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Posted on 12-Apr-2002 14:57 GMT by Christophe Decanini134 comments
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It is not really news but I would like to mention for the people that missed it that Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck recently posted on ANN here and there. It looks like they will have an important role in the distribution of the Pegasos system.
Thendic looks to be the industrial partner that got the beta board 2 month ago (it was told by Ralph Schmidt on the MorphOS mailing list).
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 1 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by darklite on 12-Apr-2002 13:16 GMT
Nice to know they're still in the Amiga world.
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 2 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 12-Apr-2002 13:20 GMT
bought phase 5 hardware once ... never again ...
used phase 5 software before ... never again ...
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 3 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 12-Apr-2002 13:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (darklite):
huh ? they`ve defected to the mos/Dce/bplan crew numb nuts.
Its bad to see petro in with people that have before produced
crappy hardware and an even worse ppc kernel, but then again
halfbright being such an amigan u`d know the trouble and shit
stirring these people have done before ;).
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 4 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Christophe Decanini on 12-Apr-2002 13:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (cOrpse):
I hate to do that Corpse but you really are clueless.
I would really like to know what you have achieved in your life except insulting people on Amiga forums like you are doing.
I guess every group has its village idiot.
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 5 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by darklite on 12-Apr-2002 13:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (cOrpse):
Without Phase5 you wouldn't even be here. Show people the respect they deserve.
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 6 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by corpse on 12-Apr-2002 14:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (darklite):
@ comment 4 and 5 :
"I guess every group has its village idiot." huh ? so we`re aloud to complain about microsoft but not arses in the amiga scene that made crappy products ?
Your the idiot in this sitution .
Darklite ? respect people that ripped us off ? not likely.
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 7 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 12-Apr-2002 14:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Christophe Decanini):
"I would really like to know what you have achieved in your life except insulting people on Amiga forums like you are doing." - I think i`m pretty right to insult pc hoes that try to run the place , and even tell dev`ers like hyperion what to do without a clue which darklite has tried many times.
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 8 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 12-Apr-2002 14:27 GMT
What a miserable show Amigans, or people/companies trying to make something on the Amiga market are giving...
This is so pathetic.
This has become completely irrealistic and stupid.
Poor Jay Miner, your machine is now the toy of a bunch of idiots.
May you rest in peace...
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 9 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by leif on 12-Apr-2002 14:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (cOrpse):
well, I guess their products cant be protected against
braindead users like you. And no, Im not a MOS-evangelist.
I just think you are an idiot.
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 10 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Linchpin on 12-Apr-2002 14:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (cOrpse):
Ok we all know it now you hate p5.
You've made you're point!
There's no need to keep repeating the fact that you
hate P5.
Now I'm off to play Payback PPC/W3D which runs extremely
well on my P5 PPC card and will probably run a lot better
on a pegasos G3/G4..
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 11 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Ole-Egil Hvitmyren on 12-Apr-2002 14:41 GMT
The worst is that every single thread seems to deteriorate into an argument between at most 4 people with no problem reaching 150 posts...
\begin{rhetorical}
Why does _everything_ have to be commented to death? Isn't it possible that you _do not agree, but let it be with that_? Don't you people realize that _we have heard your arguments already, so you aren't actually contributing anything_?
\end{rhetorical}
No, I don't say anyone should stop posting here, but if you are going to post a "like I have told you here and privatly a zillion times before"-message, that in itself should tell you that maybe the other people here have already read your argument. I'm no MOS fanatic, in fact I support AI/Eyetech/Hyperion as much as I can. But I wish bPlan all luck with their projects, because they have very interesting projects indeed.
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 12 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 12-Apr-2002 14:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Linchpin):
Better play it quick before it crashes and takes itself and the amiga`s mobo with it.
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 13 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Mark Olsen on 12-Apr-2002 14:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (cOrpse):
> huh ? they`ve defected to the mos/Dce/bplan crew numb nuts.
> Its bad to see petro in with people that have before produced
> crappy hardware and an even worse ppc kernel, but then again
Could you please explain exactly how powerup is worse than WarpOS?
I'd like some technical info and examples, which I am sure you have, since you make such an statement.
Also, try not to insult all people you reply to. It's really boring.
