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[News] Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive UpdateANN.lu
Posted on 23-Dec-2001 23:06 GMT by Christian Kemp319 comments
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Bill McEwen gives holiday wishes, an Amiga progress report, videos of AmigaDE running on various devices and, a surprise in his latest of his soon-to-be monthly Executive Updates. Read the Executive Update here.
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 1 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by Frederik Yssing on 23-Dec-2001 22:31 GMT
This is extremly good news :)
Just the christmascard I needed..
Kind regards og the best of luck...
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 2 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by Crispy Beef on 23-Dec-2001 23:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Frederik Yssing):
Very nice to see the DE player actually running on a range of devices, they could have found someone that could play Planet Zed though ;)
Crispy
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 3 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by tommy (amigo) on 23-Dec-2001 23:07 GMT
Thats fantastic :))) gives me hope for Amiga now at the end of the year, Hopefully we will get os4 the beginning of the coming year afterall, but im just glad to know theyre actually doing something. Merry Christmas, Holidays, etcetc, to everyone by the way, even you BL4F. Take it easy everyone! :)))
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 4 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by Brecht [darklite] on 23-Dec-2001 23:27 GMT
heh. Throw in a few superlatives and the population is happy again...
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 5 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by Troels Ersking on 23-Dec-2001 23:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Brecht [darklite]):
Blah Blah Blah.......
Whats your problem Brecht? Everytime some people say/read/discousses something (positive) about Amiga you have to comment it in a negative way (always negative), why can't you just shut up once in a while?
I am being SO tired of you Brecht, why don't you start an emulator site or something, somewhere else, why not find some friends to share your .adf collection with?
Troels E
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 6 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by twiceaday on 24-Dec-2001 00:07 GMT
Happy xmas, things look brighter now! The future is here.
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 7 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by Skal Loret on 24-Dec-2001 00:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Troels Ersking):
Old guy with ponytail applauds Mr.Erskine from the cheap seats.
;')
-skal
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 8 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by Skal Loret on 24-Dec-2001 00:14 GMT
One more thing...
I can say, with assuredness, that the rumors of the death of AI have been *GREATLY* exagerated.
Now, the discerning reader must ask him or herself "Why would they say that?"
Ay, there's the rub...
-skal
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 9 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by redrumloa on 24-Dec-2001 00:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Brecht [darklite]):
Hey come on now. Why piss in our Cherios?
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 10 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by dammy on 24-Dec-2001 00:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (redrumloa):
Probably would make the cherios taste better then what's been spread over them from "The Name."
Dammy
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 11 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by 3seas on 24-Dec-2001 02:39 GMT
People....... who has any proof of anything that Bill wrote?
Who can use Logic to verify what you can't show proof of, one
way ofthe other?
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 12 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by amorel on 24-Dec-2001 02:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Troels Ersking):
Hey Troels, we should be happy, cause Bill blames the partial failure of amiga in on the 11-09 disaster.
They could have succeeded, if it wasn`t for those towers to tumble down.
Fucking low, that`s what I call that.
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 13 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by Douglas McLaughlin on 24-Dec-2001 02:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (3seas):
I know that what Bill said is true. I've seen it already. Don't worry, it's all real, it's coming, and soon. I can't hardly wait!
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 14 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by Douglas McLaughlin on 24-Dec-2001 02:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (amorel):
And here's the pot calling the kettle black.
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 15 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 24-Dec-2001 02:54 GMT
Sounds good. I'm not going to pick apart all the good bits (and much of the game plan noted this time is a restatement of what's been said in past months), so here are pokes at the interesting parts:
Via Google, Design Genetix's site: http://www.design-genetix.com/
Flash is required, and I don't have a full implementation, so I can't comment until the machine with a real Macromedia player frees up.
New DE developments always rock.
A little more Zen needs to be applied to creating the "two great products that'll go great together" image, and that falls to whoever's doing the brand-creation gig. Whenever [DE|AmigaOS] gets called something like 'crucial,' those more interested in [AmigaOS|DE] go "What about me!?," and there's got to be a clever way around that. :)
Now, the sudden call to evangelism is.. surprising.. and in response, I think the Amiga "community" is going to do what it does best- respond in a fragmented, unexpected manner, moving around vast quantities of conflicting and misinformed info- Many of us are nutjobs at heart, after all. ;) To harness the community to constructive ends, some sort of communication/guidance structure needs to be built, something that can keep evangelists informed of evangelism-related stuff, and allow for communal revision->consensus. The mailing lists are a start, but I'm thinking of a system that goes so far as to connect reporters with appropriate interviewees. (If anyone wants to bang heads about this on AmiGen, I'm game. :))
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 16 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by Missed an update/? on 24-Dec-2001 03:48 GMT
Ami2D ??? Any one got any info
[quote]
Whether it is raising money in the US, joint development with partners in the Far East, or developing Ami2D in Sweden and New Zealand, Amiga is truly a global, 24 hours a day company.
