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[News] AmigaOne.5 name changeANN.lu
Posted on 19-Mar-2002 11:30 GMT by Christian Kemp26 comments
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"AmigaOne" wrote: AmigaOnepoint5 is now AmigaOneG3-SE which is very logical move. See this for more info.
AmigaOne.5 name change : Comment 1 of 26ANN.lu
Posted by Rik Sweeney on 19-Mar-2002 10:43 GMT
"Eyetech boycotts AmigaOnepoint5 name"
AmigaOne.5 name change : Comment 2 of 26ANN.lu
Posted by Lennart Fridén on 19-Mar-2002 10:56 GMT
Now all we need are the news items "Hyperion boycotts x86" and "ANN boycotts lamers".
AmigaOne.5 name change : Comment 3 of 26ANN.lu
Posted by Tony Gore on 19-Mar-2002 11:15 GMT
"AmigaOneG3-SE"
I like it! Makes sense.
AmigaOne.5 name change : Comment 4 of 26ANN.lu
Posted by Graham on 19-Mar-2002 11:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Tony Gore):
Agreed. I'm waiting for some troll to crack a witty joke about "Slow Edition" or something though.
Should clear up the AmigaOnePointFive problems that people have been having.
A nice descriptive name.
AmigaOne.5 name change : Comment 5 of 26ANN.lu
Posted by ID4 - tHe SurViVor - on 19-Mar-2002 11:24 GMT
Hey Friends, We must to say this:
Good work Eyetech, VERY GOOD WORK...
AmigaOne.5 name change : Comment 6 of 26ANN.lu
Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 19-Mar-2002 11:42 GMT
How about "Microsoft boycotts Amiga?" After all, Office 2000 hasn't come out for OS3.x- it could just be an oversight, of course..
On a vaguely more serious note, it'll be interesting to see how overclockable the chosen PPC core is, with the addition of a little thermal epoxy and a low-fi heatsink (something along the lines of a chipset cooler from the x86 scene, perhaps).. I can think of few undoable mechanisms for the installation of such a solution, so it should be fairly obvious whose warranties have been voided. :)
AmigaOne.5 name change : Comment 7 of 26ANN.lu
Posted by Seehund on 19-Mar-2002 12:24 GMT
"AmigaOnepoint5" never was a new name for Eyetech's boards. It was just to help distinguish this "new" board they're importing from "the Far East" from the old one which they were going to be involved in designing/manufacturing.
AmigaOne.5 name change : Comment 8 of 26ANN.lu
Posted by IanG on 19-Mar-2002 12:26 GMT
I know the info has been available for a while, but I've only just got round to reading the full waffle on the Eyetech site. I am VERY impressed.
C'mon you guys moaning about this or that interface is not the highest or latest spec. It's a helluva lot faster than anything we've got in our Amigas at the moment, and this is only the first shot at the boards. Buy one, even if you are just going to prop it against the wall, it shows the support and interest.
IMHO, this is the ONLY way the general "Amiga userbase", such as is left of it, can move forward. A system which is, if OS4 meets it's promises, largely compatible with what serious software we've got, yet offering potential to be so much more powerful.
The only doubt I have is whether full-spec drivers will be available for the cards we might want to use. I don't suppose we can persuade Matrox, NVidia, et al to write AmigaOne drivers.
AmigaOne.5 name change : Comment 9 of 26ANN.lu
Posted by Rik Sweeney on 19-Mar-2002 12:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (IanG):
NVidia no. Matrox maybe. There are opensource NVidia drivers for Linux but AFAIK they're not very good.
AmigaOne.5 name change : Comment 10 of 26ANN.lu
Posted by Graham on 19-Mar-2002 13:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Rik Sweeney):
Maybe the AROS GeForce drivers can be ported to AmigaOS.
They are very very early code though at the moment apparently though, and I doubt that 3D will ever be supported... but it could be enough to enable someone to work in 2D with reasonable accelleration with an nVidia card in the short term.
I would wait for OS4 before committing to a graphics card myself.
AmigaOne.5 name change : Comment 11 of 26ANN.lu
Posted by redrumloa on 19-Mar-2002 13:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (IanG):
Hyperion confirmed that Matrox was being extremely helpfull in providing info and support for them to write drivers. GOOD SIGN. Looks like Amiga's ancient partnership with Matrox means SOMETHING. Also don't forget ATI Radeon drivers are comming. I just hope the All-In-Wonder Radeon has all it's features working.
AmigaOne.5 name change : Comment 12 of 26ANN.lu
Posted by Rimmerz on 19-Mar-2002 13:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Rik Sweeney):
We dont need Nvidea drivers, Radeon 8500 is IMHO the best gfx card thats out there now! (an OC'ed 8500 beats the fastest Geforce4 Ti4600 in many tests!!)
AmigaOne.5 name change : Comment 13 of 26ANN.lu
Posted by Anders Kjeldsen on 19-Mar-2002 13:44 GMT
I guess that, eventually, Eyetech releases a Pegasos with an eyetech/amiga/amigaone sticker on it :)
AmigaOne.5 name change : Comment 14 of 26ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Mar-2002 14:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Graham):
I seem to have found the Troll. He's in message 4.
AmigaOne.5 name change : Comment 15 of 26ANN.lu
Posted by Graham on 19-Mar-2002 14:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Anonymous):
Hello Anonymous. Nice to hide behind your anonymity isn't it? It means we can't put a name to a person without a sense of humour. I'm sure that everyone here knows that I am pro AmigaOne and AmigaOS4 and AmigaAnywhere whether they agree with me or not (which is their right of course, as long as they don't post lies about whatever they disagree with), so of course I am not going to diss the AmigaOne or its name.
