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[News] AmigaONE questions answered and change in hardware detailsANN.lu
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Henrik Mikael Kristensen wrote: The Eyetech AmigaONE should now accept Pentium Slot 1 type adaptorboards for all G3/G4's, along with ZIF G3/G4's. This does NOT mean that Pentium CPU's can be used. This means that the pin-layout of the chip doesn't matter. A couple of important questions have been addressed on the AmigaONE mailinglist. Read more below for a short summary.

Is a shut down procedure needed?

It's necessary when MP and VM are used, but it's up to the OS how to shut down.

Zorro-compatibility?

Not in the beginning, if at all. Speed is critical and trying to implement zorro-compatibility will dramatically increase the cost and complexity of the main board. This only applies to the AmigaONE 4000.
This should just about be the only classic Amiga aspect, which the AmigaONE can't cover. Eyetech suggests you replace your Zorro expansions with PCI counterparts, wherever possible.
However Eyetech are looking for a reliable solution to this, if it can be done. The AmigaONE 1200 will apparently not feature this and will therefore be out first.

What about the Early Startup Menu on SVGA screens?

This will be done through third party providers and the software for that will be stored in the FlashROM residing on the AmigaONE.

NOTE: This isn't part of the official FAQ and there may be errors in it as I've only tried to interpret and summarize the information given on the AmigaONE mailinglist.

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Posted by the man in the shadows on 19-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
> Q. Is a shut down procedure needed?
> A. It's necessary when MP and VM are used, but it's up to the OS how to shut
> down.
YUCK. I hope I never see a shutdown process for rest of my life. There MUST be some other thing that can be done. I don't want a software controlled power button either. This is one of the very reasons why I think that mp isn't needed, but I won't get into that as last time people weren't reading my comments and just bolstering into some tangent that was already a known fact. If I hit the power switch the system should kick off as if I just unplugged it from the wall.
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Posted by Anonymous on 19-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
MP? and VM? Ok...Does this mean we are getting Memory Protection and Virtual Memory with AmigaDE for sure?
Shutdown option is Ok...if it's fast enought...let's say 0 - ½ seconds ;)
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Posted by John Block on 19-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Anonymous):
And there has to be no havok if there is a crash or a sudden reset is needed.
Some programs insist on going about their business whatever the user does!
There are also people who just like to pull the plug when they are done to consider too.
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Posted by Anonymous on 19-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (John Block):
Erm...I prefer Guru Meditation made in professional way... ;)
Well let's see what they are about to reveal.
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Posted by Henrik Mikael Kristensen on 19-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (the man in the shadows):
I asked the question about a software controlled powerbutton, and I don't mind it, as long as the implementation allows me to turn off the machine immediately without the OS hanging or messing up the harddrive, and I can do the same on a hardware switch. We can use LAN wake up, for example with that.
The question wasn't answered directly, but Alan Redhouse gave an opinion in the mailing list:
About AmigaOS Classic:
"Providing applications are closed down properly - no open files etc - and VM is not implemented - then there is no reason why the mains switch shouldn't be the only shutdown proceedure you need."
About AmigaDE:
"Amiga have publically stated that - at the AmigaOne level - they wish the
hardware to function as a home server and IMO this definitely requires VM,
memory protection etc. so a shut down proceedure will - again IMO - be
needed. I believe Amiga are due to give a major update announcement at St
Louis."
I don't think you have to fear anything, about having to call Mission Control to ask for a shut down. :-)
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Posted by Kojak on 19-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Anonymous):
Yeah, bring back the good old Guru Meditation!!!..lol ;)...
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Posted by the man in the shadows on 19-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Henrik Mikael Kristensen):
well said. Though, to add fuel to the fire that burns the midnight oil, it seems as though there will be more than just announcements going about but actual hardware. I haven't been able to confirm this so it is STRICTLY rumor and nothing more. In any case, I'll be at the show... anyone else going?
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Posted by Roj on 20-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (the man in the shadows):
I'll bring the Monopoly board in case just the two of us show up.
Whoa, there's a concept: a computer show, and a board game is the only monopoly in sight.
=^D)
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Posted by Muffin on 20-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (the man in the shadows):
BBUUUUUUUÄÄÄ!!! If i had the money!!!!!
Hmmm
plan:
A: sneek in to a cargo-ship an hope to be there soon....