For instance, our new Ami2D services have been available to a select few for two months now. In fact, Pulsar Interactive's new AmigaDE game, Gobbler, was written using this technology. Ami2D is a very exciting development, and I believe that it will give DE developers a definite advantage over what other products can offer
[/quote]
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 17 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by Douglas McLaughlin on 24-Dec-2001 04:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Missed an update/?):
Ami2d is the 2d accellerated (when appropriate) application layer that takes advantage of whatever hardware is available or does it in software. It's coming along nicely. :-)
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 18 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by amigammc on 24-Dec-2001 04:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (3seas):
This game you're playing is quite annoying and I shouldn't even bother, but to make you all happy I'll bite... I spent 3 days at Amiga last month and what's being shown in the new Exec Update is nothing but the tip of the iceberg :)
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 19 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by amigammc on 24-Dec-2001 04:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Joe "Floid" Kanowitz):
Can we talk privately about this? I'm interested. Email me.
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 20 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by Mike Veroukis on 24-Dec-2001 04:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Douglas McLaughlin):
>Ami2d is the 2d accellerated (when appropriate) application layer that takes
>advantage of whatever hardware is available or does it in software. It's
>coming along nicely. :-)
Hey Douglas. You seem to know a fair bit more then the typical poster. How are you involved in all this? Are you a developer? Friend of a developer? just curious.
- Mike
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 21 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by 3seas on 24-Dec-2001 06:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Douglas McLaughlin):
And your word is proof?
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 22 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by Douglas McLaughlin on 24-Dec-2001 06:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (3seas):
When has it ever not been?
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 23 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by Douglas McLaughlin on 24-Dec-2001 06:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Mike Veroukis):
Participant.
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 24 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by 3seas on 24-Dec-2001 06:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (amigammc):
Amigammc "Can we talk privately about this? I'm interested. Email me."
Geee, though you said you spent 3 days at.....
Yeah, you can use current technology, even web based technology to fake
a system running on anything. You can even fake running Scala on Windows
using an Amiga as they did at a show they were promoting the Windows
version that was not yet done. From the projection screen you wouldn't
know it wasn't running on Windows. But I noticed the Keyboard and questioned
the speaker about it. Yep, there was an Amiga under the skit of the system stand.
logic.....
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 25 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by tommy (amigo) on 24-Dec-2001 07:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (3seas):
hey !!! sometinmes yo ujust ahve to trust peopl eyo uknow!!! im fucinng drunk but i stuill no what im talking abioot!!!!!!! i gues syo kno wbetter ??? eh? lets giev them benefit of the doubt im gonna buy amig ade player and a game just to do a little. damn ive emailesd a bunch complanies like about 50 so far and no i wasnt drunk then ok, and they wrot eback saying thank you for telling them abot amiga de caue they didnt evem know amiga was around so ther, ok well merry christams friend
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 26 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by tommy (amigo) on 24-Dec-2001 07:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (amorel):
hey thers a bit of a recessin yo know!!! alot of people are affected especially companies and he didnt just attribute it to that ok! ok well have a great new year,
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 27 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by tommy (amigo) on 24-Dec-2001 07:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Douglas McLaughlin):
yea! and thers the shit calling the piss stanky! yo tell im, ok take it easy,.
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 28 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by tommy (amigo) on 24-Dec-2001 07:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (amigammc):
ye ehhe!!! hehe, email tell me whats gong on if its alright if not ok, your still my brother take it easy bye,
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 29 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 24-Dec-2001 07:56 GMT
Nice to seem some news comeing out of Amiga Inc. Great to see the DE running on various devices and great to see various content developers and other partnership announced.
The future is looking much brighter, and for every month, will look just that little brighter also, which has made me very proud :).
Well done Bill, Merry Christmass and a happy new year. Now, give me OS4 :) *drools*
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 30 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by Rodney McDonell on 24-Dec-2001 07:57 GMT
Sorry for the second post :), forgot my name
Nice to seem some news comeing out of Amiga Inc. Great to see the DE running on various devices and great to see various content developers and other partnership announced.
The future is looking much brighter, and for every month, will look just that little brighter also, which has made me very proud :).
Well done Bill, Merry Christmass and a happy new year. Now, give me OS4 :) *drools*
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 31 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by smithy on 24-Dec-2001 08:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Troels Ersking):
>Whats your problem Brecht? Everytime some people say/read/discousses something
>(positive) about Amiga you have to comment it in a negative way (always
>negative), why can't you just shut up once in a while?
Which part of McEwan's statement was "positive"? It wasn't positive at all, the only positive thing - as far as you BAFs are concerned - is that he posted ANYTHING AT ALL!
>I am being SO tired of you Brecht, why don't you start an emulator site or
I am a bit tired of you and your posts too, however, for Christmas I simply ask for a "ignore-user" feature from Christian, rather than telling you to set up a site for Java resellers.