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 14 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by kriz on 12-Apr-2002 15:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (cOrpse):
just because you had some phase5 equipment that wasnt stable doesnt mean that all phase5 ppc cards are unstable ...
please, be a little bit serious. (and think...!)
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 15 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 12-Apr-2002 15:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (cOrpse):
So you have statistics of p5 hardware?
Really strange that my card is one of the first produced BPPC and also BVisions
and it still works after so many years...
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 16 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by catohagen on 12-Apr-2002 15:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Mark Olsen):
>Could you please explain exactly how powerup is worse than WarpOS?
"PowerUp is more appealing to developers and WarpOS is more appealing to AmigaOS"
I know I've read this someplace, just don't remember where....What else can
cause that WarpOS is most used, and tools like Piru's Blizkick have
the 'bppcfix' module.....as the name says, it 'fixes' the blizzppc :)
Several tools exists on aminet to remove PowerUP...so why so many tools
to remove powerup ?
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 17 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 12-Apr-2002 15:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (catohagen):
>What else can cause that WarpOS is most used
Because people wanted to use Amiga hunk code and not that silly, bad elf (at
least that was one of the main arguments, it's more Amiga-like than elf).
BTW: What does OS4 use? ;P
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 18 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by leif on 12-Apr-2002 15:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (catohagen):
Last time I checked Phase5 (the ones developing PowerUP)
went out of buissiness. And it was pretty long ago now.
That could be one reason for PUP beeing "assimilated" :)
I would think the systems where pretty equal, P5s beeing the
first and original. Then there was problems cooperating
between the two companies, P5 didnt wanna fight anymore
and concentrated on what they probably did better (HW)
and H&P won the battle.
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 19 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 12-Apr-2002 15:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (cOrpse):
Ok... got it... You're not just an asshole... You're more than that...
Shut up and fuck off. You're completely clueless. We had AmiFan, but he had
some clue about what he was talking about... You really got out of control
Now, you claim that it's your card's fault that your system is unstable.
BUT, when I told you that executive crashes with warpos, you told me that
it was my system's problem, and that it doesn't crash.
Am I stupid for telling you that it crashes? I have a shitload of PPC card
experience (as a user) and know what crashes and what doesn't.
I hope I won't ever see you as a "fellow" tester in any of the "sides".
I don't want any software being delayed till death cause the system of a tester
is unstable. I wouldn't blame you if your HW was faulty, but I blame you for not
listening when I tell you why it is unstable.
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 20 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 12-Apr-2002 15:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (darklite):
All the Phase5 boards I've used (about 20 altogether) have been
excellent. I haven't used any of their A1200 boards.
As the BPlan designers seem to be the same people, I expect the
Pegasos to be a well designed board. (I also expect the A1.5 to be
good, as it's from a specialist company in Taiwan).
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 21 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Amifan on 12-Apr-2002 15:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
You really piss me off, f#cking looser...
If you got something to say to me then adress me directly instead of some lowly under the belt comment which only the real lamers do.
But then again...argumenting is not you strong point...Guess I finally found what you're good at.
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 22 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 12-Apr-2002 15:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Amifan):
I didn't say anything bad about you... I said that we had another P5 bashing person in here. You. And I also say that you, knew what you were talking about
unlike him. I can't see any offence here...
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 23 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by DaveW on 12-Apr-2002 15:49 GMT
Im not bothered one way or the other about MorphOS or BPlan. What I do think tho is that Petro, knowing his influence, should have declared his commercial interest in this before making that touching eulogy about Amiga Super Brains on the other thread.
I also find the claim that without PowerUP we wouldnt be here without any credibility whatsoever. If PowerUP had been a better executed plan we would be in a better state that we were but PhaseV consistently undersupplied and did a very poor job of after sales service *for whatever reason*. Given the amount of software on the Amiga that is PPC capable this is also a less than credible argument.
The overwhelming majority of remaining Amiga users are still Im afraid either x86 or 68k. I want to see that change.
As a customer of PhaseV and DCE I should have an axe to grind, I dont. But I dont want to see them lauded as the saints - when they are not.
TTFN and flame away children.
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 24 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 12-Apr-2002 15:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
BTW, sorry if you felt offended, I should make the "example" more clear...
