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[News] Pictures of BPlan's Pegasus motherboard availableANN.lu
Posted on 30-Apr-2001 22:00 GMT by Christian Kemp65 comments
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Henrik Mikael Kristensen wrote: Pictures of the Pegasus motherboard are now available here. The motherboard on display is equipped with one 400 MHz G4 CPU with room for one more and currently runs LinuxPPC. There is no mention of Amiga.
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Posted by Anonymous on 29-Apr-2001 22:00 GMT
Hurry up and get MorphOS running on it guys!!! :)
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Posted by Anonymous on 29-Apr-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Anonymous):
I second that!
Can't wait to start playing with MorphOS on that system - at last, a REAL PPC AmigaOS on some nice sexy dual G4 hardware :-)
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Posted by Graham on 29-Apr-2001 22:00 GMT
How about some more pictures?
I can see that they are using a VIA PCI based Southbridge (the ones with the Soundblaster Live! problems, although it is arguable a problem with the SBLive! than the southbridge). It looks like it has 2 Ethernet ports, or maybe one of them is a Firewire port.
What is with the AMR slot? Linux ain't supportin' that, and MorphOS won't. Waste of space, they should put another PCI slot in.
Nice to see the 4 DIMM slots. The board exceeds the Pegasos specification, except it lacks onboard AC97 audio, no great loss in anyones books.
They could have more information on the website. More than "Look, some pictures of a bit of hardware, oh, and Linux runs on it, aren't we great!". Information like "How long to release?" and "Features on this board" etc...
Oh well, hopefully this week. Creating a pretty webpage can take a little time.
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Posted by Amifan on 30-Apr-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Anonymous):
You mean:
A PPC os will run on it. The only "amogaOS" about it is the system gadgets.....
But to repeat it once again: running a OS on such an expensive hardware is useless without software support....unless you want to run linux ofcourse, but lots of it's momentum seems gone, so the amiga users should be an important target...
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Posted by Ben on 30-Apr-2001 22:00 GMT
Show me an Amiga (any flavour! ;)) PPC OS and PPC hardware and I will buy them - no more than £350 though.
Fizz... Fizz...
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Posted by STRICQ on 30-Apr-2001 22:00 GMT
Its not 100% done yet, notice all the jumper wires on the board? The Germans won't release a product with that still there.
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Posted by David Scheibler on 30-Apr-2001 22:00 GMT
AFAIK release date should be Q3/Q4 2001 and the price of a complete
system around 1000 euro.
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Posted by Amifan on 30-Apr-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (David Scheibler):
1000 EURO for a complete system? Incl. CPU card (lowend G3) or only the mainboard (in an ATX case?). The eyetech AmigaOne is targetted at around 500 EURO? A lot cheaper anyways....and the bix '+' again: it runs AmigaOS4.0 for sure :)
But it sure looks like the old phase 5 days....quality....
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Posted by David Scheibler on 30-Apr-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Amifan):
Of course with CPU, mainboard, HDD, memory, ATX case, keyboard,...
Didn't I say "complete system"?
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Posted by Amifan on 30-Apr-2001 22:00 GMT
duh....so it includes a monitor too? You said a "complete system"
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Posted by Anonymous on 30-Apr-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (David Scheibler):
Will a DVD drive be supported?
Will it come in a number of specs? G3 & G4 version
Will come out at the same time as Os4.2 or just Os4.0?
Will I get one for xmas2001 if I pre order? (Guaranteed or double your money back!(been missed around with too many times!))
Will it come with any extra software? (Eyetec say they have a hyperion pack!)
Will it come with Linux PPC & Amiga OS & Morth OS?
Will you answer all these question?
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Posted by David Scheibler on 30-Apr-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Anonymous):
I think DVD is supported as it is also included in the 1000EUR.
You can read all that in an interview with the CEO of Bplan in
"AmigaAktuell international 03/2001" (www.aakt.de).
And it's up to Amiga Inc if OS4 runs on pegasos, as Bplan does only
the hardware part I guess.
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Posted by stew on 30-Apr-2001 22:00 GMT
Doesn't say "zico" spec anywhere! Bummer!
