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[News] PIOS One system specs freed by Dave HaynieANN.lu
Posted on 12-Mar-2001 20:48 GMT by Christian Kemp10 comments
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Henrik Mikael Kristensen wrote: "Dave Haynie has graciously supplied Amiga Inc. with the specifications for the PIOS One computer system. The specifications are open and can be accessed through www.amigadev.net's document section here (in PDF format)." Update: The files are also available as much smaller zip file at the Phoenix website.
PIOS One system specs freed by Dave Haynie : Comment 1 of 10ANN.lu
Posted by Kojak on 12-Mar-2001 23:00 GMT
Very impressive work, Dave! I hope Amiga Inc. is going to do something useful with it, maybe they are already doing it with the Amiga One. I hope the waiting game will soon be over :)...
PIOS One system specs freed by Dave Haynie : Comment 2 of 10ANN.lu
Posted by greenboy on 12-Mar-2001 23:00 GMT
The PIOS stuff is also available on the Phoenix website [http://phinixi.com] in a considerably smaller (less than 3 meg) zip file, along with some additional PIOS info in the form of a link.
<-- greenboy ---<<<< Phoenix Developer Consortium [http://phinixi.com]
PIOS One system specs freed by Dave Haynie : Comment 3 of 10ANN.lu
Posted by HammerD on 12-Mar-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (greenboy):
While this is great information, and it looks like a heck of ALOT of work was spent on a computer that was never released (reminds me alot of C= work)...I am questioning why Amiga Inc. is linking this info off their website and what relevance it has to the current situation...?
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Posted by szutoman on 12-Mar-2001 23:00 GMT
Does this mean that 1. they are trying to get the design accepted by Amiga Inc. 2. Will this be another computer to compete for my dollars against the Amiga One and other hardware that will run Amiga DE. 3. Could this be the kick ass system we amiga users have been waiting for for many years? I read thropugh some of the specs and they did seem quite impressive when compared to a cheap 59.00 Soyo Motherboard. Built in Audio yet open for more advanced cards is a neat Idea. Quad Power PC or perhaps Quad DEC Alpha processors would be cool. Seems like a piece of hardware that is not being designed to be CPU specific, yet provides the foundation for whatever CPU Module you should like to pludg in.
Could be wrong,
szutoman
PIOS One system specs freed by Dave Haynie : Comment 5 of 10ANN.lu
Posted by Phil on 13-Mar-2001 23:00 GMT
Great :-)
The AmigaDE being hardware-independant, it looks like the thrill of the custom-hardware computers is starting to revive.
If the AmigaDE ever becomes a hit, I think there will be a lot more unexpected and fantastic consequences like this one on the computer market !
Go, Amiga, go ! :-)
PIOS One system specs freed by Dave Haynie : Comment 6 of 10ANN.lu
Posted by Martin Baute on 13-Mar-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Kojak):
*BEEEP*, but thanks for playing. (How many times does this have to be put straight?)
> I hope Amiga Inc. is going to do something useful with it
Nope, their product is AmigaDE, which is an operating system. They won´t do hardware save for reference designs.
> maybe they are already doing it with the Amiga One.
That´s Eyetech you are talking about, probably.
Guys, realize that AmigaDE is an operating system (or whatever they choose to call it) done by Amiga Inc.. The AmigaONE is a specification by Amiga Inc.; third party OEMs have to meet this specification before they are allowed to call their system "Amiga". The AmigaONE 1200 and AmigaONE 4000 are designs by Eyetech designed to meet these criteria.
Amiga Inc. will NOT build the AmigaONE.
PIOS One system specs freed by Dave Haynie : Comment 7 of 10ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous User on 13-Mar-2001 23:00 GMT
Specs looked nice. However, I'd like to see the ISA ports removed as
it's a new computer let's only use 32/64 bit PCI ports instead.
SCSI-2 on board is nice to see however, SCSI on-board once again
is expensive. Maybe they could do a lower cost board w/o SCSI. Also,
Update the SCSI-2 to be SCSI-160. EIDE - I didn't dig long enough but
it should be ATA-100. System bus is okay at 66/100 but I'd like to see
one at 133Mhz that uses DDR memory... (Ah my Asus K7M266 1.2Ghz has spoiled me. But!
I still use my A4000T 604e/060 daily!)
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Posted by Martin Baute on 13-Mar-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Anonymous User):
Erm, I did a quick scan on the CPU module stuff - does this mean the module is connected to the rest of the system by means of a (customized) PCI bus? That would mean putting all on-board peripherals - including USB, FireWire, SCSI, LAN, whatever - through the PCI bus to RAM, which would have to be installed on the CPU module. (Accessing RAM through PCI would be just plain simple nonsense for such a setup.) I know PCI is fast, but certainly not fast enough to handle _everything_ onboard?
PIOS One system specs freed by Dave Haynie : Comment 9 of 10ANN.lu
Posted by Martin Baute on 14-Mar-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Anonymous User):
> Maybe they could do a lower cost board w/o SCSI. Also,
> Update the SCSI-2 to be SCSI-160.
Call me the Doomsayer, but with Plextor dropping SCSI
altogether, I´d daresay the end of SCSI for the end
user is near. It might continue to thrive in commercial
RAID environments, but did you look at SCSI HD prices
recently?
PIOS One system specs freed by Dave Haynie : Comment 10 of 10ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous User on 15-Mar-2001 23:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Martin Baute):
Martin Baute writes - Call me the Doomsayer, but with Plextor dropping SCSI
altogether, I´d daresay the end of SCSI for the end
user is near. It might continue to thrive in commercial
RAID environments, but did you look at SCSI HD prices
recently?"
I really hope not. In tests SCSI often performs much better then ATA speeds.
Additionally, there is better performance and throughput by using SCSI with
multiuser, multithreaded, multitasking systems. True, we all may not need
to have multiuser systems at home. But, I'd say that multithreading and
multitasking is a must for any OS. For CD and CD-RW it's nice but ATA-100
speeds can probably do just fine. However, for my system and swap disk
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