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[News] Hyperion chat log availableANN.lu
Posted on 19-Feb-2002 15:22 GMT by Teemu I. Yliselä63 comments
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The log from yesterday's IRC chat with Hyperion has been posted on the AUG99 homepage here.
Hyperion chat log available : Comment 51 of 63ANN.lu
Posted by coldfire on 20-Feb-2002 22:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Nian):
Well hell...if you think the amiga sucks...go use your damn peecee and quit wasting our time.
coldfire
Hyperion chat log available : Comment 52 of 63ANN.lu
Posted by redrumloa on 20-Feb-2002 22:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 50 (NeRP):
Nerp:I thought you owned 2 Phase5 PPC accelerators?
Hyperion chat log available : Comment 53 of 63ANN.lu
Posted by Adam Kowalczyk on 20-Feb-2002 23:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 52 (redrumloa):
Nerp, your CSPPC's didn't die on you did they? If they did, send me an email. I'm planning some good hacking to fix mine and I'll end up with the world's fastest CSPPC, or deadest ;)
Adam
Hyperion chat log available : Comment 54 of 63ANN.lu
Posted by John Block on 20-Feb-2002 23:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (priest):
Everyone is working on retail pricing for components, we are buying
boxes made up by suppliers who will have bought in bulk.
Therefore, we are benefiting indirectly from bulk buying, even if the
bulk is relativly small.
The cost of a part retail may bare little comparison to the wholesale
cost.
Hyperion chat log available : Comment 55 of 63ANN.lu
Posted by Nian on 21-Feb-2002 00:22 GMT
Did someone say that the standard PPC amiga will be a G3 400mhz? Pft! Thats pathetic and can lick my ball sack. If were quoting 1000euro for a bottom of the line PPC amiga then you should all be shot out of mercy, The greatest all time problem the amiga has had is the mindset "We don't need as big a cpu because amigaos is so efficient." Bollocks! Sure amigaos will only use 5% of the cpu but then your lacking the real grunt to do heavy duty rendering / number crunching / games / java.... Realy the amiga deserves to get the biggest cpu you can get. and when the 1Ghz G4 is several times more expensive than the Athlon1800 and is still slightly slower. Well bugger that!
I use to love PPC, I swore by it every day to my friends. But sadly its not been
developed enough, its slow and too expensive. Perhaps if it was half the price and 50% faster it would be a great thing again to get, but at the moment its a nice design but out of most peoples league. It sorrows me that x86 is the only serious system for the masses but its the price we pay for 2 bankruptsies and a moth ridden sale. perhaps in time the amiga can become a great system again but let me ask you one simple question. Why can't the AmigaONE use a x86 cpu instead of the PPC? Sure the mobo with all its connections and ideas is nice. Hell having an a1200 stuck to it is kewl. but is it realy that hard to just use an Athlon as the cpu and not a PPC? We havn't made much PPC software Noone would cry much if they lost those apps/games. 68k emulation can run on anything so who has the stubborn self destruction suicidal desire to go ppc or bust?
Hyperion chat log available : Comment 56 of 63ANN.lu
Posted by NeRP on 21-Feb-2002 01:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 52 (redrumloa):
Errgh, sorry... my mistake. I was referring to a new MB either
way, like either Abit MB with AMD chip, or Pegasos with G4. I was
comparing them together as a cost factor. I'd rather go PPC
My 2 CSPPC's are doing fine :)
Hyperion chat log available : Comment 57 of 63ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 21-Feb-2002 01:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (smithy):
but if you take it all in context, the hyperion guys were talking specifically about Solaris on intel.
Hyperion chat log available : Comment 58 of 63ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 21-Feb-2002 06:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 55 (Nian):
I bet AmigaOS sucks only 0.1% of the CPU power. :)
Please let's forget x86 AmigaOS untill there is HAL.
Hyperion chat log available : Comment 59 of 63ANN.lu
Posted by FRANCISCO on 21-Feb-2002 11:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (Don Cox):
>There is absolutely nothing from Microsoft in an Amithlon computer,
>except the web fonts.
are you sure.the amithlon computer have not USB, USB is mainly a invebt of intel
and microsoft,and sure that in more part of the estandarts that are in a pc motherboard are touched for the hands of microsoft
Hyperion chat log available : Comment 60 of 63ANN.lu
Posted by JACEK on 21-Feb-2002 15:01 GMT
I simply don't understand what the hell is this whole discussion for?
