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[News] GoldED developer leaves the AmigaANN.lu
Posted on 04-Apr-2002 20:44 GMT by Teemu I. Yliselä27 comments
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Dietmar Eilert writes on his homepage: "I regret to inform AmigaOS users that all software on this web site is now discontinued (due to lack of time on my side to continue with AmigaOS software development)." Intellectual property rights related to GoldED are now on sale whilst the Distributed BASIC interpreter will be released under GPL.
GoldED developer leaves the Amiga : Comment 1 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse (195.93.48.178) on 04-Apr-2002 19:32 GMT
Its a real shame to hear this , but maybe hyperion can getta ppc version of goldED included in os 4 , hint hint :)
GoldED developer leaves the Amiga : Comment 2 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by darklite (213.177.139.89) on 04-Apr-2002 19:56 GMT
Well, this was bound to happen... the last GoldED versions had alot of Windows features...
Still, sad to hear another developer leaving :(
GoldED developer leaves the Amiga : Comment 3 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Kent Seaton (64.216.141.35) on 04-Apr-2002 20:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (darklite):
Though I've never been much of a fan of GoldEd past v4 it's definately sad to see the development discontinue. GoldEd is definately one of the few KillerApps on the Amiga. I wonder how much he will offer the intellectual property for.
GoldED developer leaves the Amiga : Comment 4 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by 4pLaY (212.45.160.69) on 04-Apr-2002 20:36 GMT
Im sure he wants loads of money for it! more then any Joe Amiga can pay! but maybe hyperion and the likes can license it or something.
GoldED developer leaves the Amiga : Comment 5 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by kevin orme (192.84.231.231) on 04-Apr-2002 23:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (4pLaY):
amen, it's really good, would be a great bundle with a new AmigaOne - is snoqualmie listening? There is going to have to be some good stuff bundled with these computers as a sales incentive, or they ain't gonna be sellin, boys. I'm hoping that read3d for OS4.0 will be done by then, has anyone heard anything on that front?
kevin orme
amiga university
www.amigau.com
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Posted by StAn (62.212.119.153) on 05-Apr-2002 00:27 GMT
GPL... :-(
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Posted by anonymous (80.248.112.98) on 05-Apr-2002 04:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (StAn):
> GPL... :-(
GoldEd is not GPL.
GoldED developer leaves the Amiga : Comment 8 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Bifford the Youngest (62.253.64.7) on 05-Apr-2002 05:13 GMT
I'm really sorry to see GoldEd and its author disapear from the Amiga way of things. I bought GoldEd at version 6 and with the more recent WebUpdates etc its become a brilliant program.
I had been in contact via email with him a while back and he had said that work was moving still on its development so its a real shame hes now leaving ;(
I *really* hope Amiga Inc do buy the Ip for this program and incorporate it into future OSs because, as you all said already it would make a brilliant part of a starter pack.
TTFN
Biff.
GoldED developer leaves the Amiga : Comment 9 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (195.212.29.167) on 05-Apr-2002 07:43 GMT
He can have 13 Euros for it.
GoldED developer leaves the Amiga : Comment 10 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Darius Brewka (62.104.223.66) on 05-Apr-2002 08:15 GMT
i've bought GoldED in a very early Version and (1992/3???), and soon after
this D.E. writes he wants to move to the PC.
Making money as much is possible, nothing more.
regards
GoldED developer leaves the Amiga : Comment 11 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by José (193.136.227.205) on 05-Apr-2002 08:57 GMT
Shame, shame. At least he could give Amiga companies priority to buying the IP. But we don't know if he does or not.
GoldED developer leaves the Amiga : Comment 12 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by denny boy (212.36.181.65) on 05-Apr-2002 09:12 GMT
i wrote asking what his price was - this was his reply:-
Before I start answering your questions, I have to point out that,
while
I'm not asking for a specific price but will look at all serious
offers, I
don't think that the package is affordable for individual developers.
If you
speak for a company, please contact me again.
GoldED developer leaves the Amiga : Comment 13 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by DaveW (194.196.100.52) on 05-Apr-2002 11:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (denny boy):
Well it aint a patch on kdevelop ....;-) [starts flame war along the lines of >>if I can get this for free why should I pay for that<< ]
GoldED developer leaves the Amiga : Comment 14 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (137.201.242.130) on 05-Apr-2002 12:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (DaveW):
*yawn*
Take your pathetic flamewars and shove them where the sun doesn't shiney.
People round here are trying to have a civilised discussion. Feel free to come back once you grow up, flameboy.
*sigh*
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Posted by Anonymous (62.6.66.162) on 05-Apr-2002 14:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (StAn):
And What's wrong with the GPL, trollboy?
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Posted by Budda (62.252.192.6) on 05-Apr-2002 16:27 GMT
Doesn't GoldED suck though?
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Posted by Dietmar Eilert (172.184.140.171) on 05-Apr-2002 16:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (José):
>Shame, shame. At least he could give Amiga companies priority to buying the IP. But we don't know if he does or not
GoldED developer leaves the Amiga : Comment 18 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by [JC] (62.252.64.6) on 05-Apr-2002 18:09 GMT
I preferred CygnusED myself. There is a program on the PC called TextPad that has a lot of CED's features which is written by "Helios Software Solutions" - makes me wonder if CED's authors have anything to do with it.
