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[News] AmigaDEANN.lu
Posted on 04-May-2001 11:39 GMT by Christian Kemp22 comments
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John Block quotes a posting in the amiga.org forums, that quotes Amiga Inc.'s Bill McEwen saying: AmigaDE is running, and currently available on PocketPC, WinCE, Win98, Win2000, WinNT, Epoc, Linux, iTron, Zaurus, and others. PocketPC runs on top of WinCE. They are not the same product. AmigaDE is currently available on an OEM basis, and will begin shipping on the first device on May 30th.
AmigaDE : Comment 1 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Thomas on 03-May-2001 22:00 GMT
As far as I reall PocketPC is WinCE. It is called PocketPC in all the
latest versions.
AmigaDE : Comment 2 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Laurent Arseneau on 04-May-2001 22:00 GMT
It is my understanding that MS hated people calling it "Wince" and thus attempted to change the name to PocketPC in newer versions. I think it is just the new and old versions, not one running on top of the other.
AmigaDE : Comment 3 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by XDelusion on 04-May-2001 22:00 GMT
I just want to know how they got it running on a Dreamcast for god's sake! :/
This is kool though, they seem to be expanding.
AmigaDE : Comment 4 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 05-May-2001 22:00 GMT
no amiga version
:(((((((((((((((((((((((((((
AmigaDE : Comment 5 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by XDelusion on 05-May-2001 22:00 GMT
I made mention of a few Amiga sites, and the Amiga NG to:
www.dcemulation.com
Check it out.
AmigaDE : Comment 6 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Michael Jantzen on 05-May-2001 22:00 GMT
I've got a Pocket PC (Compaq IPaq) its powerful enough to run Linux or WinCE (and yes if you hit the about box in the settings menu it does say WinCE). Thing is pocket computers only have so much memory. Like I said - Linux or WinCE, but not both... Anyhoo I'd be eager to test the OS on my Pocket computer :).
Michael Jantzen ^_^
AmigaDE : Comment 7 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Mike on 05-May-2001 22:00 GMT
Uh, if AmigaDE is currently available for WinCE, where can I buy it?
Uh... I don't think i can, therefore, it's not available.
AmigaDE : Comment 8 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by [ujb] on 05-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Mike):
In first stage the DE will be available only as an OEM-Version.
So I see difficulties to buy it very soon.
But i don´t read anything how long the first stage will be?
Hopefully not too long.
/[ujb]
AmigaDE : Comment 9 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by John Block on 05-May-2001 22:00 GMT
Notive that "and others".
AmigaDE : Comment 10 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 05-May-2001 22:00 GMT
They release a first OEM Version before they realease an updated SDK
with sound, better GUI, etc.?
Shell-based PDAs must be wonderful....
AmigaDE : Comment 11 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by StormLord on 05-May-2001 22:00 GMT
COME ON!!!
DE is not an OS.
OSes have their enviroment DE doesn't
I dont want a machine with limited resources to load it more just for binary combatibility.
They realised that DE can't be so easy an OS so they started intergrating it on others OSes enviroments.
DE was/is a dream that will fail with the current situation, cause to be a real revelation must be must be lite and fast, but when you depend on other OS resource and enviroment thats just MORE load to the machine.
I don't belive that DE has EVEN its own memory management.
But for amigans the future is not too dark.
At least we can expect in few months from now a NEW (maybe two) machine with decent resources and our beloved OS going farward to support this new hardware. Maybe it is not a revelation but at least it is a step forwards.
P.S. this is not flames it's just my opinion, take it or leave it ;-)
AmigaDE : Comment 12 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by anonymous on 05-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (StormLord):
McEwen speaks to impress investor's, AmigaDE does't run on any of those systems at this point, the TAO environment does, and McEwen is stretching the truth for the benefit of trying to lure developers to "AmigaDE", because that is Amiga's current business model, trying to resell Amiga developers to companies to put money in McEwan's and Fleecy's pocket. Which you can take as good or bad.