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Posted by victor # on 30-Apr-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (David Scheibler):
>And it's up to Amiga Inc if OS4 runs on pegasos, as Bplan does only
>the hardware part I guess.
Probably it would need some cooperation between them, to make drivers for resources on the motherboard, etc.
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Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 30-Apr-2001 22:00 GMT
AmiFAN:
I'm not on anyones side but could you base what you say on facts?
Classic software DO run on MorphOS using PPC libraries.
WarpOS&PowerUP software do run.
MorphOS native software do run.
As for the price that someone mentions, the AmigaONE price someone said
(~450£) is for the motherboard ONLY. No cpu no dimms no nothing.
(I'll get one anyway)
The Pegasos estimated price is for a full system.
Tower, Memory, G4, DVD, HD, Sound and GFX cards etc.
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Posted by Graham on 30-Apr-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
"As for the price that someone mentions, the AmigaONE price someone said
(~450£) is for the motherboard ONLY. No cpu no dimms no nothing. "
Where did you read that? No-one knows what the price is for the AmigaOne, nor what you will get with it. (Well some Hyperion games is known, so that is about £80 of software included, and hopefully AmigaOS 4.X will be included in the price as well).
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Posted by Johan Rönnblom on 30-Apr-2001 22:00 GMT
Wow! Now 10 weeks ago, bplan said on their website they'd show the
system to the public 10 weeks later. And it seems they did! Well maybe
not the public yet (though they still have until Friday :) but to the
press it seems. Personally, I'm not that much worried if it will cost
a few hundred dollars more or less. The question for me is, will it
be possible to buy, at all? And surely this is a good sign!
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Posted by victor # on 30-Apr-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
>Classic software DO run on MorphOS using PPC libraries.
Yes, in 68k emulation, the SW and most parts of the AOS, too. Speed "rulez".. And it would need not only to recompile, but also to rewrite SW to take full advantage of MOS.
>WarpOS&PowerUP software do run.
AIK, there is some compromise running WarpUP SW.
>MorphOS native software do run.
Yes, develop SW for a slice of a yet little market.. Definitely worth it.
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Posted by Anonymous on 01-May-2001 22:00 GMT
This 400-500 Euro number, I vaguely seem to recall Fleecy or someone else mention.
My understanding was that it includes only the board without cpu module.
It would be interesting to know if you still have to add a gfxcard, networkcard, firewire etc.
as the board itself only provides USB afaik. On a picture from internet after the WOA you could
see all PCI slots occupied but one - does not leave much room for expansion imho.
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Posted by Anonymous on 01-May-2001 22:00 GMT
I am now feeling much more enthusiastic about MorphOS - perhaps I'll buy this new box when it comes out to sit alongside my PC!!
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Posted by Amifan on 01-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
So it's called AmigaOS4.0 then? Euh no? It's compatible here, compatible there...bla bla....AmigaOS4.0 is a port of the original source code....Well not completely, but based on.....MorphOS is a hobby-coders project. They use the pegasos to nuke AmigaOS4.0 in favour of MorphOS. Ofcourse it got better specs, Dual CPU AGP 2x, 133Mhz fsb, 4 dimm sockets, firewire on board etc....
No no, I should say: Ralph Schmidt is using the pegasos to nuke AmigaOS4.0 because...well, I'm sure you can draw your conclusions yourself....
As an amiga users I want the best hardware for my Amiga hobby! And it seems that the pegasos has the best cards at the moment... Just because of "politics" or should I say "attitude" of some single "guy". I'm forced to go for a (as it seems right now) little less highend sollution, while both parties have the same goals.
Ralph Schmidt is playing poker on www.amiga.org with saying that he has chip documentation of other cards then the voodoo range, but not matrox like AmigaInc. What if he is true about that?
What a great situation. We can have grat dualhead technology on an AmigaOne. Maybe fast 3D on a Pegasos. ToasterPCI on an AmigaqOne, but the video processing on a Pegasos (Titan). Play 3D games on an AmigaONE with a "slow" matrox. Play old games on a pegasos with fast nVIDIA? ATI?.
It's so frustrating to see them not working together because of (insert here all the stories of the past years).
To summarize this rather difficult story :)
Great and fast hardware on one side.
Software support on the other side.