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 25 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 12-Apr-2002 16:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
trying to use experience to prove ur case doesn`t help u.
I have had this ppc kill 2 mobo`s and a set of ks3.1 roms , no executive
doesn`t crash it ... when the card is cooled with 2 psu fans it runs pretty
well ; like it should out of the box ! Its called "badly designed hardware" , i think alot of u are slap happy to complain about windows ME (etc.. ) and pc hardware and all too naive to complain about getting ripped off for amiga stuff , if its a bad product its a bad product full stop.
If they were so well made why did so many of them go back to Phase5/DCE never to return ?
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 26 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by DaveW on 12-Apr-2002 16:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (cOrpse):
Although it pains me to admit it I think you are right. Ive had two brand new mobos die due to a faulty accellerator card - I had a long technical explanation from the repairer ( UK ) - which resulted in me "binning" my 240Mhz PPC card for a brand new PPC card. Since getting the brand new card I havent had a problem. Thinking I was given the wrong advice I made the mistake of ressurecting my old 240 card and giving it to a mate at work. I said at your own risk. Within a week his mobo was toast. Or at least something so fundamental when it is started all we get is a black screen - just like my two!
Draw your own conclusions but I think a number of faulty cards went out there.
Dave.
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 27 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 12-Apr-2002 16:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (cOrpse):
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have had this ppc kill 2 mobo`s and a set of ks3.1 roms , no executive.
How did it kill em? I suppose it was a power problem...
But, again... It's the first time I have heard of ANY card killing a motherboard....
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 28 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 12-Apr-2002 16:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (DaveW):
Ok, make that 2:) sorry:)
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 29 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by DaveW on 12-Apr-2002 16:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Alkis.
Chalk up another couple to that. If you look at the edge connector specs on the A1200 you might end up wondering how these companies can design a card so well that it *doesnt* trash parts of the motherboard. ;-)
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 30 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 12-Apr-2002 16:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (DaveW):
>Draw your own conclusions but I think a number of faulty cards went out there.
Sure. If you sell more than 10 000 cards then there are always some cards faulty.
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 31 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 12-Apr-2002 16:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (DaveW):
What do you mean?
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 32 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Mark Olsen on 12-Apr-2002 16:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (catohagen):
>>Could you please explain exactly how powerup is worse than WarpOS?
>"PowerUp is more appealing to developers and WarpOS is more appealing to AmigaOS"
>I know I've read this someplace, just don't remember where....What else can
>cause that WarpOS is most used, and tools like Piru's Blizkick have
>the 'bppcfix' module.....as the name says, it 'fixes' the blizzppc :)
>Several tools exists on aminet to remove PowerUP...so why so many tools
>to remove powerup ?
"More people use it, so it MUST be better!"
I take it you're a Windows fan?
It is the most widely used OS, so it must be better?
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 33 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 12-Apr-2002 16:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (DaveW):
"Although it pains me to admit it I think you are right." - No reason to feel pain admiting it ... Altho many of you probaly take me as some kind of extremist that is not the case. But like the rest of the British public we don`t like getting taken for a ride. Products from these people have caused me serious pain deep down ... killed one mobo just to kill another ! :( .
I`ve had to use a windows/linux/bsd etc .. (i`ve tried almost everything ;) ) box for about a year and 1/2 trying to find the funds for a new mobo and that has to some left me deeply bitter.. u would be.
And if we`re gonna have a fight over experience , i`ve used almost everything u could name and always came back to my amiga and worked on it for hours to sort it. Let down after let down and i haven`t given up where many have.
If a products bad its bad , no matter if its an amiga product start standing up and we might get some quality control instead of people pumping out the same old shit and we lap it up because its amiga.
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 34 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by DaveW on 12-Apr-2002 16:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (cOrpse):
The only pain I had was admitting that something I bought was s**t. In fact Im never so bothered about a product becoming defect as the:
18 month wait I had from an order to a delivery ( not a preorder ) and apprarently I wasnt alone.
The shocking hear no evil attitude of PV customer service.
The shocking wait time I had to get back exactly the same card from DCE with apparently nothing done to it.
Some bunch of heros ;-) Its an AmigaONE for me because in all my transactions with Eyetech and Hyperion I have never felt that they have sold me short.
