| [News] Payback Playable Demo Available! | ANN.lu |
| Posted on 08-Feb-2001 02:08 GMT by James Daniels | 45 comments
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Apex Designs have
released a playable demo
of Payback. The
full game is due to be released in less than a week.
If you'd always wondered what it would be like to be a master
criminal, then Payback is the game for you. It's entirely non-linear -
to complete a level you simply have to obtain a certain number of
points - how you get those points is entirely up to you; you can do
what the local kingpin tells you, uncover secret missions or just go
on a mad killing spree. There are lots of hidden surprises to
discover, so you'll have to play the game through several times to
find all the extras.
As you'll have probably guessed, the game is inspired by Grand
Theft Auto, but every effort has been put in to make sure that Payback
beats GTA in every way. The game engine supports perspective correct
texture mapping, environment mapping (reflections), bump mapping,
realistic shadows, alpha-channelling (lens flares, explosions and
shockwaves), 12 channel 3D sound and realistic physics. The game will
also be translated into several languages. This is a game that all
Amigans can be proud of.
Features of the full game include:
- Perspective correct texture mapping.
- Environment mapped cars
- Bump-mapped reflections
- Realistic physics model
- Advanced alpha-channelling effects. (Check out those explosions
and lens flares!)
- 3 huge cities to explore.
- Dozens of vehicles to drive, each with their own unique handling
characteristics. Includes trucks, cars, buses, boats, tanks and a few
other surprises!
- Motion captured human animation.
- Realistic real-time shadows.
- Non-linear mission structure.
- Advanced 3d audio system: Stereo, 12 channels, tracks up to 500
sounds, realistically simulates doppler effect and inverse-square
law.
- Runs well on an 040/25 - and is even better on faster
machines!
- Multiplayer mode with support for up to 4 players.
- CD32 and PSX joypad support.
- Graphics card support at resolutions of up to 1280x1024.
As soon as it becomes available, you will be able to buy the full
game at:
http://www.apex-designs.net/shop/
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 1 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by James Daniels on 07-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | What do you guys think?
Christian, any change of your putting this on the main page? Please?
:) |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 2 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Dave on 07-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 1 (James Daniels):
> What do you guys think?
I mailed you privately, looking forward for a reply :)
From the short amount of time you get, it's quite good (the little
touches are excellent - snowflakes, footprints, flamethrower ;). I
never knew you could get so much blood out of computer characters
either.
I hope you do well with it.
> Christian, any change of your putting this on the main page? Please?
> :)
Didn't he say he was going on holiday or something, so there wouldn't
be updates for a few days? |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 3 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by leki on 08-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 1 (James Daniels):
so far i think your game is pretty good....although a bit slow on my
040 at 25Mhz...any chance of a PPC version so i can use it on my
240MHz PPC and Bvission?
also when you answer the phone at the far left of the set of phones
the game crashes :(
also the 3 minute game time is a bit harsh..i wouldn`t mind but you
have to wait ages for the game to load before you can play and then
after your 3 mins are up your forced to wait AGES for the text to
scroll down before you can play again.
how about bug fixed demo without all the annoying wating and
a bit more game time.
:) |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 4 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 08-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 3 (leki):
I've had no problem with crashes and answering the left phone.
The game runs good on my 50 Mhz 030 (fpu) at Low Res-- it is somewhat playable at High Res (but not High Res Interlaced).
There are lots of impressive details in this game (like the change in sound when you walk across a bridge or the limp you develop if injured enough). |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 5 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 08-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 3 (leki):
Great game-- we need more original Amiga games like this!
One funny thing-- the demo is in San Fran., so why the Euro driver-side cars? :) |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 6 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by James Daniels on 08-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 5 (Anonymous):
The city is actually called 'Los Francos', but I agree the cars ought
to drive on the right. Unfortunately, being a Brit, I automatically
made them drive on the left and it's too late to change now. You'll
get used to it, I promise! :) |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 7 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by James Daniels on 08-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 3 (leki):
I'd like to do a PPC version, although that's dependant on sales of
the game and when/if DCE ever get around to fixing my PPC board.
(They've had it for 4 months so far.)
