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[News] Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 releasedANN.lu
Posted on 03-Jan-2001 17:55 GMT by AmiRaouL37 comments
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AmiRaouL writes: The Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 was released on the Amiga OS 3.5 support pages from Amiga Inc. !! For those who don`t own Amiga OS 3.9!! :-))
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 1 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
Well, this should finally make some people shut up...
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 2 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Lars Nelson on 02-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
Yeah, I got off of the 3.5 mailing list because of all of the griping.
We want this, we want that, where is BoingBag2, etc. I've been very
happy with 3.5 myself. Boing Bag 2 will be a bonus. Before upgrading
to 3.9 of course.
- Lars Nelson
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 3 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Remco Komduur on 02-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
OS 3.5 is a dead end anyhow. The BoingBag for OS 3.9 will have ASyncWB in it which won't be available for OS 3.5. And this feature should also shut some people up about no new important things to OS 3.9.
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 4 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Rundfod on 02-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
Can anyone please tell me what BoingBag 2 includes/fixes ?
Thx in advance
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 5 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 02-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
AFAIR most of the libraries included in BB2 are the same as the ones
in OS 3.9.
So if you want to update to OS 3.9 without spending money get BB2 if
you can live without some commercial tools and if you already have
DOpus for a multitasking workbench.
BTW I guess they released BB2 because in a German newsgroup someone
posted an URL to a pirated beta of BB2...
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 6 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Paul Heams on 02-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (David Scheibler):
>> So if you want to update to OS 3.9 without spending money get BB2
But if you want to support the future of the Amiga then buy OS3.9.
Your choice.....
Paul.
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 7 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Remco Komduur):
What exactly is AsyncWB?
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 8 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Anonymous):
AsyncWB is a hack that makes WB more multithreaded.
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 9 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by CCRider on 03-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Anonymous):
No, it's not a hack.
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 10 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by GeorgeB on 03-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Rundfod):
You can find a list of the fixes at:
<A href="http://www.realdreams.cz/amiga/local/4_1boingbag2.html">http://www.realdreams.cz/amiga/local/4_1boingbag2.html</A>
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 11 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Chris on 03-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Anonymous):
Download Scalos or buy DOpus and you`ll see what an "AsynchWB" is: several
simultaneous operations (copy, move, delete etc) possible, unlike the vanilla
WB which was restricted to one operation at a time.
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 12 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Gregg on 03-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
*WARNING* BB2 is "incompatible" with ToolsDaemon - you should regress workbench.library if you want to continue using TD.
Gregg
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 13 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Ken on 03-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Gregg):
ToolsDaemon works on my machine if I use MagicMenu and don't use Amidock which came with OS3.9
If MagicMenu is not used, then ToolsDaemon won't work at all.
K.Trossen
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 14 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Mark Phillips on 03-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
I installed BB2 and the system wouldnt boot up again.
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 15 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Frederik on 03-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
My system is running perfectly..
I Am going to buy 3.9 :-)
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 16 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Olivier Fabre on 04-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Ken):
Do you mean that when AmiDock is run then ToolsDaemon doesn't work ??
Looks strange.. Would that mean that AmiDock patches some OS functions ?
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 17 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Chris Tsaldaris on 04-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
Tooldeamons dont work so ?? workbench.library 45.102 that came with
OS3.9 has this option build (no more hack)
so UPDATE !!!
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 18 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Chris Tsaldaris on 04-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
Ohh and BB2 didn;t came with OS3.9 libraries
BB2 libs was 44.xxx while OS3.9 was 45.xxx
:)
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 19 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by phil on 04-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
that's not important for me, my amiga is dead.... (and try to
contact DCE for repairing (cyberstormppc), they only exist for
advertising... for the rest bye).
snirf, I want my amiga back!!!! Is anybody know a SERIOUS company
who can repair phase5 product.