Dave.
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 35 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by DaveW on 12-Apr-2002 16:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Only the shockingly fab amount of access you have to the Amiga mobo content from the weenie little edge connector ( and the deliberate lack of voltage regulation I suppose ).
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 36 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 12-Apr-2002 16:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (DaveW):
i know how u feel ... and i hope others can understand y i don`t trust them.
I hope the futures sunny for everyone ... mos/bplan included , if not for them but their customers , lets hope they don`t feel pissed off like i do ;).
/me still can`t see why everyone defends darklite , he probaly hasn`t even used one of these such cards and still thinks these people "deserve" respect.
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 37 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Christophe Decanini on 12-Apr-2002 16:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (cOrpse):
>i know how u feel ... and i hope others can understand y i don`t trust them.
We understand but you can understand that:
- You have mentioned numerous times that P5 / DCE / RS / MOS was shit.
- You have insulted all these people .
- Some people may have been / are quite happy with these products.
I just hate that someone come in a thread just to insult someone else or to declare a flamewar. At the end we all look stupid.
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 38 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by DaveW on 12-Apr-2002 16:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (Christophe Decanini):
Numbnuts is kind of an affectionate insult where I come from but this kind of thing doesnt translate.
I was feeling blissful about the world until Shogo Mad just crashed, now my Amiga wont restart - black screen. Have I just invoked some kind of DCE voodoo thing? No Im not kidding.
..
few minutes later - Ive put the good ole Apollo 060 in ( yes yes I know its pedigree ) and its all come up. Another f**ked PPC card. Oh h*ll!
:-((((((((((((((((
Dave.
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 39 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Ole-Egil Hvitmyren on 12-Apr-2002 16:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (DaveW):
Only having an Apollo 040, I find your whole post rather insulting ;)
You keep 060's _lying_around_? Dang me from behind, that's evil. :)
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 40 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 12-Apr-2002 16:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (Christophe Decanini):
"- You have mentioned numerous times that P5 / DCE / RS / MOS was shit."
Yep and i would call killing mobo`s etc shit ;) , just making sure others don`t fall into the trap. lol
"- You have insulted all these people ."
I`ve only insulted people that have insulted me by trying to tell me its my fault when it clearly isn`t . I will admit i`ve insulted certain people ...
these people being the ones that use pc`s , uae etc and try to tell me whats right ... I use my amiga all the time i think i know what to do.
"- Some people may have been / are quite happy with these products."
And other might not be , and maybe people that are considering such products would like some advanced warnings of shortcomings.
"I just hate that someone come in a thread just to insult someone else or to declare a flamewar. At the end we all look stupid."
I think to many people mix negative comments with flame starting , i didn`t think one of the rules was positive comments only.
Neways i`m going back to my amiga project , yes thats right i`m trying to give something back woooo ! :P
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 41 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by catohagen on 12-Apr-2002 16:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (Mark Olsen):
>"More people use it, so it MUST be better!"
>I take it you're a Windows fan?
No, im sitting here with my amiga, so i guess i'm an amiga fan... :)
>It is the most widely used OS, so it must be better?
??? eh......where in there did i talk about windows ? and where did i say that
f#cking crap line "More people use it, so it MUST be better!"
people thinking like that is those weak sorry wankers, that can't make up their
own mind, and just follows the rest, like a fucking donkey..
I take it you're a Linux fan ?
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 42 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by The_Editor on 12-Apr-2002 16:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (cOrpse):
I must say that I havent experienced the problems with PV cards that you obviously had.
My PV card is a A1260 which I bought one week after its release. From Gordon Harwoods (remember them).
It cost a whopping £600 + a further £100 for the Scsi controller and has run flawlessly from installation, Which must be about 8 or 9 years now!!
My only gripe was that it "Donked" the PcmCIA port. I dunno even if anyone released a patch to cure that.