The demo shouldn't crash in the way you describe (or at all for that
matter) - get in touch with me by email and I'll try to track down the
problem. Does it crash every time? Have you got any unusual
software installed on your system? Run Enforcer and see if that gives
any clues. |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 8 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by James Daniels on 08-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 3 (leki):
Oh, I forgot to answer the bit about a longer demo. The demo is really
just supposed to be a teaser which should be enough to allow you to
decide whether or not you want to buy the game. For this reason, I
don't plan to increase the time limit, sorry. |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 9 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by the man in the shadows on 08-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | | Yup... Payback is ALL OVER GTA... I have GTA... I won't ever play GTA again... Consider cash in hand from me when the game come back from the print pub. The one thing that I did to speed up the time to play the game... create a RAD drive of about 10MB and copy the entire directory over... setup an ENV: and needed monitor files... viola. When you get the "Times up" it's actually faster to reboot the system... played it for six hours strait like that... I want more... I was able to finish three missions in three minutes once I mastered getting hold of a cop car... hehehe... those suckers are FAST. You've done a spectacular job James... I look forward to receiving the full edition so that I can kiss my personal life goodbye. |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 10 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by StAn on 08-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 5 (Anonymous):
Cars drive on the right side of the road in Europe :) |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 11 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Ian on 08-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | I haven't played the demo yet, but if it's half as good as the monthly updates and screenshots suggest, it is going to be awesome!
Well done. :) |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 12 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Kay Are Ulvestad on 08-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | Kind of funny this one... At first, I expected the game to be good, but "not my
type". After playing the demo once, that was still what I thought. Then I tried it
again. And again. And again. And again...
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To sum it up: This 3 minute demo is AWESOME! I'm defineately buying the full game!
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Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to play the demo just one more time...
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Kay |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 13 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by ehaines on 08-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 12 (Kay Are Ulvestad):
> Kind of funny this one... At first, I expected the game to be good,
> but "not my type". After playing the demo once, that was still what
> I thought.
Yes, exactly. The "gangster genre" never interested me at all...Never
saw any Godfather movies, never saw any episodes of the Sopranos, "A
Piece of the Action" was one of my least favorite Star Trek episodes,
I wasn't going to buy Payback....
> Then I tried it again. And again. And again. And again...
Yes, exactly again. :) Never mind the missions, it's fun just
driving around and crashing into things. :) The physics,
interaction, graphics, and attention to detail are really quite
good.
> To sum it up: This 3 minute demo is AWESOME! I'm defineately buying
> the full game!
Yep, again.... |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 14 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by leki on 08-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 7 (James Daniels):
well i`m now running the game in low res and its more playable now (i was running in 640X480 on the Bvission before)...its just a pain having to use my old monitor to play the game....this game really needs a PPC version.....but i have to say i cant help playin the demo constatly and wasting hours and hours of my time just driving round :)...ill buy the game now to encourage a PPC version.
only bad thing about the game so far that i have found is that if you try and steal someones car from the other side from where the driver sits then your guy just keeps trying to run into the wrong door.....you should make the guy jump over the car like on GTA as when things get hectic (and slow down) i forget which side is the drivers side ;)
as for the phone box on the left crashing the game...then yes it does it everytime...ill download the LHA and copy it to my HD again to see if that fixes the prob.
for some reason i think i have read there will be a level editor with the game...is that true or am i thinking of something else? |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 15 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by IanG on 08-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | Oh yes... this is excellent!
Since Daniel himself is kind enough to answer questions here:
To start with, I was annoyed at the way some of the cars didn't
reverse like a real car, ie: the steering swapped sense. But after a
while it seemed that it differs from car to car?!
Heh, being a bit slow to get the hang of any game, this seems to be a
very difficult demo for me! Is this an example of the easy, medium or
hard levels?
I've no idea if anyone intends releasing updates or bugfixes for this
game? Normally with games it's released and "that's it", making me
wish I was on the playtesting team! ;-)
For those discussing performance: The demo seems pretty smooth with
Euro36 640x400 on AGA with '060. :) - Better than I expected!
Good work Daniel and Apex Designs! |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 16 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by leki on 08-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | | also how much will the game cost when its available to buy from you? |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 17 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by James Daniels on 09-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 15 (IanG):
The steering on all vehicles is flipped when reversing (just like in
a real car) - it cannot vary from vehicle to vehicle because this all
vehicles (all the ones with wheels, anyway :) share the same steering
code. The only notable exception is when you're a person, in which
case the steering is not reversed. If you can give me an example of a
pair of vehicles where this is not the case then I'll fix it.