Who's going to win here or are we all just losing.......
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Posted by Trizt on 01-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Graham):
>It looks like it has 2 Ethernet ports, or maybe one
>of them is a Firewire port.
Nah, I would think it's two USB ports and nothing else.
Sad that they allow the ARM to take a whole PCI-slot place, but I hope it's different in the final version.
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Posted by Emmanuel Lesueur on 01-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (victor #):
>>Classic software DO run on MorphOS using PPC libraries.
> Yes, in 68k emulation,
Sure.
> the SW and most parts of the AOS, too.
Most of the important parts (speedwise) of the OS are native, and the list
grows.
> And it would need not only to recompile, but also to rewrite SW to take
> full advantage of MOS.
Recompiling for MorphOS usually needs only minor changes, and those changes
can be somewhat automatized if you have a clean enough coding style.
In any case, as long as you program in C/C++, you don't have to rewrite
anything.
>> WarpOS&PowerUP software do run.
> AIK, there is some compromise running WarpUP SW.
Of course, like with every emulation.
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Posted by Dave on 01-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Amifan):
> Ralph Schmidt is playing poker on www.amiga.org with saying that he has chip documentation of other cards then the
> voodoo range, but not matrox like AmigaInc. What if he is true about that?
Yes, what if it is true? Amiga have stated they will initially only go for Matrox cards.
Thats their decision, but it doesn't mean they won't support other cards in the future.
It's not the end of the world just because another developer has decided to support more
cards.
> What a great situation. We can have grat dualhead technology on an AmigaOne. Maybe fast 3D on a Pegasos.
> ToasterPCI on an AmigaqOne, but the video processing on a Pegasos (Titan). Play 3D games on an AmigaONE with a
> "slow" matrox. Play old games on a pegasos with fast nVIDIA? ATI?.
How many times does it need to be said that nVidia won't give specs about anything
to anyone? ATI maybe, I would guess (not being able to find the article you mention,
I don't use amiga.org) that any other specs anyone has would be ones which are also
available to Linux driver writers.
But that's just a guess...he could mean he has specs for Virge/Dx chipsets ;)
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Posted by Anonymous on 01-May-2001 22:00 GMT
VIA southbrigde. Hope it works better than in PC systems. I've had numerous problems with VIA based mainboards, so I had to bite the dust and go back to an Intel based mainboard (on my PC that is). Other than that it looks like a neat system, looks like a good contender to the AmigaOne system.
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Posted by Andy Hall on 01-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Amifan):
Until both solutions come out we won't know how either the software and hardware will work out. It's frustrating I know, but wait is all that we can do.
As for working together, I've been saying it from the start, but it isn't going to happen anytime soon. Both groups have chosen their paths, and we're just going to have to let them get on with it.
Andy
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Posted by Amifan on 01-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Andy Hall):
AmigaOS will win, that's for sure, no doubt about it, but the problem is that Pegasos is has some great specs and Ralph Schmidt is prepared to let it die rather then to support AmigaOS. I hope that there's some common sense in the b-PLAN management....
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Posted by David Scheibler on 01-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Amifan):
The problem is that there is no AmigaOS4!
@Tritzt:
They announced one firewire and one USB port for the final pegasos
board.
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Posted by Nicholai Benalal on 01-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Amifan):
Amifan, as you know some people have a very different opinion
about the potential of these two software systems but it makes little
sense to discuss that with you...
What I would like to ask is this: What makes you believe that h&p has a solution
that is anywhere near hardware independent enough to run amigaos without
legacy hardware? Not even their own plan suggests that it will be possible
in the near future.
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Posted by Amifan on 01-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Nicholai Benalal):
Their own raodmap? hmm...let's take a look....the a1200 is required because of the lack of retargetable software in case of the custom chip.....if you run a prog which insist the AGA chipset for instance ->guru...hm...well, because they are not retargetted to new hardware those progs simply won't run, but that dosn't mean that the OS can't run on a customchipless system with a few modifications....
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Posted by Nicholai Benalal on 01-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (Amifan):
According to their "roadmap" AmigaONE will not run independently at all before
at least AOS 4.2. Nobody knows when that will happen. It is pure speculations
since they don't have the required technology.