B: get a hand-granade on a local-airline(Sweden) and make them fly to the US...
C: get a boat, swim whatever TAKE ME THERE!!!!!
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Posted by John Davis on 20-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
I'm seriously considering going to St Louis. Since I've never been to the 'States anyway, it'd be quite a big deal.
-john
ps. To 'The Man in The Shadows' If I do go how will I recognise you?
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Posted by Chris on 20-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
Look for a shadey looking guy in a big hat and trenchcoat who
seems to keep his face hidden even in glaring sunlight ;))))
Or summin like that..
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Posted by the man in the shadows on 20-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Chris):
Well, you got the hat right at least. 8^) I've been there for the past four years and each year I've worn a very odd looking hat. I'm sure I'll be easy to spot.
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Posted by Colin Wilson on 20-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Henrik Mikael Kristensen):
>I asked the question about a software controlled powerbutton <snip>
Great, a completely unusable machine if a virus got in there early enough in the startup sequence... A software powerbutton isn`t the best of ideas IMHO...
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Posted by Mike Bouma on 20-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Anonymous):
I would like to see a more intelligent and natural shutdown procedure. I think it`s somewhat ackward to first shutdown the OS and afterwards pressing the power button to shutdown the system. I would like to see a procedure where you hit a shutdown button which automaticly triggers the OS to shut down and then the system. In one single step!
Sincerely, Mike Bouma.
AmigaRing http://www.stormloader.com/amiga
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Posted by the man in the shadows on 20-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Mike Bouma):
> I would like to see a procedure where you hit a shutdown button which
> automaticly triggers the OS to shut down and then the system. In one single
> step!
That's what a software based power button is all about. WinME has some junk like that but it's no where near sloppy, if it was, I might consider software based power buttons good. As an example of software power buttons:
Press button... shutting down... system goes off. Later turn the system on and you have to wait for the damn thing to finish scanning the disks as the system was not "properly shut down". So we all know what people mean when they say things like "F"-ME. We should all look at those people and thank them for agreeing with our views.
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Posted by ehaines on 21-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Mike Bouma):
> I think it`s somewhat ackward to first shutdown the OS and
> afterwards pressing the power button to shutdown the system.
Well, there's the Mac way, in which you select "Shut down," and
then the OS shuts down and then turns the power off.
(Of course, the downside to this is that, without a proper power
button, I have to yank the power cord out sometimes when the stupid
thing freezes yet again and there's no way to get the machine booted
so you can select "Shut down"....)
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Posted by David Shipman on 21-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
Software power buttons seem like a good idea, but in practice (at least with every version of Windows I have tried (95/98/98se/ME/2k)), seems to break very easily. Usually the result is having to (as one user said), reach around the back and pull out the power cord.
Isn't there some way where the system can relinquish control over the power button when something goes wrong? ie : the power button begins the shutdown sequence, if this isn't complete within a certain timeframe, it becomes a 'hardware' power button? Seems like a difficult one technically, but I don't see the point in even having a 'new Amiga' if its plagued with the same problems that makes Windows so universally loathed...
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Posted by Dave on 21-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (David Shipman):
Normally there's the option to enable/disable these functions in the BIOS, and even then most machines I work with will power off properly (if frozen) after holding the button down for a few seconds (set in BIOS again).
Still, I'd rather just hit the button and leave knowing that my machine is immediately, properly off and not in some acpi state or something...
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Posted by That Man on 21-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Dave):
My view is that if you have a decent _realtime_ OS - even if it has VM and MP - then you can give the computer a reliable shutdown procedure, which will allow it to guarantee a shutdown response in so much time.
A decent OS with a reliable low-level shutdown procedure would work fine. No crashing on shutdown or anything. Software power down like current PC's, whereby there is a 4-second override would also be best.
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Posted by steffan katz on 21-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (John Davis):
I'd like to go too.
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Posted by Anonymous on 21-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
So why is it a Pentium Slot 1 type slot? After all, the Amiga and Mac had processor "slots" first didn't they? I'm wondering if it is based on a slot pinout already out there (Mac maybe?) or if it is yet something else new and proprietary that will drive costs way back up?
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Posted by m0ns00n on 21-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (That Man):
Hmm, I have experienced shutdown problems on new linux versions (like RedHat 7.0). It would seem that good new PC hw is hard to make, as similar problems have shown up on almost every new computer I've tried.