I am not Anti-Pegasos either, but I don't know that much about it or what is happening recently to it (probably being manufacturered right now?). Competition is good, although as a community we compete amongst ourselves very well - more than the old Amiga vs Atari slagging at any rate which is odd - surely it should be less serious and more jovial... pie in the sky dreams I expect...
I seem to have gone off at a tangent somewhere along the line, sorry.
AmigaOne.5 name change : Comment 16 of 26ANN.lu
Posted by Marcus on 19-Mar-2002 15:57 GMT
Uhh... Amiga hardware still has an incredibly high price! :-(
"Our recommended pricing for the AmigaOneG3-SE motherboard, inclusive of a 750CXe 600 MHz G3 PPC processor but exclusive of local taxes and shipping charges, is UKP350, USD500, EUR600."
This is almost twice as much as what you would pay for an AMD Athlon XP1800+, with a good motherboard with an onboard RAID controller and 266MHz FSB. And this setup beats the AmigaOneG3-SE setup hands-down.
Sad :-(
AmigaOne.5 name change : Comment 17 of 26ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Mar-2002 16:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Marcus):
oh shut up.
AmigaOne.5 name change : Comment 18 of 26ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Mar-2002 16:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Marcus):
Alright - let's record it is not an x86 beater.
But does this make it a bad nextgen Amiga?
AmigaOne.5 name change : Comment 19 of 26ANN.lu
Posted by Tony Gore on 19-Mar-2002 17:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Marcus):
"This is almost twice as much as what you would pay for an AMD Athlon XP1800+, with a good motherboard with an onboard RAID controller and 266MHz FSB."
Yeah, the scale of prodution makes that difference. Anything produced in that quantity will of course be cheaper and more features. Too bad you'll only be able to run Windows or Linux natively on that AMD box, LOL!
AmigaOne.5 name change : Comment 20 of 26ANN.lu
Posted by victor # on 19-Mar-2002 17:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Anonymous):
No, the troll is at comment 13...
AmigaOne.5 name change : Comment 21 of 26ANN.lu
Posted by Dr. Righteous on 19-Mar-2002 17:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Marcus):
Stick with Windoze then... And stay out of the Amiga scene! TROLL!
AmigaOne.5 name change : Comment 22 of 26ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 19-Mar-2002 18:41 GMT
/me found some troll killing gems
WOW ! these are good shit !
And neone who sez but i can buy a "insert poo`e amd system here" for less , take note , i have seen 500 mhz macs piss round tasks that would stick that mofo for weeks , hell the miggy one has on die cache "feel the burn" . Hell my O4ho 25mhz can make a p3 500 look like a speccy.
/me wants os 4 now to get this blizzard ppc into gear and ditch bloody cgx .
oh
/me also wants a miggy one , someone good with and soldering iron and a couple spare g4 1ghz ooooh baby :), not that it doesn`t rawk already :)
BTw. the amiga one is also going to cost less to insure cuz its not going to burn down your house . Reason their cheaper is not because AMD / <insert other pc companies here> like you , its because their making it for F*ck all then selling it to you at huge profits !
AmigaOne.5 name change : Comment 23 of 26ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Mar-2002 19:28 GMT
from now on I boycot all the trolls
eee...
and goblins
AmigaOne.5 name change : Comment 24 of 26ANN.lu
Posted by Marcus on 20-Mar-2002 00:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Dr. Righteous):
> Stick with Windoze then... And stay out of the Amiga scene! TROLL!
What's wrong with you? I did merely make an observation of facts.
After all, the hefty price of Amiga hardware is something people have been complaining about for the last 10 years.
I was very happy when the AmigaOne was promised to be dirt cheap because it consisted almost entirely of off-the-shelf parts. It is indeed much cheaper than much of the hardware seen in the last 10 years, but unfortunately it still quite expensive by today's standards.
I do understand why this is the case, but I still think it'd be nice if it was more on par with other hardware today. Please do tell me why it is wrong of me to wish for the AmigaOne to be cheaper!
AmigaOne.5 name change : Comment 25 of 26ANN.lu
Posted by Tony Gore on 20-Mar-2002 01:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Marcus):
" Please do tell me why it is wrong of me to wish for the AmigaOne to be cheaper!"
It's not wrong, man, we all want things to hurry up and start happening. If we can get a few more companies offering PPC boards and systems that meet AmigaOne specs (and if the initial systems sell well), then you will start to see prices drop, kinda like what was happening in the Mac clone market before Jobs killed the Mac clones off.
These are revolutionary times for the Amiga market. After all, this is the first PPC system that could run a consumer level OS other than the Mac. For the first time ever, OEM's will be able to build and supply systems that can run the Amiga OS. This has the potential to start a new trend in the computing world. I think it will lead to innovation and lower priced systems in the long run, but not immediately. What if a few companies like IBM (who should be happy to license a consumer OS for their PPC chips) decided they wanted to build and sell Amiga clones running Amiga OS4? It would explode our market and things would really start to heat up. Give it some time. At least things are finally starting to happen. It's kinda expensive now, but nowhere near as much as the old upgrades for the classic line. Let's just buy the hardware and cheer on a new time in personal computing that can only get better (and cheaper) with time.
AmigaOne.5 name change : Comment 26 of 26ANN.lu
Posted by windtalkers on 20-Mar-2002 02:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Marcus):
>It is indeed much cheaper than much of the hardware seen in the
>last 10 years, but unfortunately it still quite expensive by
>today's standards.
What are todays standards? It's not a PC therefore you cannot compare it to a PC, it's an Amiga so compare it to other Amigas. It is dirty cheap because it's a miracle if Eyetech will sell 5,000 units. And you're telling me that 5,000 units should cost as much as 1,000,000 of another system?
Go to a car dealer, tell him you want to buy a car, then tell him you want to buy 1,000 cars and see if the price per unit is the same.
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