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[News] ProStationAudio architecture for 2002ANN.lu
Posted on 02-Nov-2001 12:36 GMT by Teemu I. Yliselš23 comments
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From the Audiolabs homepage: "It's ready. The ProStationAudio architecture has been enhanced to make this non-linear editing software solution for AmigaOS even more powerful. And faster. The new version based on this design, ProStationAudio Titanium, is ready and will be on sale in a few days. While Amigas are wonderful systems, their main problem is lack of raw hardware horse-power: Titanium addresses this problem at design level, using optimizations independent on the host CPU, so that 68K (060 recommeded), PPC, and emulated 68K hardware benefit." Read more about its new features here.
ProStationAudio architecture for 2002 : Comment 1 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Brecht [darklite] on 02-Nov-2001 12:43 GMT
It would be nice to see developers (at least try to) support the x86 API where needed. I think Prostation is a good example of an app that could benefit from this.
ProStationAudio architecture for 2002 : Comment 2 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Nov-2001 13:25 GMT
Idea:
- Amiga Inc. provides API and developer support to Audiolabs...
- A new 'killer app' is born
- Advertised in music mags to people who want 'a solution'.
...or would that sell (shock,horror!) too many Amigas?! ;-)
ProStationAudio architecture for 2002 : Comment 3 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Alan Watson on 02-Nov-2001 13:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Anonymous):
Great idea.The one BIG think lacking from an end user's point of view in OS4+ in any 'serious' apps.ProStation Audio fits this bill along with Realsoft4D,Photogenics,SoundFX,plus a couple of others.This needs to run on OS4+
ProStationAudio architecture for 2002 : Comment 4 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Alan Watson on 02-Nov-2001 13:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Brecht [darklite]):
Why???I'm guessing you mean for Amithlon?
If developers start using the x86 api,then what's the point in OS4 or the A1?
We'll all be running emulated 400mhz 060's on OS3.9.Woop-e-doo....Bad idea.
Talk about living in the past.
If you didn't mean Amithlon,then ignore what I just said.
ProStationAudio architecture for 2002 : Comment 5 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 02-Nov-2001 13:48 GMT
Does altivec help in audio processing in any way?
ProStationAudio architecture for 2002 : Comment 6 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 02-Nov-2001 14:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (priest):
Yes, this is exactly the kind of thing Altivec is good at. According
to a Mac expert, Cubase, Logic Audio and Digital Performer all take
advantage of Altivec. His recommendation is for a Mac with 2 G4
processors.
ProStationAudio architecture for 2002 : Comment 7 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Nov-2001 14:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Don Cox):
ProStationAudio could run very well on Morphos on Pegasos with 2 G4 CPUs ...
ProStationAudio architecture for 2002 : Comment 8 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 02-Nov-2001 15:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Don Cox):
hmmm... One work mate said he ran the tasks of 2 multicore 350Mhz DSP's in single 800Mhz G4... I quess I would not need Delfinas DSP then...
ProStationAudio architecture for 2002 : Comment 9 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by sutro on 02-Nov-2001 15:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Anonymous):
Would certainly prefer that than using x86 architecture. We need a new Amiga OS though, and I don't mean AmigaOS4 (we need at least AmigaOS 5, NOW).
ProStationAudio architecture for 2002 : Comment 10 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Brecht [darklite] on 02-Nov-2001 15:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Alan Watson):
I meant an x86 version next to the 68k and PPC versions.
ProStationAudio architecture for 2002 : Comment 11 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Alan Watson on 02-Nov-2001 15:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Brecht [darklite]):
I'm sure that they're doing a x86 port.Might be wrong though...
ProStationAudio architecture for 2002 : Comment 12 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Nov-2001 16:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Anonymous):
IS MorphOS a SMP-ready OS? Last thing I heard is that the Amiga sandbox cannot
make use of multiprocessing. Anyone knows more?
ProStationAudio architecture for 2002 : Comment 13 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Brecht [darklite] on 02-Nov-2001 16:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Alan Watson):
I said "It would be nice to see ..."
sigh
ProStationAudio architecture for 2002 : Comment 14 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Emmanuel Lesueur on 02-Nov-2001 17:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Anonymous):
Anonymous writes:
A> IS MorphOS a SMP-ready OS? Last thing I heard is that the Amiga
A> sandbox cannot make use of multiprocessing. Anyone knows more?
Quark is SMP-ready, but the emulation box is not.
ProStationAudio architecture for 2002 : Comment 15 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Luther Blissett on 02-Nov-2001 22:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Anonymous):
Um, I went and downloaded the demo and was very impressed, especially
as previous versions didn't seem to like my system and would always
lock up after a few minutes. It seems it was the screen mode I
selected under CGX (so set the tooltype, kids!). It's pretty nippy on
an '060, but imagining PSA running on a G4 is fairly mouth-watering.
However, I then looked at the price, and my heart sank somewhat - $125
for the cheapest version is a little out of my reach right now; but
it's probabaly worth it.
ProStationAudio architecture for 2002 : Comment 16 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Nov-2001 23:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Emmanuel Lesueur):
>Quark is SMP-ready, but the emulation box is not.
>
So what is the use of this SMP kernel when you cannot use it for applications?
To build in 2 years a new OS on top of it?
Run multiple instances of Amigasandbox for multiuser capability?
Run different OS' at the same time on this kernel?
ProStationAudio architecture for 2002 : Comment 17 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Brecht [darklite] on 03-Nov-2001 00:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Anonymous):
maybe run all ppc native apps?
I take it the emulation of 68k apps is one task, like a ppc native task.
ProStationAudio architecture for 2002 : Comment 18 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 03-Nov-2001 08:54 GMT
PSA a killer App? Well its for sure a very good one, especially on the Amiga. But I am afraid it can in NO WAY
compete with Cubase (with its hundreds of killer-plugins)or Logic.
If you are aware of any advantages, tell me :-)
ProStationAudio architecture for 2002 : Comment 19 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Emmanuel Lesueur on 03-Nov-2001 12:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Anonymous):
> So what is the use of this SMP kernel when you cannot use it for
> applications?
The point is that multiprocessor support is not something you can add
afterwards to a system that has not been thought with that in mind.
You have to put it there from the start, just like e.g. memory
protection.
For the emulation box, it's not useful, but when things start moving
to the Quark side, they'll take advantage of it.
One way to use it currently would be to have a task from the
box delegate CPU-intensive computations to quark threads doing that
would do no I/O. But this is not documented yet.
ProStationAudio architecture for 2002 : Comment 20 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by djnick on 03-Nov-2001 23:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Anonymous):
PSA is Xcellent, but for me it is still not close to Reason (!!! the BEST music program in the world)
or Cubase (yeah)...
I'd be more interested in it when (and IF) they will create most-wanted
PPC plugIN - "reverb"...
I don't get it - why they can't create reverb on Amiga? :((
ProStationAudio architecture for 2002 : Comment 21 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 04-Nov-2001 10:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (djnick):
You hit the nail on the head! Reverb and Amiga is like a curse.
I always wonder why nobody tries to adapt the MacOS PPC Cubase
plugin-API to AmigaOS/AHI/PSA, so that one could use lots of
existing plugins!
ProStationAudio architecture for 2002 : Comment 22 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Martin Blom on 04-Nov-2001 15:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Anonymous):
Because nobody asked?
ProStationAudio architecture for 2002 : Comment 23 of 23ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 05-Nov-2001 08:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Martin Blom):
So what about it, Martin? Do you consider trying it? Would be greaaattt!
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