The early bootmenu on the Amiga will be supported by 3rd parties?! Would they, or WILL they support it? How much will that cost? Loosing this also means loosing the option to boot without a startup-sequence and seeing the actual DOS prompt.
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Posted by Henrik Mikael Kristensen on 21-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Anonymous):
No, the costs should go even further down, because slot 1 adapterboards with an appropriate G3/G4 CPU is supposed to be cheaper than ZIF CPU's. Plus, all types of G3/G4's can be used.
Quote from Eyetech:
"Actually the design has changed slightly. The cpu slot is now like a Pentium
slot1 connector. This means we can provide low cost adapter boards for all
commonly available G3/G4 cpu pinouts - including ZIF - and also gives us the
option to surface mount low cost industrial cpu's as an when available. This
means upgradability is not limited to a particular chip pinout."
But I'm unsure of whether these adaptorboards already exist (because I can't find any info on them anywhere) or if they will be built by Eyetech.
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Posted by Twice-A-Day on 21-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
Hey why the heck would you like to shut down the computer every time?!! It's useless and just time consuming, there is no reason about rebooting your computer everytime you turn it on. You should do it just after you installed some new libraries or stuff like that.
In my opinion a computer should be able to shut down as we can shut down a palm pilot right now, and turn it on as fast as we turn on a palm pilot.
There is something like that in my windows98 powered laptop, but it's not as good as i wish it was.
Anyways, THAT is the way a next generation computer should handle the shutdown and turn on routine!
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Posted by Martin Baute on 21-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Twice-A-Day):
> Hey why the heck would you like to shut down the computer every time?!!
Saving energy, protecting your purse and the environment?
> It's useless and just time consuming,
Depends on how long it takes to power up / power down.
> there is no reason about rebooting your computer everytime you turn it on.
Aside from things like the PCI hardware needing time to initialise. (And
this isn´t a pure PCI problem, _every_ HW bus system standard that I am
aware of allows for a certain initialisation time.)
> You should do it just after you installed some new libraries or stuff
> like that.
Absolutely NOT. Especially not for a server OS; you should be able to even
switch kernels without rebooting. In theory, at least.
> In my opinion a computer should be able to shut down as we can shut
> down a palm pilot right now, and turn it on as fast as we turn on a palm
> pilot.
The Palm can do this because it´s RAM is constantly powered, and it´s
hardware components are specially designed for this power-down-power-up
scheme. PCI, or Zorro at that, are not. So either you have to keep your
RAM and most of your HW powered 24/7, or you have to re-initialize it
at power-up - which is what a system does when roused from e.g. ACPI
S3 Suspend-To-RAM.
Equation: (Instant-Power-On -> Custom Hardware) XOR (Standard Hardware ->
Re-Initialisation on Power-Up)
I could live very well with a suspend-to-disk or suspend-to-RAM system.
However, this is ACPI, and ACPI depends just as much on the quality of
the BIOS as on the quality of the OS.
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Posted by Keith Blakemore-Noble on 21-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Mike Bouma):
That'll be a soft-power-off button you'll want then, or an OS command which results in the power being turned off.
Just like on Macs, Suns and goodness knows what other well-designed systems :)
Absolutely no reason why that can't be incorporated into the spec for the "new" Amiga.
And before anyone says "ah but what if it hangs how do I turn it off", that's easy - hold the power button down for, say, 3 seconds forces a hard power-off. Easy :)
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Posted by Amifan on 21-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Henrik Mikael Kristensen):
Low cost in Amigaland? You know what that means :)
BTW it's probably because slot1 type of connectors are:
1) cheap. Mass production
2) Enables to be CPU independant, so if Motorola stops producing PPC, then they can provide a new CPU adapter board which fits into the slot one connector to enable the use of a PentiumIV overdrive (shiver) :)
It doesn't matter anymore with the So-which-name-did-they-rape-again?One (tm)
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Posted by Alex Klauke on 21-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Martin Baute):
Hello there.
>> In my opinion a computer should be able to shut down as we can shut
>> down a palm pilot right now, and turn it on as fast as we turn on a palm
>> pilot.
> The Palm can do this because it´s RAM is constantly powered, and it´s
> hardware components are specially designed for this power-down-power-up
> scheme.
Boot times are annoyingly slow nowadays including HW and SW (OS) initialization times, I would like any computing device to be instantly available, even from power off. This does explicitly include PDAs _and_ Desktops.