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 32 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by James Carroll on 24-Dec-2001 10:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (smithy):
Why do you need a ignore user function? Are you so weak willed that you cannot stop yourself from replying to comments from people you dont like?
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 33 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by Björn Hagström on 24-Dec-2001 10:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (smithy):
They do keep You happy though, don't they. They provide you with opportunities to cry out BAF and other cool stuff. Life must be good for ya dude.
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 34 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by Guru on 24-Dec-2001 11:02 GMT
<joke>
Hey, let's join the cult!! This certainly rulez! Let's spend all our money on DE apps and run out in the world, spred the word for our GOD Bill .. could you imagine a more perfect day? *lol*
</joke>
.. these guys really know how to do marketing :)
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 35 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by Frederik Yssing on 24-Dec-2001 11:21 GMT
Hey come on.
All you guess ever complain about, are the lack of Amiga news, here are some very good news, and guess what.
Some ppl just have to complain, this is good news, be happy for a change.
Come on, it is X-mas, why can't we just be happy ???
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 36 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Panagouleas on 24-Dec-2001 11:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Douglas McLaughlin):
Hi Douglas, nice to see that you are still developing for Amiga and keeping up. Are you developing any PPC apps?
Best regards
Bill Panagouleas
DiscreetFX
Developer of Pyromania
Real-time Fire effects for
Video Toaster & Amiga
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 37 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by amigammc on 24-Dec-2001 12:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (3seas):
Timmy boy,
as usual you don't understand a word of what is written, I asked him to contact me privately regarding possibilities to improve communication within the community.
We're all still waiting for that day when you stop interpreting your way what is clear to everyone else, Mr. Rue.
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 38 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 24-Dec-2001 12:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (Frederik Yssing):
We have heard this all before - in fact from this Amiga Inc. as well. You can't blame people for feeling it is too little, too late. It is nice that they posted, and I do hope they do in the future as well, but you can't expect people to receive them in an all-positive way until they actually ship and make good on all the promises broken.
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 39 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by José on 24-Dec-2001 13:09 GMT
As long as I have AmigaOS4 I'm happy:)
Good Christmas to all of you.
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 40 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 24-Dec-2001 14:02 GMT
Isn't Ami2D the official name of Picasso96 V3 native which is to be integrated
into OS4+?
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 41 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by Crispy Beef on 24-Dec-2001 14:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (Anonymous):
Well they did show progress with the mpegs of DE running on the different devices, and we only have to wait a few weeks now to see what's gonna happen with OS4, seeing as the date for that (from Hyperion) is supposed to be end of January, beginning of February. I think they have done a good job so far, especially with certain so called "community" members slagging them off. Right now I`m gonna wait and see before I pass any judgement.
Crispy.
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 42 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by RC on 24-Dec-2001 14:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (3seas):
Timmie, some of us are already using the sw mentioned...what do you need proof of?
Rember...it isn't really a spoon...
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 43 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by amigammc on 24-Dec-2001 15:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 40 (Anonymous):
Ami2D is for the DE, dunno if there's an equivalent for OS4, I'm more interested in DE stuff.
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 44 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by tinman on 24-Dec-2001 15:10 GMT
I must have missed something (in my attempt to read only the informative parts of Bill's wax), but what was the "New surprise" in the update?
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 45 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by RLFrost on 24-Dec-2001 15:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (tinman):
I certainly missed it as well. I am so scared that the wacko boys at Hyperion have locked us into a $2,000 game box.
I wish Amiga well. I shall desperately miss the daily hope that something reasonable in price and design will come from this mess. I'm afraid I ain't gonna buy an expensive new G5 machine to run software that I wouldn't own if it were free.
RLFrost
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 46 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by Douglas McLaughlin on 24-Dec-2001 15:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (Bill Panagouleas):
No PPC stuff. After A1 comes out, I might do some stuff on my own, though.
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 47 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by Douglas McLaughlin on 24-Dec-2001 16:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (tinman):
Design Genetix was the surprise.
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 48 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by Nathaniel Downes on 24-Dec-2001 16:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (3seas):
I could have done that years ago to "demonstrate" Eddas, but I'm more honest than that. Best to show what you have, now, than to show what "might" be, as it makes expectations that you might not be able to reach, which causes the very kind of backlash Amiga is suffering now.
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 49 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by 3seas on 24-Dec-2001 16:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (RC):
No you are not.
Amiga.com Dec 23th Executive Update : Comment 50 of 319ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Hermans/Hyperion on 24-Dec-2001 16:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 45 (RLFrost):
>I certainly missed it as well. I am so scared that the wacko boys at Hyperion >have locked us into a $2,000 game box.
What an absolutely ridiculous and baseless remark.
You're one of those x86 advocates right?
Feel free to run Amitlon, AmigaXL or UAE Forever or indeed Windows XP.
And remember: you get what you pay for.
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