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[News] Zaurus MI-L1 press releaseANN.lu
Posted on 23-May-2001 12:46 GMT by Christian Kemp23 comments
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Via a comment by Vincent Perkins in this news item, it sems that Sharp have a press release on their site with details on their new "Zaurus MI-L1" PDA. What should be noted, perhaps, is that there is no mention of Amiga, and yes, there are "Software Development Environment" and "Related Homepage sections. Any comments/thoughts?
Zaurus MI-L1 press release : Comment 1 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Kelli217 on 22-May-2001 22:00 GMT
http://more.sbc.co.jp/pjzaurus/pjzaurus.asp
Which is exactly the name Amiga has used in discussing its distribution model.
Zaurus MI-L1 press release : Comment 2 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by John Chandler on 22-May-2001 22:00 GMT
I couldn't find mention of any OS for the actual device: no Linux and no AmigaDE.
This isn't anything to worry about, for these kind of devices the OS is pretty much immaterial - the majority of people aren't going to know or care about the OS or media layer - so long as they can sync data with their desktop apps.
John
Zaurus MI-L1 press release : Comment 3 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 22-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (John Chandler):
Au contraire.
All WinCE (now called PocketPC) powered devices have the logo emblazzoned upon them and make a big mention of the OS in all their literature and publicity.
Every single PalmOS-based device proudly boasts its OS in all literature.
Remember AInc claiming how important AmigaDE wasto this new product? Seems Sharp don't think it so important - indeed, they think it so UNimportant that they do not even feel it worth mentioning even with the development tools (and no, PersonalJava is NOT AmigaDE.
Zaurus MI-L1 press release : Comment 4 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 22-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Anonymous):
AmigaDE is not an OS ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Zaurus MI-L1 press release : Comment 5 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 22-May-2001 22:00 GMT
someone translate, pleaze!
http://more.sbc.co.jp/pjzaurus/BS.asp (Amiga mentioned here ...)
Zaurus MI-L1 press release : Comment 6 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Stefan Robl on 22-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (priest):
yes, they really use AmigaDE...
Sharp has on their japanese site (mentioned one comment before) a great picture:
http://more.sbc.co.jp/pjzaurus/image/mie1-2.gif
;-)
Zaurus MI-L1 press release : Comment 7 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by admv0rl0n on 22-May-2001 22:00 GMT
Why would I be bothered ?
I can't buy this gadget. Its not for sale here.
Some companies believe they can leave me to be last in the queue for thei stuff. That usually means I don't bother.
When its for sale in the UK or Europe, I might take more interest
AdmV
Zaurus MI-L1 press release : Comment 8 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Caricon on 22-May-2001 22:00 GMT
Didn't Amiga Inc. say that these would be available at the end of May.
Well, it's sure close to the end of May, and I sure don't see anything
going on?
Zaurus MI-L1 press release : Comment 9 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Pascal Chevrel on 22-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Anonymous):
Hello,
Big companies (MS, IBM, INTEL, AMD...) give money to computer or device makers if they advertize the fact that they use their technology (indirect advertisement spending). This is why the presence of WinCE ou PalmOS is emphazised on the packaging.
pascal
Zaurus MI-L1 press release : Comment 10 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by victor # on 23-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Stefan Robl):
So, they are now talking about the Japanese version on an English language page, while talking about the US/EU version (Linux, TAOS, DE) on a Japanese page.. Fine. ;)
Zaurus MI-L1 press release : Comment 11 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by gary_c on 23-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (victor #):
The Japanese page is talking about the Japanese version. It says it'll have Amiga games. It doesn't say anything about Linux. The Japanese version will continue to run Zaurus OS, AFAIK. The Amiga-supplied software will run in the Java layer provided by Intent, which has a trademark notice at the bottom of the page. The Linux version, for the overseas market, will debut at the Java One conference, according to devicetop.com.
-- gary_c
Zaurus MI-L1 press release : Comment 12 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Vincent Perkins on 23-May-2001 22:00 GMT
it was good of me finding that infomation. Which I thought every one already knew about it.