> Equation: (Instant-Power-On -> Custom Hardware) XOR (Standard Hardware ->
> Re-Initialisation on Power-Up)
> I could live very well with a suspend-to-disk or suspend-to-RAM system.
> However, this is ACPI, and ACPI depends just as much on the quality of
> the BIOS as on the quality of the OS.
Agreed. The OS could include a slim-fast journaling FS. That at least would prevent scan/checkdisks times at startup.
Alex
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Posted by Michael Jantzen on 22-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Amifan):
I'm not 100% postive, but I don't think thats the way it will work.
Its like the original K7 - same kind of package as the Pentium-II/III, but you'll fry the chip if its plugged into a Pentium board. (and visa/versa)
Having the same package format just allows them to save money on making motherboards since it doesn't need a custom socket/slot.
I mean I noticed the other day that those old style intel switch's/hubs management plugs (the ones on the front) use the same slot connector as the P2 - doesn't mean you can plug a P2 into it however.
On the plus side most P2/P3 boards are less then 100$ these days - so if you do get abandoned just drop in a new board :).
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Posted by John Lewis on 22-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (ehaines):
>Well, there's the Mac way, in which you select "Shut down," and
>then the OS shuts down and then turns the power off.
>(Of course, the downside to this is that, without a proper power
>button, I have to yank the power cord out sometimes when the stupid
>thing freezes yet again and there's no way to get the machine booted
>so you can select "Shut down"....)
Well I only have to press the power button on my pc to shut it down, it shuts down all of the programs and crap and then powers off. The one time that it did hang on shutdown I simply pressed the power button and held it for 4 seconds and it powered down immediately. Seems to be a perfectly ok system for shutdowns to me.
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Posted by Amifan on 22-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Michael Jantzen):
I think that you misunderstood me.
I ment that there's a Slot 1 connector on the AmigaOne from Eyetech.
This slot has a couple of data-,clock- and control lines to the gate logic on the AmigaOne.
So this slot 1 board is in fact an adapter daughter board which has to be redisign for each kind of accelerator.
So there will be a daughter board which can drive a standard MAC PPC accelerator.
So if MAC bites the dust or Motorola quits the PPC, then you could design a new daughter card to drive PentiumIV cpu or Overdrive or whatever....
It's just a matter of adaptability now.
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Posted by alan on 22-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Mike Bouma):
A decent OS has this feature, e.g. Solaris 8 on an Ultra workstation.
hit power button, it shuts down system and powers off.
sloppy 'home OS's' (eg ME) do it in a half-arsed way (it half works)
now, I hear all the cries of 'i just want to power off!' and the same people are crying out to be able to have the latest and best technology. sorry, but things like VM, MP, any form of disk caching in hardware etc need to be allowed to flush their caches/buffers or things break.
if we have 'instapoweroff' we also have an amiga A500, and all the trouble that brings. no filesystem will change this either (that just stops invalidation 99% of the time)
alan
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Posted by Almos Rajnai on 22-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
Hi!
About MP and VM: no. There is no need for shutdown procedure if the filesystem is stable enough, or the virtual memory is on a different partition.
But!
We don't need virtual memory. (At least I don't need.)
I can clearly see, that my windoze soapbox how much time spend with waitng that slow harddisk...
Do not let the programmers get lazy! Force them optimalizing the programs.
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Posted by Martin Baute on 22-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Almos Rajnai):
We are talking a scaleable system here, which includes servers.
While the MP / VM discussion might be valid for desktops (I´d like to have both of them even there), they simply are a 100% necessity for server environments, period. VM is needed because there are huge amounts of _data_ to be moved around, and no way of smartass programming can reduce that. MP is needed because even near-perfect software is bound to crash some day, and a crashed server can cost a company dearly, to the point of ruining it completely.
So, if you want to sell a server system, there have to be MP and VM. No way around it.
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Posted by Anonymous on 23-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
Ooops...wrong thread earlier! :0
I have been reading that adding Zorro capability to the AmigaOne
is going to present serious technical problems, if it can even
be done at all.
I was wondering if it would be possible to design a Zorro
addon instead of trying to incorporate this into the motherboard?
The AmigaOne will have PCI slots, USB, maybe Firewire?
If this were possible, it seems to me it would be easier to
design a stand alone Zorro case with slots in it that could
interface with the Amiga via PCI, USB or Firewire.