N.E. way ...... Who cares?? AmigaOne is imminent
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 43 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 12-Apr-2002 16:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (DaveW):
i think the "respect" these people need is loving known as a length of 2*4 ;)
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 44 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by José on 12-Apr-2002 17:03 GMT
Just in case that is actually true, and Hyperion doesn't receive a board I'm out of the Amiga for good. Its just too much bitching..., and we don't know the true facts behind it. They'd all be no better than Microfilth, well at least some of them. Since I don't know who were honest, if any, it's the best to do. It's also very likely that MOS team has acces to 3.1 base code, if these incluent people are supporting them.... Bye bye amiga, and a buch of interest companies. It can only be good.
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 45 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 12-Apr-2002 17:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (José):
just one thing ... if they had the 3.1 source why did they need aros to fill gaps ;)
And just cuz so called gods are supporting it , it doesn`t make it right ; look at disney and mainly its founder.
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 46 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 12-Apr-2002 17:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 40 (cOrpse):
""- You have insulted all these people ."
I`ve only insulted people that have insulted me by trying to tell me its my fault when it clearly isn`t . I will admit i`ve insulted certain people ...
these people being the ones that use pc`s , uae etc and try to tell me whats right ... I use my amiga all the time i think i know what to do. "
I'am not speaking only the people here. But about the people that were involved in these products that should appreciate your comments even more than the people that did answer to you.
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 47 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Graham on 12-Apr-2002 17:17 GMT
Guys, calm down!
Secondly, the quote "Thendic looks to be the industrial partner that got the beta board 2 month ago" is interesting. Notice the singlular. Does this mean that there are no other beta boards? Are bPlan making a second round of beta-boards to ship to other developers? Or are they going straight to the consumer?
Thirdly, Phase5 made some very useful products for the Amiga which extended the life and forced the choice of upgrade processor in the future. Then we got the A\Box fiasco, caipirinha and whatnot - got everyone very excited for a while before Phase5 died. Now we have had Pegasos floating around for a year but until it is available to buy then we can see if it will ever appear. Otherwise it is just a few press releases and hot air, like the original AmigaOne was last year. To be honest, most Amigans are so desperate for new hardware that they will buy the first to appear - and that looks like being the AmigaOne for all that it is a modified Teron CX and not a lovingly crafted mATX board. However bPlan have more important customers for their board apparently.
Regardless, if bPlan can get the Pegasos down in size to the handheld format that Thendic want then good for them. I assume that this will have no expansion or upgradability, on-board processor, no PCI slots (hence on-board graphics of some sort) - we will see it when it arrives.
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 48 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Hermans/Hyperion on 12-Apr-2002 17:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (DaveW):
Dave, contact me.
We may be able to get your card repaired.
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 49 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Mark Olsen on 12-Apr-2002 17:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (catohagen):
>>"More people use it, so it MUST be better!"
>>I take it you're a Windows fan?
>No, im sitting here with my amiga, so i guess i'm an amiga fan... :)
>>It is the most widely used OS, so it must be better?
>??? eh......where in there did i talk about windows ? and where did i say that
>f#cking crap line "More people use it, so it MUST be better!"
>people thinking like that is those weak sorry wankers, that can't make up their
>own mind, and just follows the rest, like a fucking donkey..
So, what you're saying is that you're "weak sorry wanker, that can't make up your
own mind, and just follow the rest like a fucking donkey"?
My question was "Why is PowerUP worse than WarpOS?", to which you replied:
"
"PowerUp is more appealing to developers and WarpOS is more appealing to AmigaOS"
I know I've read this someplace, just don't remember where....What else can
cause that WarpOS is most used, and tools like Piru's Blizkick have
the 'bppcfix' module.....as the name says, it 'fixes' the blizzppc :)
Several tools exists on aminet to remove PowerUP...so why so many tools
to remove powerup ?
"
And taken out from that, you wrote "What else can cause that WarpOS is most used..."
Your argument is that "more people use it", right?
Hmm, I also wonder why corpse hasn't replied to it yet, maybe he doesn't know why WarpOS is better than PowerUP?
>I take it you're a Linux fan ?
What do you base that on?
Petro Tyschtschenko and Bill Buck posts on ANN : Comment 50 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 12-Apr-2002 17:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):
now thats customer support ... fixing someone else`s products :).
Nechance of playing with mine ;) maybe fit an 060 on there :D hehe, it needs a new fan ( the little one on the back ) at any rate ; keeps going slow , psu fans pushs back any air the outputs nehows :)
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