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Posted by victor # on 02-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Emmanuel Lesueur):
>Most of the important parts (speedwise) of the OS are native,
>and the list grows.
Yes, sloooowly... (Look at the work of the AROS Team...)
>> And it would need not only to recompile, but also to rewrite SW to take
>> full advantage of MOS.
>
>Recompiling for MorphOS usually needs only minor changes, and those changes
>can be somewhat automatized if you have a clean enough coding style.
>In any case, as long as you program in C/C++, you don't have to rewrite
>anything.
Note that I wrote "full advantage". So, the new kernel, modified/new functions, data-handlings, etc. If this isn't needed that would mean it isn't as much better than the AOS3.x (and definitely <AOS4.x).
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Posted by Amifan on 02-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (Nicholai Benalal):
I feel kind sorry for you...you'll go for MorphOS (well, you're a beta tester) and buy this pegasos to run the old software and nothing else....oh yeah those 2 announcements of epic and titan :) 1000EURO is a kinda expensive for 2 new programs isn't it :)
Go ahaid ignore AmigaOS4 and stare blind on what started as the only PPC os to be compatible to AmigaOS....St. Louis must have been the worst day in you life :)
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Posted by Anonymous on 02-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (David Scheibler):
When did they announce only one USB port for the final board?
The specs still say 4 USB connectors.
Even the AmigaONE shown at the fair had 2 USB and 3 Firewire ports.
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Posted by David Gerber on 02-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (victor #):
>>Most of the important parts (speedwise) of the OS are native,
>>and the list grows.
>Yes, sloooowly... (Look at the work of the AROS Team...)
Yeah, writing software takes time. It's amazing that people
still think that Amiga"OS" 4 will be released this summer (with
all the stuff announced).
>>Recompiling for MorphOS usually needs only minor changes, and those changes
>>can be somewhat automatized if you have a clean enough coding style.
>>In any case, as long as you program in C/C++, you don't have to rewrite
>>anything.
>Note that I wrote "full advantage". So, the new kernel, modified/new >functions, data-handlings, etc. If this isn't needed that would mean it isn't >as much better than the AOS3.x (and definitely <AOS4.x).
You are wrong. Recompiling in native PPC version automatically gives the full advantages. Have you actually looked at the new execppc functions ? They are either very specific or transparently added to the new program (eg. pool vector allocation functions) and in no case require a complete rewrite of the software. And I know what I'm talking about.
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Posted by Spook E on 02-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (David Scheibler):
The problem is theres no MorphOS!
is there i dont know? ive only seen a couple of dodgy screenshots and was under the impression it hasnt been released yet. or was that scalos?
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Posted by Dave on 02-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (Spook E):
Scalos has been around for ages and is just a desktop replacement, in the same way DOpus is. Not an OS.
Demo versions of MorphOS have been available for a while now too.
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Posted by Anonymous on 02-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Amifan):
>and buy this pegasos to run the old software and nothing else....oh yeah those 2 announcement
>of epic and titan :) 1000EURO is a kinda expensive for 2 new programs isn't it :)
>Go ahaid ignore AmigaOS4 and stare blind on what started as the only PPC os to be compatible
>to AmigaOS....St. Louis must have been the worst day in you life :)
Please stop this senseless agitation, it's not c.s.a.advocacy.amigaos4 %-)
The Pegasos is a more open design approach and LinuxPPC already runs on it.
Afaik bplan's board is "zico" specified and there should be no real obstacles
for running AmigaOS4.x.
The worst day was not St. Louis, but WoA '98 when Amiga effectively killed the
ongoing Amiga PPC developments to go for some "MMC" and labeling the existing
Amigabase "classic" such as in "2nd rate".
The ironic turn of events now show that we could have had everything much earlier.
Imho the user will decide which OS/machine will be better suited or more appealing
to him. What we are discussing today is still semi-vaporware - no OS or hardware
can be bought yet.
Last not least a hint from the chef:
"Nothing is served as hot as it was cooked" and "Both only cook with water"
(maybe not translated with 100% accuracy, but hey...)
So calm down and be glad there _is_ finally development and a choice to make.