AmigaDE : Comment 13 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Alex Klauke on 05-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (anonymous):
Gee, not again... :(
Of course the DE runs _everywhere_ Tao's intent/Elate runs on. The latter is only
the DE's 'library set' so to say, just like exec/intuition/graphics/dos/dosfont
are for AmigaOS.
So the extensions AmigaInc. made (and continue to make) to intent surely _are_
available on all those platforms Bill spoke off. Right now.
No discussion necessary if you had followed the plot ;-)
And now they are talking of the AmigaDE for _devices_. It is not usual to ship
PDA OSses seperatly, they are _always_ OEM. And this DE version is highly adopted
to this specific size hardware. Nothing which you want to run on your desktop,
just a minimal set of services fitting for an embedded device.
The desktop-able hosted version will last another half-a-year as was always said,
recently.
Ciao, Alex
AmigaDE : Comment 14 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 05-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Alex Klauke):
You know that for example in Germany you have the right to buy a
computer without any OEM and get money for not having bought these
software packages?
Would be funny to buy a Sharp PDA with Linux and not AmigaDE and pay
100 US$ less than with AmigaDE or so ;-)
AmigaDE : Comment 15 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Luca on 05-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Mike):
Do you know what OEM means?
AmigaDE : Comment 16 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Luca on 05-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (David Scheibler):
If anything is Amiga that is trying to convince Sharp to lower the prices. Without the DE you might actually pay more ;-)
AmigaDE : Comment 17 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Luca on 05-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Luca):
...then again, without the DE there're wouldn't be much at all to run on the Zaurus ;-)
AmigaDE : Comment 18 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Keith Blakemore-Noble on 05-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Luca):
Apart, that is, from the rather large bucket-load of Linux-based software which already runs thereon.
Yes, it is neat that Sharp are working with AInc to add AmigaDE to the Zarius, and if the AmigaDE side takes off (which I hope it does) then that can only help boost Amiga.
HOWEVER, even if not a single AmigaDE app is ever written for the Zarius, Sharp wil not care one jot as the Zarius is Linux-based with AmigaDE running on Linux, and Sharp already have a shed-load of Limnux stuff already running thereon, so do not for one second kid yourself that the Zarius NEEDS Amiga - if anything, it would be the other way round, sadly :/
AmigaDE : Comment 19 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by anthrax on 06-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Laurent Arseneau):
True, PocketPC is WinCE 3.0
AmigaDE : Comment 20 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Georg Steger on 06-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Keith Blakemore-Noble):
http://karikatur.dudai.de
;-)
AmigaDE : Comment 21 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by Jofre Furtado, Jr. on 06-May-2001 22:00 GMT
I want to laugh my ass off! The new Amiga (featuring Amiga CLASSIC OS v4)... Was it not
the Amiga team themselves that stated everyone who was in favor of dveloping the classic os would
fall behind or "had no vision for the future"??? Jay Minor is rolling over in his grave now because
the Amiga, always the most advanced computer/OS ever can't sell because the damn
company STILL DOESN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT!!!
I wonder if this rendition of Amiga, Inc. will hire Pentagram to create an empty box
for us to see in a music video to fool us into thinking that theyare actually doing anything in there.
P.S. I have that Gateway/Amiga music video with the old AmigaNG/MCC. Anyone want me to email them a copy of it
to laugh on their own- to reflect, maybe...? Just email me and I'll send the .avi to you.
AmigaDE : Comment 22 of 22ANN.lu
Posted by anonymous on 06-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Luca):
The Zaurus allready has software, and is selling in Japan allready, they are using the TAO
java engine as well, and are looking for java centric software, AmigaDE is in no way
necessary for the Zaurus to survive, they basically agreed to let AmigaDE developed software
run on their platform, if someone actually wants to develop software on AmigaDE, nothing
more nothing less.
Regards
MIKE
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