers?
1) Sorry, meant Voodoo3 drivers.
2) You got a point. But personally I think that Elbox would be much more interested in him making Voodoo drivers. The Virge-drivers were probably very easy to make, since he has made Virge-drivers before. (I assume he just changed "some" things to make it work with the Mediator) So, I kinda imagine them saying something like this: "Yeah, sure, if you can make Virge-drivers in short time, do that too, but for God's sake, don't forget the important Voodoo drivers that 'everybody' want". I dunno, at least that's what -I- would have said. (And please don't say that it's not MY decision etc.. :D)
:So the Virge driver is not "any" driver?
Sure it is. But who wants them anyway? Not many I think. But you're right, I DID forget them when I tried to make my point. But I still think that Voodoo drivers were Elbox' MAIN interest, and hopefully (that that it matters NOW) they tried to make that clear for Frank Mariak.
Now, from now on in this comment, the word BLAME means:
- Having "anger" against someone because they did something that wasn't for MY benefit/interest, and it wasn't for the best for the Amiga-environment(In my opinion)
So, personally I don't BLAME the person that sold his work, because I can understand how it must be much better to get paid for SURE. But I blame DCE much more, because they now seem to want a monopoly, which they of course think will gain a lot for THEM. I wouldn't BLAME anybody if they tried to co-operate for a COMMON CAUSE. Most of ours cause; trying to keep the amiga-environment alive. And I still believe that a co-operation between the three companies would mean more PCI-busboards sold (totally), than if they all sold busboards and DIDN'T co-operate.
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