GoldED developer leaves the Amiga : Comment 19 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (172.176.37.214) on 05-Apr-2002 18:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 ([JC]):
Exactly what kind of interesting features does CED have ? Last time I looked I didn't see even basic stuff like folding or syntax highlighting. There was no particular support for software development (like locating functions, online help system, incremental search), no serious user interace, no modes, you name it. It did have cool scrolling under ECS but on Amigas with gfx cards, it used to be way slower than GoldED. I'm not including Olaf's versions here, never saw the later ones (and I remember the scrolling code in Term to be quite good, if he brought that to CED, things probably got much better).
GoldED developer leaves the Amiga : Comment 20 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by StAn (62.212.118.103) on 05-Apr-2002 18:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Anonymous):
CEd 4.20 scrolls very fast on gfx boards :)
True, Ced lacks many features.. But it's still the best editor I could find on Amiga. And I tried a lot of them...
Online help can be implemented via the very complete Arexx port of Ced.
GoldED developer leaves the Amiga : Comment 21 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (172.176.37.214) on 05-Apr-2002 19:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (StAn):
> True, Ced lacks many features.. But it's still the best editor
Enlighten me, what are your reasons to say that ? It's ok but not "best" material in my eyes. I've tried many, too, and beyond being small it eludes me what's so good about it (and while small used to be good in the old days, today I couldn't care less, just give me lots of features, please). For example, in the same class (small, not fancy, rather restricted set of features) there used to be TurboText, FrexxEd and some other contenders. I consider FrexxEd the best one here, TurboText and CED both having too many serious missing features (no undo in the case of TT, see above regarding CED).
GoldED developer leaves the Amiga : Comment 22 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by .jon (145.236.119.108) on 06-Apr-2002 01:47 GMT
i've bought GoldED in a very early Version and (1992/3???), and soon after
this D.E. writes he wants to move to the PC.
Making money as much is possible, nothing more.
Please enlighten me: How can "ten years later" be "soon" !?
About the other post "CED best editor for Amiga"
I do not understand this: CED might have been snappy and well layed out. But it had not a tenth of GoldED features.
I bought regulare GED keyfiles from Dietmar myself, starting with GED3 and never found any editor better on any OS (I use Emacs on Linux). The only alternative for me would be FrexxED, which is a brilliant piece of software itself.
It is a shame, FrexxED never got ported to Win or Lin.
GoldED sucked out of two reasons: No real TAB before GED 5 or 6 and Dietmar broke the APIs with every major release, rendering excellent and brilliant Add-Ins useless, some of his own (how nice was it to use DEBUG with other languages than C, it had an ARexx port to enable so) and how bad all the nice LaTeX parsers, scanners broke....
GoldED developer leaves the Amiga : Comment 23 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous (172.184.195.74) on 06-Apr-2002 03:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (.jon):
> [...] broke the APIs with every major release [...] and how bad all the nice LaTeX parsers, scanners broke....
I believe that was an issue of the developers of those things not keeping up with the editor development (because they left the Amiga).
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Posted by Keith Blakemore-Noble (62.253.64.7) on 06-Apr-2002 07:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (.jon):
"broke the APIs with every major release, rendering excellent and brilliant Add-Ins useless"
Sounds like Linux to me! :-P
It's a shame to see GoldEd no longer developed (although I can understand why). It is, IMHO, *the* best text editor I have ever seen on any platform, and I definitly never regretted buying or updating.
It would be nice if some other group took over and maintained / developed it, but even if they don't then at least it is very powerful in its current state so it remains extremely usable.
GoldED developer leaves the Amiga : Comment 25 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by DaveW (195.92.168.167) on 06-Apr-2002 09:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Anonymous):
>Take your pathetic flamewars and shove them where the sun doesn't shiney.
> People round here are trying to have a civilised discussion. Feel free to
> come back once you grow up, flameboy.
Dont they have sarcasm in dipshitville?
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Posted by StAn (62.212.118.154) on 06-Apr-2002 23:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Anonymous):
Let me rephrase... CEd is the text editor that suits me best.
Actually, it kind of sucks (no auto indenting, no folding, no syntax colouring, weird non-configurable menues and key shortcuts, non iconifiable, etc.).
But the others I tried where, as far as *I* am concerned, worse.
FrexxEd looked very interesting; I tried it... But I didn't understand how to use it. Call me stupid if you will...
GoldED developer leaves the Amiga : Comment 27 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Hrw (217.153.65.42) on 08-Apr-2002 13:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Keith Blakemore-Noble):
"It's a shame to see GoldEd no longer developed (although I can understand why). It is, IMHO, *the* best text editor I have ever seen on any platform, and I definitly never regretted buying or updating. "
I used GoldED version 4.7x and CED 4.20 - 1st for programming 2nd for articles writing and small scripts editing (CED had faster start). Ged lacks TABs before V5 but V5/V6 was too Windoze (those cltr-c/v/x instead lamiga-c/v/x was uncomfortably) so after trying them I switched back to GED4 and CED.
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