I should point out that the game has already been extensively
playtested by a team of over a dozen people over a period of
more than a year, so I don't think there are any major bugs left in
the game. However, I do plan to release updates to fix any bugs that
do come to light, as well as add new features like PPC support.
(Although of course this does depends on whether the game sells enough
to justify the expense.)
The level in the demo is the third one in the full game, so the
complete game isn't as hard as the demo is to begin with, although it
does get harder later on.
The RRP is 34.95 GBP + P&P and I will be selling at this price. You'll
be able to buy the game from http://www.apex-designs.net/shop/ using
almost any credit or debit card. (Or cheque if you prefer.)
PS: 'Daniels' is my surname, not my first name. :) |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 18 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by James Daniels on 09-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 14 (leki):
Let me know if redownloading the LHA doesn't fix the problem. The
download site was swamped as soon as I announced the demo (an average
of 1 download a minute yesterday!), so unfortunately it's very likely
that some downloads failed. The archive should be 2937408 bytes big.
If it's not, then you should try downloading it again.
A Map Editor is included with the game, although you can only use it
to make levels for the multiplayer mode. (Making single player
missions is a much more difficult process and I doubt enough people
would be make use of such a feature to justify implementing it.
Still, I'll consider add it if lots of people request it.) |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 19 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by leki on 09-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 18 (James Daniels):
well i think you should make it so we can do single player levels as it would expand the games life alot and would be kewl :)...id definatly make levels as i have made levels for Xteme racing and cannon fodder.
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/alexi.t/ <--- URL if anyone wants to see :)
i dont suppose you can play in multiplayer mode over the internet can you?
also do you think a future update would have the jumping over the car thing in like i said earlyer? |
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| Posted by Jon on 09-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 18 (James Daniels):
Single player "map/mission editor" would really rock. People can generate
new levels for each other. This gives the game more length and would really be nice.
You don't have to make the editor easy to use (hard to program). Just the map editor together with a mission spec file that could look ugly as hell (like the way you make your missions). Mission creators would still use it. I know I would. :) |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 21 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by the man in the shadows on 09-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 18 (James Daniels):
Oh yeah... I could see it now...
games/seuck
games/jump
games/payback
games/role
If a level editor was made, I'm sure that there would be plenty of really good levels designed out there that it could potentially fill up an entire dir on the Aminet. Look at how successful Doom and Quake were with the level editors. The demo itself is just so much fun that I want to download the game again! For those who haven't found it yet... There's a helicopter in the demo... YEAH! Now all I need to find is a tank perhaps.
Gotta go... it's Payback time! |
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| Posted by TimU on 09-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 21 (the man in the shadows):
Any chance that there will be further optimization (for those of us stuck with an 030)?
Maybe further options (to turn off some effects, enviroment options, etc.).
The game runs really well-- but I would love to get just a little more speed. |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 23 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by IanG on 09-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 17 (James Daniels):
> The steering on all vehicles is flipped when reversing (just like in
> a real car) - it cannot vary from vehicle to vehicle because this
Yes, and being used to driving a real car, I was surprised to discover
the first vehicle I stole (a white truck) didn't do that. OTOH almost
every vehicle since has worked fine, so maybe it was a glitch or my
imagination. %-)
> I should point out that the game has already been extensively
> playtested by a team of over a dozen people over a period of
> more than a year, so I don't think there are any major bugs left in
Of course. I did not wish to imply in any way that I thought the game
was inadequately tested! Instead I was trying to express how, when a
demo or other teaser is released, the huge number of people inevitably
come up with a few good suggestions. Historically, game producers
rarely offer support or updates to the game, this has perhaps changed
a little recently. The tone of your monthly progress reports suggests
you have enthusiasm for your creation akin to someone coding for fun,
not money, and I wondered if this extended to providing post-release
feature updates.
> the game. However, I do plan to release updates to fix any bugs that
> do come to light, as well as add new features like PPC support.
