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[News] AMIGA PRESENCE AT AUSTRALIAN MAINSTREAM SHOWANN.lu
Posted on 20-Aug-2001 15:53 GMT by Christophe Decanini13 comments
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ARMIDALE, NSW, AUSTRALIA
Sat, 18 August, 2001

It is with great pleasure and excitement that the Amiga community in Australasia (Australia and New Zealand) announces that there will be an Amiga stand (Stand K18) at the forthcoming major mainstream ITExpo/COMDEX computer show at the Southbank Melbourne Exhibition Centre in Melbourne, Australia on 5-7 September, 2001.

Thus, while the northern hemisphere will be abuzz with the release of the AmigaOne and other new Amiga product, Amiga enthusiasts "downunder" will also have their share of excitement. They are excited at the prospect of bringing their favourite platform, neglected for so long so as to be near extinction, and despite the fact that much of the Amiga's future product is still under development, back to the attention of the PC-oriented IT community.

Having failed to attract the attention of the general public or the IT industry media with Amiga-only shows over the last three years, the idea of an Amiga presence (no matter how small) at a major mainstream IT event, was originally mooted by Amiga Downunder UG Inc. (ADUG) (http://www.amigadownunder.org), an Internet-based Amiga User Group covering both Australia and New Zealand (Australasia).

This ADUG initiative has received enthusiastic support from the Australian Amiga User Group community, so the Amiga presence at the Melbourne ITExpo/COMDEX Show will be a cooperative effort by all Amiga User Groups, all of whose members, together with a few of the Amiga dealers still remaining, will be manning the Amiga stand.

We may not be unveiling the AmigaOne in Melbourne, but you can be assured that the excitement will be just as great; so, if you can possibly make it to the Show, please do so!
What Will People See at the Amiga Stand? -

First and foremost, they will see that the Amiga is coming back. And we will be showcasing whatever new Amiga products (such as the SDK, Amiga DE and Amithlon and, hopefully, pre-release versions of other Amiga product) that we can get. And even if people can't see all the new goodies at the Show, they can at least be told about them, thus increasing an awareness within the wider IT community of the new Amiga.
We Need Help -

Yes, as a small community, we do need help. We need help in two ways. (a) We need help financially, because we need to defray the cost of our presence at the Show as our financial resources are very limited, and (b) We need help with Amiga product, so that we can have lots of new Amiga product to showcase.

So if anyone can help us FINANCIALLY by sending a donation of any kind, no matter how small (AUD$50 would be great) or if anyone has any Amiga PRODUCT that we can let people know about or, better still, SHOWCASE for them, please send an email asap to: secretary@amigadownunder.org, with "Melbourne Show Assistance" as the subject head, and details of what you are offering in the body of the email.

You will then be advised of the shipping address or the Show's bank account details.
About ITExpo/COMDEX -

ITExpo/COMDEX is a premier Australian IT Show. Attracting thousands of visitors, it is held three times per year; first in Sydney, then in Brisbane, and finally in Melbourne. For further information about the ITExpo/COMDEX Shows, visit their website at: http://www.ITExpo.com.au
About ADUG -

For information about ADUG and other User Groups within Australasia, visit: http://www.amigadownunder.org