Thx thx thx thx in advance :)))
phil
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 20 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Ken Trossen on 04-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Olivier Fabre):
Yes, if I boot up with ToolsDaemon installed, and then launch AmiDock, then ToolsDaemon
ceases to work. But, then if i quit AmiDock, then ToolsDaemon works again so it's not fatal.
If ToolsDaemon and AmiDock are both started from WBStartup then ToolsDaemon won't work either.
Kinda weird, but no weirder that having to use MagicMenu to get ToolsDaemon to run
with 3.9 to begin with.
Ken Trossen
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 21 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 04-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Chris):
Ah, you mean like good-old Jazzbench did (for free) under OS1.3 - it was THE best workbench replacement EVER.
Behaved just like workbench (unlike crappy DOpus), and yet was truely multithreaded.
It was a BIG pain not ot have Jazzbench when I upgraded to OS2.1, that's for sure!
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 22 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by sutro on 05-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (phil):
::snirf, I want my amiga back!!!! Is anybody know a SERIOUS company
who can repair phase5 product.
I would try Eyetech or Analaogic if I were you.
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 23 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Gregg on 05-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Gregg):
OK, it's true, MM does allow TD to work (as long as you invoke MM at least once
before TD), but this just means that H&P are spawny gits (this time at least) -
doesn't let them off the hook for breaking TD in the first place.
Grumpy grumpy grumpy...
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 24 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Alcemyst on 05-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Ken):
i have tried to recreate this Toolsdaemon problem with
MUI AmiDock & its works all the time no matter what i try.
With Or with out MUI & AmiDock
Os3.9 & Os3.5 & BB2
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 25 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Martin Baute on 05-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Paul Heams):
If you think buying AmigaOS3.9 is a good way to support Amiga Inc., you might
want to read my comment to the Bill McEwen topic above, or the upcoming article
at Amiga Aktuell International (http://www.aakt.de, by the end of January).
I think the commitment 50,000 x OS3.9 -> OS4.0 was one of the most stupid moves
I´ve ever seen any Amiga company doing.
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 26 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Troels Ersking on 05-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Martin Baute):
Couldn't agree more...
We have to make sure to get developers and users to concentrate on using the SDK and offcourse the AmigaDE (when it arrives), everything else will split the (remaining) community once again.
Just how many people would actually buy the 0S4.0ppc?? My guess is that it will only be those with the slow outdated P5 PPC cards that can't run AmigaDE natively!
How big is that number? 8000?.
I guess owners of SharkPPC, AmigaONE and other ppc cards would prefer AmigaDE, which WILL have lots of features (and lesser hacks:) the classic OS haven't.
So if the Amiga should have a chance to succeed we will have to leave the classic behind and concentrate on AmigaDE as this also makes it possible for Amiga to get money from STB companies etc.
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 27 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by phil on 05-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (sutro):
thanks,
but i think Eyetech works with dce... but i will try to have an answeer.
phil
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 28 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Alcemyst on 05-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Alcemyst):
Ooops MUI=MagicMenu :)
in my comments above
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 29 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by NihilVor on 05-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Martin Baute):
And your comment makes no sense-- Amiga is not losing money in development of 3.x-- H&P do that. In fact they are making money from it (which is why they have done it). 4.0 would be incorporated into the plans for the Amiga Classic + DE bridge. Yes, you should buy 3.9-- but not just for the support: for the features, the new prefs and the upcoming BB1.
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 30 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Chris Tsaldaris on 06-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Troels Ersking):
in reply of comment 26
better say that its you opinion even if i had a "slow" 603/160mhz
or a SharkPPC/CyberstomG4@800mhz i would buy AmigaOS4.0
the AmigaDE i wouldn'n buy it even if i had the most powerfull
machine in the world because i dont wand somithing that has the name
of amiga but somethink that it is an amiga
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 31 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Martin Baute on 06-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
NihilVor:
> And your comment makes no sense-- Amiga is not losing money in development
> of 3.x-- H&P do that. In fact they are making money from it (which is why
> they have done it).