Which kinda answers what I've said above. :)
> The level in the demo is the third one in the full game, so the
> complete game isn't as hard as the demo is to begin with, although
That's good. I take a while to get the hang of games, but like them to
present a challenge in the long run. I have never been the type to
boast of "I finished this ten hours after I bought it"...
> PS: 'Daniels' is my surname, not my first name. :)
(Writhes in embarrassment!) I am really sorry.. No offence intended
whatsoever, this is one of those cases of the eye reading what it
wants to see and the brain overlooking the error! So, er, well done
JAMES! :-)
Any plans for a sequel? ;) |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 24 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Mark Olsen on 09-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | Nice demo, just a bit slow on 040 :)
Anyways, a friend of mine, one that is good at making things do differently than expected, made the bus tip 90 degrees so it was head down to the ground :) Was kinda nice being able to see the bus from all sides :)
Also, some times when starting the game, I get a lot of output about being unable to load a texture(I think it was) with a stringpointer, I get hundreds of them if it happens, any clue why?
Oh, and if you drive to the top right road and then drive down towards the helocopter, there's a texture that reminds me of uninitialized memory on the north side of a building :)
That was what I could remember for now, but there was a couple of other things. |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 25 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Ville Sarell on 09-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | To James
Great demo :)
I saw someone asking about the difficulty of getting a car. I didn't see a reply (I was browsing quite fast though). So it would be really nice to add that "jumping over a car if guy is standing on wrong side of it"-thingy :) |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 26 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Mark Olsen on 09-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 24 (Mark Olsen):
I just played the demo once more, another thing is that the man walks over the rotorblades(I think they are called) of the helicopter.
And if you land the helicopter at the top of the map and then walk opwards, the borderthing moves. Looks kinda weird :) |
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| Posted by James Daniels on 10-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 19 (leki):
Single player editor: To make single player maps, you'd not only need
to be adept at making maps with the Map Editor, but you'd also have to
know C. (The missions are effectively seperate executables that
communicate with the main game.) Bearing this in mind, would you still
be keen to make single player levels?
Jumping over cars: Probably, although it's not a high priority. |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 28 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Jon on 10-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 27 (James Daniels):
Are you kidding? This is even better. If you can create levels
in c this means that the there are no "artistic" limitations besides the
API to the game engine. The question is though, how does the API to the
game engine look like? Reading between the lines in your letters it sounds like
it's PRETTY much coding. How big is the mission-file (uncompiled) you have to write for the demo-level? |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 29 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Daniel Allsopp on 10-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | Just a quick note to say that on my machine Payback actually runs
twice as fast in 800x600 as it does in 320x240!
I have a 68060 and a CV64 Gfx Card.
Any ideas why this could be? I'm not complaining though ;) |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 30 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by IanG on 10-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 27 (James Daniels):
The existing plan then, is for the level editor to be purely change
the layout of the map (for deathmatch mode)? Is it possible to create
our own graphics too?
I'd certainly love to be able to make whole mission levels. Depends on
how neat the API for the missions is. OTOH I'd soon lose interest in
making multiplayer layouts which I wont be using.. :-/
The Quake engine has C-like event descriptions and look how many third
party amatuer versions of things there are for that! It would be
great! :)
PS: Hurry up and get those disks back from the duplicators - I'm tired
of waiting for the demo to re-load! ;-) |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 31 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by m0ns00n on 10-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | GREAT game! ;o) I always liked GTA, and Payback is a dream to play ;o) One thing, what do I do when my car drives into the river? The game kinda locks, as I can't get up again ;o)
Off to purchase. |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 32 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by leki on 10-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | well i know why the game crashed now when i tried to answer the phone
pn the far left....if you use OS 3.9 and use the unarc tool to extract
the game then it wont extract it right....i think it was a bug that it
renamed files with a space with a underscore or something. |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 33 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by ehaines on 10-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 29 (Daniel Allsopp):
> Just a quick note to say that on my machine Payback actually runs
> twice as fast in 800x600 as it does in 320x240!
What sort of speeds are you getting in 800x600? On my 060/PicassoIV,
320x240 is very fast and smooth, and gets steadily less so the higher
the resolution. By 800x600 it's down to a few frames per second, which
is impressive, considering, but not really playable IMO. (But, with a PPC
version... ;) I think there must be something wrong with your 320x240
mode.... |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 34 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Paolo "Mod3m" D'Urso on 10-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | Please buy, buy, buy this game! The Amiga market really needed some original Amiga games, and not just conversions.