Zaurus MI-L1 press release : Comment 13 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Mario on 23-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (priest):
http://more.sbc.co.jp/pjzaurus/BS.asp
The line where it mentions "Amiga" basically says: "First application is a great game developped by Amiga".
I only started japanese lessons a few months ago so this might not be 100% exact :) Hope this helps...
Zaurus MI-L1 press release : Comment 14 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Michael Jantzen on 23-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Pascal Chevrel):
Sort of - actually companies like the one I work with have to pay microsoft for the MSDN disks which have "logo certification" software so you can put "works with windows" on your box/device etc.
Michael Jantzen ^_^
Zaurus MI-L1 press release : Comment 15 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by victor # on 23-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (gary_c):
AFAIK, the Amiga games don't have to be in Java. Also, AIK, Intent, or at least the DE runs on Linux, but not on ZaurusOS. (??)
Zaurus MI-L1 press release : Comment 16 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Guvenc Kaplan on 24-May-2001 22:00 GMT
Why should they mention Amiga name? This is a Sharp product, not an Amiga product. Amiga is just a supplier. Come on...
Zaurus MI-L1 press release : Comment 17 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Gavin on 24-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Stefan Robl):
That looks like the game @
http://www.javaonthebrain.com/brain.html
It's too difficult, IMO.
Has anyone tried the boulderdash game mentioned on the links
page of the above site, I had great fun playing that!
Gavin
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Zaurus MI-L1 press release : Comment 18 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 24-May-2001 22:00 GMT
Amiga Inc forums are interesting to read, currently...
***********
What you write today for AmigaDE will now run on almost 2 million Zaurus's and there are more deals like this in the making.
_________________
Gary Peake
Amiga Inc.
Zaurus MI-L1 press release : Comment 19 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by AdmV0rl0n on 24-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (priest):
Nice to see you here Gary,
There are other forums than Amiga.Com's.
I can't buy a Zaurus in the UK.
We have a modern country.
You don't sell the thing here.
You can't get reviews here.
Can't really relate to this stuff until you show me what I can buy/work with.
Cheers
AdmV
Zaurus MI-L1 press release : Comment 20 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by anonymous on 24-May-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (priest):
Really, hmm call Sharp up and ask them for the recommended development environment for Zaurus.
Zaurus MI-L1 press release : Comment 21 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by sutro on 25-May-2001 22:00 GMT
I am not sure yet about Amiga Inc but Tao-Group seems quite reliable with more clear plans so should be trusted. Its cooperation with Sharp (and generally its penetration to Japanese market) is no suprise. After all its been over half a year since they announced the Japanese localisation and deployment of Intent.
Tao has made impressilvely positive decisions until now and has the right timing to improve even further. What I don't understand exactly (yet) is Amiga Inc connection with Tao's plans. Nevertheless, I hope AInc will fully exploit Tao technology and build an OS for both desktop computers and embedded systems that has as much as Workbench's functionality, simplicity and advanced (even for nowdays) design.
sutro
Zaurus MI-L1 press release : Comment 22 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 25-May-2001 22:00 GMT
On www.amiga-news.de you can read a report from somebody who was on
the fair and spoke with some Sharp guys.
He says that the American Zaurus will have a faster cpu and will run
with Linux instead of ZaurusOS. Also AmigaDE seems to be very slow
on the current zaurus-cpu and it is even uncertain if the Zaurus
will be bundled with AmigaDE. This is a problem because of the
high of the license fees...
Also he asked about Amiga's role: The offical statement is that Amiga
is only a content provider and Sharp hasn't thought about a native
AmigaDE yet.
However "Mr. Bill" met some Sharp manager recently.
Zaurus MI-L1 press release : Comment 23 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Dan on 26-May-2001 22:00 GMT
The sad truth is that there still are many people out there in the business who sees the word "Amiga" as an personal insult, and for them it is like saying "Made in cooperation with the Nazi-party.", it's just bad for the business. This is Amiga Inc's big problem- there are so much prejudice and hostility against the name.
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