I don't see why something like this couldn't be done. It would
certainly be easier to design and cost alot less than trying to
make the AmigaOne motherboard itself Zorro compatible. I would
certianly think that if they could design the AmigaOne, something
like this should be very easy to do.
There are two things right off the top of my head that have no
equal in the PC world. The Video Toaster and the Sunrize AD516
16bit digital audio cards with the Studio 16 software.
A great number of Amiga users own and use both of these both
professionally and as a hobby. These people are going to want
an AmigaOne for the speed, but these two pieces of hardware
cannot be replaced by anything made for an IBM Clone. :/
I'm not a Toaster user, but I record with the Sunrize AAD516's.
I can assure you that they do not have the latency issues
that even the fastest PC's with the latest and greatest soundcards
have. Never have never will!
Anyway...just a thought off the top of my head! :)
regards,
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Posted by Anonymous on 23-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (Anonymous):
Oh...I emailed this question to Eyetech last night. I forgot to tell
them that I want an AmigaOne for my A3000 TOWERS!!!
I'm certainly not a hardware designer by any means, and this concept
may be impossible to implement, or may indeed be more difficult than
adding Zorro to the AmigaOne motherboards.
If it is possible, then it would solve alot of problems for numerous
Amiga users who would like to have Zorro slots for Video Toasters,
Sunrize AD516's, and any other Zorro cards they would like to
keep.
AmigaOne for the A3000 TOWER!!! Please... :)
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Posted by Michael Jantzen on 23-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (Amifan):
I don't think thats possible - without some rather interestingly brand new chipsets - the likes of which I've never heard of.
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Posted by Martin Baute on 26-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (Anonymous):
Problem with this one (AmigaOne for A3000 Tower) is the same as for the Amiga market as a whole: How many people have A3000 towers? How much would it cost to design an AmigaOne specifically for A3000 Towers? How many of the remaining A3000 Tower users would buy one? Would it make profit?
Most likely, the answer to the last question is "no".
I understand that many people would like to continue using their old systems, because they have payed much for them, became used to them, trust in them. But for people like Eyetech, they have to make _profit_, and if they can make more profit with product A than with product B, you have to be _very_ persuasive to make them build B...
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Posted by Marco Ridoni on 26-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (Martin Baute):
Well, I also have a feeling for my old A3000, but if I have fast EIDE, PCI, fast DIMM slots on a new motherboard, I guess I can simply use the new M/B standalone or buy a cheap A1200 M/B just to plug it in...
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Posted by Shawn on 26-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
I suggested a better way and Eyetech hung up on me.
RUDE VERY RUDE.
In APRil 1 of 2000 I asked EYETECH about the archtiecture of the new AMIGA and what they where going to use.
They said they werent going to uses pci or agp or Bus archtiecture ,but the better direct access archtiecture with a newer zorro slot. They Lied.
First of all why push PCI its outdated and in the end run more expensive and is slower.
Speed hha the ZIf is lower then the Zorro and more expensive just ask mac people. Dam. What does Eyetech think we are ,dummies ?
I'm not fooled so you dont be fooled either
THe zorro accesses at 32bit TRUE 32bit . The pci 16bit. So when data is 8bit like the video cards for pcs=ibc
=ibm compatible it comes through faster then a zorro getting all 32bit of graphics thru a 32bit slot. When we get 8bit
data pass through we are twice as fast as pci at the very least. Bus archtiecture has a limit of 16bit data thruput.
I submit to you that proof and since they have gone the ibc route I cant support them nor do I suggest anbody
else to support Eyetech. Support someone who is going to make the NEW AMIGA not old technology but new technology.
The technolgy is there so ready that we could have had the new true AMIGA last year. I have submitted examples to AMIGA and eytech and bplan alike.
IF this so called new AMIGA or really MAC clone comes about then AMIGA is dead becasue no one wants to buy an mac clone. WE WANT A TRUE AMIGA.
I hope im wrong. GOD speed for the REAL AMIGA
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Posted by Anonymous on 27-Feb-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (Marco Ridoni):
Buying an Amiga 1200 a tower to put it in and an AmigaOne motherboard
is not going to be inexpensive. In fact it is going to cost quite
abit. Just the A1200 and the tower aren't exactly what I'd call
cheap. Then you're going to have to buy IDE drives, etc...
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