Last year we saw really few original Amiga titles, and just a bunch of them were decent; most of the games are Pc conversions, who are a) slow or b) they miss some features of the pc version.
I'm very glad to see still GOOD games developed on the Amiga :) Congratulations, James! |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 35 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by leki on 10-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 27 (James Daniels):
ahh well i cant programm in C so i guess i wouldn`t be able to do the
single player levels....unless someone made a more advanced level
editor to create single player levels without needing to know C :) |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 36 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Franklin Cheney on 10-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 34 (Paolo "Mod3m" D'Urso):
James...sounds like everyone will buy your game...maybe you
should start your own bonus-levels CD right away. Maybe
try doing a hillside alpine villge, a baja-style off-road race,
an all nighttime level, a multi-story parking garge level,
a tropical island, a LasVegas Casino level...anyway, I hope
you rake in the cash!y |
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| Posted by StAn on 11-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 36 (Franklin Cheney):
I would prefer the ability to jump other cars, the cars to drive on the right side of the road :p, and NICER cars (oh my god they are so ugly). Also, a character designed so that I know which direction it is heading to... :-\
And the ability to remove some effects like the snow to gain some frame rate. |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 38 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Phoenix on 11-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | Yes! The game is great. But I will really happy, if it will run my PPC and not my slow 040.
I spent lot of many to buy a PPC, and I don`t like to use a very slow 68K. Please make a PPC version.
I think many PPC owner want this. |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 39 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Mr.Return on 12-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | | The game is nice, but too slow in 640x480 (I consider 2D-movement below 30fps as slow). Maybe you should consider doing Warp3D-support, this would increase both speed and quality. Then I will think of buying it :-) |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 40 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by James Daniels on 12-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 39 (Mr.Return):
The game isn't 2d, it's 3d. The game will run much smoother at a lower
resolution such as 320x240 or, if this is too blocky for your tastes,
you could try an intermediate resolution such as 512x384. PPC and W3D
support are both planned (although they do depend on game sales and
when/if DCE fix my PPC board), but I don't think you should decide
whether or not to buy a title based purely on which hardware it
supports - surely the gameplay is much more important? |
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| Posted by Mark Olsen on 12-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 40 (James Daniels):
Yes, gameplay is important, but when the game is so slow that it is no longer possible to steer the vehicle correct, the playability of the game is close to 0. A fast car is difficult to control in 3 FPS. I've tried the game on 060 too, and the 060 running in 800x600 is faster than my 040 running in 320x240. |
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| Posted by Mr.Return on 13-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 40 (James Daniels):
The game itself may be some sort of 3D, but the scrolling is a 2D-movement. And I consider this much too slow to be playable. |
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| Posted by ehaines on 14-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 40 (James Daniels):
>The game isn't 2d, it's 3d
No, actually, it's 2d. Using a 3d engine makes it spiffier, but it could
be rendered with plain 2d graphics and not really lose anything essential
to the gameplay. Try that with, say, Quake, and it won't work.
That said, the game is more than fast enough with an 060 at low resolutions,
so if I can get playable speeds at 480x360 (though it gets choppy if it zooms
way out), it really ought to be OK at 320x240 with an 040. If not, there's
either a hardware problem or a problem with Cybergraphics or something, because
there's no way it should be getting only a few frames per second, unless 1)
you're using an unexpanded A1200 ;), or 2) You're playing in 800x600 or higher.
Besides, James has an 040, and I hardly think the developer is going to write
a game that's unplayable on his own machine. ;) |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 44 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Mark Olsen on 14-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 43 (ehaines):
Huh, uhh, as I said before, Payback is faster in 800x600 with 060 than in 320x240 with 040. Try playin the game in 1024x768, then you get the feeling of what it is like on 040. |
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| Payback Playable Demo Available! : Comment 45 of 45 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by James Daniels on 14-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT | In reply to Comment 44 (Mark Olsen):
Then there must be some clash between the demo and your machine. I've
got an 040/25 AGA and the game goes about 8 fps on that. Contact me |
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