Nope, they did it to keep the whining and bitching users content. The cash
influx isn´t big enough to make much difference for Amiga Inc. (citing McEwen
from Corinna Cohn´s interview at MooBunny).
> 4.0 would be incorporated into the plans for the Amiga Classic + DE bridge.
New features in the OS4.0 would be of no use for OS3.x software. If you want
to make use of the new features, your software had to be rewritten for OS4.0.
Software that is written for OS4.0 had to be rewritten again to run on AmigaDE.
A great way to waste time and money.
Chris Tsaldaris:
> even if i had a "slow" 603/160mhz
> or a SharkPPC/CyberstomG4@800mhz i would buy AmigaOS4.0
> the AmigaDE i wouldn'n buy it even if i had the most powerfull
> machine in the world because i dont wand somithing that has the name
> of amiga but somethink that it is an amiga
He. Ignorance. Do you think OS4.0 would have more in common with OS3.x
than AmigaDE? Think again. Both could run OS3.x software only in emulation
(this is not opinion, not rumor, but a *quote* from Fleecy Moss!), both
have to be rewritten from scratch to fix the old bugs and implement all
the features you are asking for from a new, modern OS.
Bottom line, technically there would be very little difference between OS4.0
and AmigaDE - both are new technology with a backward compatibility / emulator.
The fact that Amiga Inc. would have to develop *both* of them (splitting money
and manpower), and developers would have to rewrite their apps *twice* (OS3.x
-> OS4.0 -> AmigaDE) instead of once (OS3.x -> AmigaDE) make OS4.0 look like
a *very* bad idea.
To quote Chris again:
> i dont wand somithing that has the name
> of amiga but somethink that it is an amiga
Then OS3.9 is the last thing "Amiga" for you anyways. Both OS4.0 AND AmigaDE
will be new technology, with some ideas continued.
I for one couldn´t care less if it´s named "Amiga", "Intent", "shoobedoo"
or whatever, as long as it is powerful, easy to set up, use, and develop for,
readily available, stable and fun.
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 32 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Mousky on 07-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Anonymous):
Not really. I just read a message on the OS35 mailing list that an updated BoingBag2 archive is the works. Things just get more interesting at H&P ;)
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 33 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Elliott Olson on 07-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
Since installing BB2, has anyone else been having trouble with AmIRC crashing the system when attempting a "/reconnect"?
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 34 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Chris Tsaldaris on 07-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (Martin Baute):
You are wrong Martin
AmigaOS4 it would be new yes but it would be a AmigaOS
with New ideas etc
AmigaDE is nothing more than the ElateOS with the AmigaDE on him
maybe some changes to dont let it be exacly the same and some stolen
ideas due its now "amiga"
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 35 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (Chris Tsaldaris):
These are just playing with words...
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 36 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Michael Taylor on 10-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
I personally like BB1, BB2. I'm downloading BB2a now. I'd love to have a PPC/WOS
version of the Classic AMIGA! H&P may be having some problems but I believe they
ARE trying where others from the past have failed. How about constructive words to
them rather than pissing and moaning?
Personally...I'm WITH Amiga and H&P. Is there another choice? I don't think SO!
Amiga... For The Future! <- Anyone Remember that?! GO AMIGA! YEAH!! :)
Amiga OS 3.5 BoingBag #2 released : Comment 37 of 37ANN.lu
Posted by Jacken on 12-Jan-2001 23:00 GMT
Hi..
Its nice to see that Amiga still supports Os3.5..
But Os3.9 is worth the money..Its great..
Ive been having trouble with IBrowse before,but
after installing Os3.9 the problems are gone..
I dont know if its Os3.9 that does it..But the
programs i use and the config is the same that
before..
And IBrowse2.2 has a little "update"..To get
the mimes to work with Os3.9..And there is even
a IBrowse2.3 beta..
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