Hyperion guys said they didn't want to support the pc architecture and that's it!
So if you love the x86 architecture so much, why don't you port Amios to that pccrap yourself?
Hyperion chat log available : Comment 61 of 63ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 21-Feb-2002 16:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 55 (Nian):
>Did someone say that the standard PPC amiga will be a G3 400mhz?
>Pft! Thats pathetic and can lick my ball sack.
>
True. I won't buy some spare G3 when there are cheap and new G4 available.
700 MHz G4 would be more to my likings.
>
>If were quoting 1000euro for a bottom of the line PPC amiga then you
>should all be shot out of mercy
>
Huh? 1000 Euro is a normal price for new PC systems. The figure was only
meant to show that it is possible to offer a PPC-PC in the same price range
as a x86 one (no, I haven't forgotten the performance differences... ;-).
>
>But hey lets try australian dollars for each system and forget your lame
>Euro ready?
>
What problem do you have with the most important currency in the Amiga market
and the secondmost in the world? With time even the .uk will adopt it, you'll
see! :-)
Hyperion chat log available : Comment 62 of 63ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 21-Feb-2002 16:27 GMT
Oh, and Nian...there is no such thing as a "kick ass 1.7Ghz AMD system".
1700 is just some bogus PR number, I hope you knew that.
Hyperion chat log available : Comment 63 of 63ANN.lu
Posted by Alkemyst on 22-Feb-2002 04:59 GMT
for at least the next 2 years or so i would say that 75% or higher of commercial Amiga SW will be ports.
well the games will be anyway.
& to say make a brandnew games title is asking a bit much atm as Amiga firms just dont have the £ to do that.
& the linux argument is valid as there are millions more linux users than Amiga users
but yet the Amiga versions sells more.
the linux ppl already had the windows version or went & got the windows version cheaply.
Amiga ppl with PC's next to them would not buy a port of a pc game to Amiga.
so then the only ppl who would of bought the PC ported games for there amiga
would be the ones with out a PC next to them.
so it seems there must be more Amiga only ppl out there than ppl think seeing as
the PC game Ports to Amiga out sell the linux versions.
so right now x86 AmigaOS would not change anything as far as SW sales,
the x86 AmigaOs would sell well but the ported SW would not as ppl would just boot into windows.
& to say that ppl have been doing that for in the past does not count cos
most of the Amiga SW was original, so you could not use the windows version anyway as there was none.
so ppl with Amiga& a pc still bought the Amiga title.
but things have changed now & ports will be most of the Amiga big SW now untill the firms get more £.
but only Amigappl with PPC will be supporting the near future AmigaSW sales, buying the ports.
then they may have the £ to make brand new titles then it makes more sence to have X86 AmigaOS
as to use that title you have to use AmigaX86 OS as there would be no windows version to begin with.
but you X86 ppl will not support them to get to that stage by buying the SW ports.
it will be money from the sales of ports to PPC. that will fund oridginal titles in the future.
& the ppc ppl will think its unfair that the X86AmigaOs ppl benefit when they did not support
amiga SW up untill then.
& to add for the short term AmigaPPC can live on ports
as AmigaOS4 will have the benefit of using the ported SW they have always wanted with the OS they like.
AmigaOSx86 ppl will have the OS they always wanted but not the SW as they domt want the ports when they have the windows version already.
ppl who are willing to buy one of the PPC mobos or G3/G4 cards, already know that they will be paying for ports at full price,
cost has always been high when it comes to Amiga & the same goes for the Mac.
when ppl are un willing to pay them prices no more they move on to a cheaper platform.
& if that platform dies then so be it. but it seems there still enough ppl willing as far as the Mac goes.
when someone moves from the Mac to the PC, they dont go around saying that PPC MAC should be dropped & macOS should go x86.
have to take the good with the bad, the good is cheap HW & good apps, the bad is the windowsOS.
that life.
when someone buys a RollsRoyce they take the good with the bad, the cost of fuel & up keep is the bad &
when they can no longer afford it they sell it & buy a cheaper car wich is not so nice.
they dont tell RollsRoyce that they should make cheaper cars.
you cant have your cake & eat it, only the rich can & PC ppl are not rich as thats why they cant
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