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[Motd] MOTD 18/Feb/2001ANN.lu
Posted on 18-Feb-2001 19:12 GMT by Christian Kemp17 comments
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As you might have noticed, I did some minor maintenance on ANN's layout and re-arranged a few things while fixing a few inconveniences. What do you think?
MOTD 18/Feb/2001 : Comment 1 of 17ANN.lu
Posted by John Block on 17-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
If you have been elected on a questionable margin, or have an election in a few months, bomb Iraq.
Oh about the layout?
I'd like to see the posters detail at the top of the message. This let's us see who is "speaking".
John
MOTD 18/Feb/2001 : Comment 2 of 17ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 17-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
Get rid of the side old news links, they should be on the top. Otherwise Christian we appreciate your work.
MOTD 18/Feb/2001 : Comment 3 of 17ANN.lu
Posted by Hagge on 17-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
I don't know what you have changed, but it surely looks "cleaner", nice work.
MOTD 18/Feb/2001 : Comment 4 of 17ANN.lu
Posted by Johnny C. Kitchens on 18-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
Looks Great!!!
MOTD 18/Feb/2001 : Comment 5 of 17ANN.lu
Posted by Han van Gelderen on 18-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
The layout is too wide for an 800x600 screen. It would be ok if the tables
adapt themselves to the width of the window, like they do when I view the
comments of a newsitem.
Secondly, I would place the history links in one row on top.
MOTD 18/Feb/2001 : Comment 6 of 17ANN.lu
Posted by Graham on 18-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
Yes, I like the look - it is nice to get the stories away from the left hand side of the window, even by a little bit.
Also, if we are replying to someone, it would be nice if we could see their message above the replying area.
MOTD 18/Feb/2001 : Comment 7 of 17ANN.lu
Posted by Dave on 18-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
News item numbers on the left - good.
"last edited..." - is it possible to edit our nws items? Or is this just edited by the moderators?
When reading comments, perhaps it would be an idea to have the poster information at the top, as it is with the news items on the front page.
Being able to see the comment you are replying to would be good, as mentioned in comment 6.
Nice work.
MOTD 18/Feb/2001 : Comment 8 of 17ANN.lu
Posted by the man in the shadows on 18-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Han van Gelderen):
The layout actually works fine on 800x600 unless you are reading a news posting that someone has misused the posting features and excluded the <a href=""></a> like this article:
http://www.ann.lu/detail.cgi?category=unmoderated&file=981993788.msg
If I remember correctly, CK wanted to go for an 800x600 display as much as possible. The only time that rule can be broken is if someone does not follow the proper posting proceedures. Even though, I will have to agree with you on the links section. I think it would be much better to have the history links either gone or listed at the top or bottom. Another idea would be to put them on the right hand side inside of a table cell.
In either case, keep up the awesome work CK.
MOTD 18/Feb/2001 : Comment 9 of 17ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 18-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
That brings me to an idea CK. Is there any way that you could check to see if someone posts a message with "http://" and post a warning message as needed. Same goes for "*@*.*" (email purposes). Doing so would help eliminate the badly formed posts. Another idea would be to check and see if the message does not contain any "<P>" or "<BR>" tags. I'm working with Apache/1.3.6 but I haven't clue one about PHP/3 or PHP/4. I know that it's possible, but a pain nonetheless. Hell, if it was ARexx, I'd write it for you and have it at your door in a couple shakes. :-)
MOTD 18/Feb/2001 : Comment 10 of 17ANN.lu
Posted by Christian Kemp on 18-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (John Block):
> I'd like to see the posters detail at the top of the message. This let's us see who is "speaking".
I assume you're talking about the comments section. This is possible, but I'll have to rewrite parts of the code.
MOTD 18/Feb/2001 : Comment 11 of 17ANN.lu
Posted by Christian Kemp on 18-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Graham):
> Also, if we are replying to someone, it would be nice if we could see their message above the replying area.
Should also be possible, but a few lines need to be added to the comments script.
MOTD 18/Feb/2001 : Comment 12 of 17ANN.lu
Posted by Christian Kemp on 18-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Dave):
> "last edited..." - is it possible to edit our nws items? Or is this just edited by the moderators?
Only moderators (ie. me, myself and nobody else right now) can edit news articles.
MOTD 18/Feb/2001 : Comment 13 of 17ANN.lu
Posted by Christian Kemp on 18-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (the man in the shadows):
> The layout actually works fine on 800x600 unless you are reading a news
> posting that someone has misused the posting features and excluded the <a
> href=""></a> like this article:
I'm also under that impression. I briefly tested the layout on 800x600, and it looked fine to me - I only viewed the main page though.
> If I remember correctly, CK wanted to go for an 800x600 display as much as
> possible.
I try to make the site readable by anyone, but these days it's difficult to fit a lot of content in just 800x600 without cluttering things up or requiring excessive amounts of vertical scrolling. Besides, I'm using a nice 1600x1200 resolution over here, so I sometimes have trouble to think back to the days when I still was on a 14".
> The only time that rule can be broken is if someone does not follow the
> proper posting proceedures. Even though, I will have to agree with you on
> the links section. I think it would be much better to have the history
> links either gone or listed at the top or bottom. Another idea would be
> to put them on the right hand side inside of a table cell.
The good thing about putting them on the left side is that it allows more news to be displayed on the first page (ie. there's more vertical room), and besides it easens up the layout by providing a bit of white space, once again preventing excessive clutter. But nothing is set in stone, and I will consider other options.
MOTD 18/Feb/2001 : Comment 14 of 17ANN.lu
Posted by Christian Kemp on 18-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Anonymous):
> That brings me to an idea CK. Is there any way that you could check to see if
> someone posts a message with "http://" and post a warning message as needed.
> Same goes for "*@*.*" (email purposes). Doing so would help eliminate the
> badly formed posts.
Detecting all kinds of links is kinda hard, since you never know which character really ends an URL. I wouldn't even dare to think what kind of regexp (if that's even the technical term) I would have to come up with to cater with all kinds of argument separators and special characters the various websites tend to use. What could perhaps be done would be to just count HREF's and http's or mailto's and if either one exceeds the other, complain.
> Another idea would be to check and see if the message does not contain
> any "<P>" or "<BR>" tags.
In some cases, paragraph separators do make sense, even if I try not to use them.
> I'm working with Apache/1.3.6 but I haven't clue one about PHP/3 or PHP/4. I
> know that it's possible, but a pain nonetheless. Hell, if it was ARexx, I'd
> write it for you and have it at your door in a couple shakes. :-)
I'm not using PHP at this point, everything is in Perl.
Depending on the upcoming Dreamhost update, I might have access to mysql and then also use PHP, but on the other hand I think I'll just keep on using Perl and flat datafiles since it seems to work well enough for a site the size of ANN.
MOTD 18/Feb/2001 : Comment 15 of 17ANN.lu
Posted by Graham on 19-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Christian Kemp):
Surely:
$comment ~= s/\s(http:\/\/.)\s/<a href=\"$1\">LINK</a>/g;
Would work, albeit crudely. i.e., http://www.place.com/place.html would be okay, but http://www.place.com/. wouldn't (the period is a sentence end).
MOTD 18/Feb/2001 : Comment 16 of 17ANN.lu
Posted by AmigaPower on 20-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
It looks nice here...
Later
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MOTD 18/Feb/2001 : Comment 17 of 17ANN.lu
Posted by Leon Davidoff on 24-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
I would prefer to have the links to the other pages of news (1, 2, 3....)items at the bootom intead of their new position at the top left.
Keep up the good work.
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