AMIGA PRESENCE AT AUSTRALIAN MAINSTREAM SHOW : Comment 1 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by marijn on 19-Aug-2001 22:00 GMT
i think we need a bank number if we send money
AMIGA PRESENCE AT AUSTRALIAN MAINSTREAM SHOW : Comment 2 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by the man in the shadows on 19-Aug-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (marijn):
You have to email Basil (the sec iirc) first and they will send you information on the bank and routing numbers needed to wire the money. The info is in there... three paragraphs up from the bottom.
AMIGA PRESENCE AT AUSTRALIAN MAINSTREAM SHOW : Comment 3 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by Glassy on 20-Aug-2001 22:00 GMT
:So if anyone can help us FINANCIALLY by sending a donation of any kind,
:no matter how small (AUD$50 would be great) or if anyone has any
:Amiga PRODUCT that we can let people know about or, better still,
:SHOWCASE for
I have a better idea, why don't you SELL something to people instead of begging for donations? It's not like Amiga is a charitable donation, it's a BUSINESS. If you're not affiliated with Amiga, then hit the bastards up for the money. It's their product your'e showcasing, after all.
If I needed money to send my kids to school, would Amiga give me any assistant or support? Would the Amiga community give me something for nothing? F*ck no. Most people are happy to maintain a business relationship with companies, but to give donations just for some perceived "Amiga spirit" (which was long ago hijacked by people who assume Amiga users are zealots who don't mind pouring money down any toilet with a boing ball on it) is fundamentally wrong.
If you're so strapped for cash you can't afford a table at an IT show, then don't go, or put a change jar on your table with a card saying "The Amiga has returned, please donate so we can afford this booth!"
AMIGA PRESENCE AT AUSTRALIAN MAINSTREAM SHOW : Comment 4 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by Ian on 20-Aug-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Glassy):
I agree totally with this mail. If you cannot afford it, then don’t go. It’s up to Amiga themselves to be present at shows like this. A handful of Amiga faithfulls with a couple of posters and towered up A1200 with 14-inch monitors to show isn’t going to impress anybody.
AMIGA PRESENCE AT AUSTRALIAN MAINSTREAM SHOW : Comment 5 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by admin on 21-Aug-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Ian):
exactly. I think we're all tired of giving everything we've got. Please, if
the booth is going to be anything like the booths at Amiga2k1 in st louis, its
not going to impress anybody. Neither will Tetris running on a handheld. If
you want to impress people, show them A1200/Blizzard060/ppc or A4k/Cyberstorm and how
they handle day to day tasks. If you can't get amigainc to do it, find some
friends who put up the money to have such machines. A krusty A3000/040 isnt
going to do it anymore, kids.
AMIGA PRESENCE AT AUSTRALIAN MAINSTREAM SHOW : Comment 6 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by Tony Mulvihill on 21-Aug-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (admin):
Let's see now. We're going to have a projector and screen running movies of
the Amiga DE demo.
Amithlon will be there on a 1.3ghz Athlon and it's author will be there to
speak to and when he's not there we have a movie of him talking about how
Amithlon came about.
As well as Mediator equiped PPC and 68K Towered Amigas.
Should have the whole lot networked together.
Lots of posters and handouts and banners.
Plus anything we can get from Amiga Inc.
AMIGA PRESENCE AT AUSTRALIAN MAINSTREAM SHOW : Comment 7 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by kjetil on 21-Aug-2001 22:00 GMT
Way do you like to show some ting you don’t know how works ?
To Windows users have all the programs and software they need and can’t get from Amiga in there dally work, notes server, document flout.
We do not have anything to seal to these folks, so way use lots of money on promoting something they need. I my self have use Linux as three is no new Amiga, at work I use Windows, The Linux dos not provide the program base required for my dally work.
Even if Linux provide Netscape, advanced network support, star office, this is not all you need to work professional at you’re work place.
PS:
Workbench needs a lot of work compared to Windows, X11 or Mac,
Workbench has no integrated samba, Workbench don’t provide the basic support for starting more then one copy process, and it performs poorly compared to Mac Os or native Linux, and Workbench requires knowledge to use. Workbench don’t provide a start bar, start button as standard for making it easier to use.
AmigaOne requires Amiga1200 on OS4.0 and OS4.0/AmigaOne is not financed.
There is no good browsers supporting the basic applets or Java on the net.
This is not the time to show the Amiga to the rest of IT-Biz!
Let’s wait until we can shock the world :) if this ever will happen :(
AMIGA PRESENCE AT AUSTRALIAN MAINSTREAM SHOW : Comment 8 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by Ben on 21-Aug-2001 22:00 GMT
lol
Yeah - show them http://aiab.emuunlim.com/ running on a decent laptop - it sure as hell impressed me! Start menus, doc handling, everything there! Amiga in A Box setup really does impress, and its so darn easy to setup! Amiga should be talking to the guy who produces it!!!
Unfortunately someone broke the networking in the latest WinUAE, which is a shame... (And a co-incidence that Amithlon gets announced shortly after...)
;)
Ben
AMIGA PRESENCE AT AUSTRALIAN MAINSTREAM SHOW : Comment 9 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by Bernd Meyer on 21-Aug-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Ben):
>Unfortunately someone broke the networking in the latest WinUAE, which
>is a shame... (And a co-incidence that Amithlon gets announced shortly
>after...)
Trust me, that *is* a coincidence. And if I had the slightest clue about the BSD socket emulation under Win32, I would help Brian fix the problem.
Windows programming appears to be rather difficult and hard; Your target OS comes in many flavours, all subtly incompatible, all evolving. Then you have some compilers which produce good code, some which are good for debugging, and some that can handle inline assembly well. And let's not even talk about the many different ways of doing low latency sound output.... The BSD socket emulation got broken somewhere in the jump from 0.8r8 to 0.8.15, IIRC. That was a big jump, and had all sorts of things in it. Some breakage is to be expected.
As far as I can tell (only reading the mailing list, never actually running WinUAE myself), it is being worked on, and improving slowly but steadily. Already there are some people who are reporting that networking works for them...
AMIGA PRESENCE AT AUSTRALIAN MAINSTREAM SHOW : Comment 10 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by Kjetil on 22-Aug-2001 22:00 GMT
lol,
Unfinished Workbench on top of a unstable windows perfect choice for a biz OS,
and emulated. Jep this is the solution with most likely going to impress the average biz.
With a crap port of a old version of BSD socket for 68k, and its not even working code.
AMIGA PRESENCE AT AUSTRALIAN MAINSTREAM SHOW : Comment 11 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by Tony on 22-Aug-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Kjetil):
Amithlon doesn't install on top of windows. In fact you need only have your Amiga
drives installed. No need to have windows or Linux installed on the harddrives at
all.
Networking works fine.
AMIGA PRESENCE AT AUSTRALIAN MAINSTREAM SHOW : Comment 12 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by Kjetil on 23-Aug-2001 22:00 GMT
Have you seen it? Or is it just a dream?
Never hard about Amithlon, Do you know how it works?
Are there any free betas for testing?
Do you have some Links, for this project?
Is Amiga inc thinking about supporting Amithlon, for there Amiga OS 4.x / 5.x?
AMIGA PRESENCE AT AUSTRALIAN MAINSTREAM SHOW : Comment 13 of 13ANN.lu
Posted by Tony on 23-Aug-2001 22:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Kjetil):
Yes I have seen it. The author gave our user group a demo of it.
Very very impressive. Destroys 060 speeds and even surpasses PPC's.
Have a look at,
http://byron.csse.monash.edu.au/amithlon.html
http://byron.csse.monash.edu.au/benchmarks.html
for both an FAQ and benchmarks.
Cheers :-)
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