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Posted by Nicholai Benalal on 02-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Amifan):
>Go ahaid ignore AmigaOS4 and stare blind on what started as the only
>PPC os to be compatible to AmigaOS....St. Louis must have been the
>worst day in you life :)
.
Worst day in my life?...hahah, I hope you're not *that* stupid :-)
There's nothing related to amigas or computers in general
that would have an effect even close to that.
.
Even if you meant it as an overstatement, St. Louis didn't bring any
surprises at all. The situation is the same as before the show.
I will be surprised the day they actually deliver a good product.
That would be something radically new.
.
Friendly,
.
Nicholai
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Posted by Fabien on 02-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (Dave):
Morphos a desktop replacement ? ahahaha...you didn't understand what it is then ;)
You should inform yourself i think...
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Posted by Ville Sarell on 02-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 40 (Fabien):
If you read the message again, you'd notice he meant ScalOS as the desktop replacement, not MorphOS.
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Posted by Johan Rönnblom on 02-May-2001 22:00 GMT
I think bashing MorphOS in favour of AOS4.0 because "it has no
software support" is kind of throwing stones in a glass house. The
truth is, *neither* MorphOS or AOS4 have that much software support.
Whacking each others over the head trying to fight to get the MorphOS
users/developers to switch for AOS4 or vice versa doesn't do much
good, since the problem is not that so many users/developers chose the
other solution, but how many get tired of it all and give up both!
Most users already have several systems. If they like both MorphOS and
AOS4 people will probably use both. Developers can develop for both
systems. Well as long as people get along, that is.
The MorphOS team and AmigaInc have different technical and political
ambitions, and it seems that they can't overcome these differences at
the moment. Having two systems in development isn't necessarily a
weakness. It could be a strength, if we don't waste our time fighting
over it.
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Posted by David Gerber on 02-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (Johan Rönnblom):
>The truth is, *neither* MorphOS or AOS4 have that much software support.
Neither ? Well, for MorphOS software, go to http://www.morphos.de/fileslinks.php3
Isn't that some software ?
And for Amiga"OS" 4 software, go to.. erm.. hm..
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Posted by Francisco on 02-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (David Gerber):
>And for Amiga"OS" 4 software, go to.. erm.. hm..
do you want to say Aminet, amigadev.com......erm...etc
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Posted by Anonymous on 02-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (Francisco):
Which, of course, ALSO run on MorphOS TODAY.
Can you run them on AmigaOS 4 today? ;-)
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Posted by David Scheibler on 02-May-2001 22:00 GMT
Most of the new software announced is for AmigaDE not
AmigaOS4. So you have to wait at least for OS4.5 to run it which will
maybe out sometimes next year.
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Posted by Anonymous on 02-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 45 (Anonymous):
>Can you run them on AmigaOS 4 today? ;-)
Ehhhhhhhhh!!! well not, but maybe this summer ;)
the problem in amiga world is that people are duplicating (or triplicating, or.....)
efforts, the result is that we have 4 or 5 or more type programs none of them with
all the features on other plattaforms and we not have other programs.why not cooperate, why
4 companies writing 4 drivers for the same card,(why not a unufied pci library; maybe this will be resolve with AOS4
) why two ppc kernels that now makes two ppc amiga os....etc.in resumen: developers should cooperate and not make everyone they own solution that split the community and makes incompatibilities
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Posted by Anonymous on 02-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 47 (Anonymous):
>Ehhhhhhhhh!!! well not, but maybe this summer ;)
They won't have a full PPC OS out by this summer!!! Read the roadmap to see!
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Posted by Anonymous on 02-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Amifan):
>I feel kind sorry for you...you'll go for MorphOS (well, you're a beta tester) >and buy this pegasos to run the old software and nothing else....oh yeah those >2 announcements of epic and titan :) 1000EURO is a kinda expensive for 2 new >programs isn't it :)
And what other software will Amiga Inc's new hardware run? Neither machines will be able to run any other system - except probably a Linux port.
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Posted by Anonymous on 02-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (Johan Rönnblom):
>The
>truth is, *neither* MorphOS or AOS4 have that much software support
At least MorphOS can run AmigaOS 3.x applications. Will AmigaOS/PPC be able to do that? How long will it take them to write the transparent emulation?!
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