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[News] Amiga® Anywhere™ Entertainment Pack # 1 ReleasedANN.lu
Posted on 23-Apr-2002 06:23 GMT by the man in the shadows18 comments
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Amiga Anywhere takes Windows Powered devices to the next level! Amiga has announced the availability of the Amiga Anywhere Entertainment Pack # 1. The Amiga Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 is available for download at a price of $29.95 and exclusive Game Card versions are available for $49.95 (Compact Flash), or $59.95 (Secure Digital) from the Amiga website at the Amiga Anywhere Shop.

Amiga Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 press release
Amiga® Anywhere™ Entertainment Pack # 1 Released : Comment 1 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 23-Apr-2002 04:53 GMT
Excellent!
Now, I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, I don't want to be offensive, I know it's all just media costs...
...but is anyone else pushed into fits of laughter when the SecureDigital card, a medium promoted to allow for copy controls and prevent piracy, thus increasing profits for developers, costs a consumer $10 *more* than plain old CF?
I hate to do it as a first post, but it's got me rolling. Amiga deserves some serious honesty points here for *not* marking up the CF version to make them price-equal on the shelves.
Amiga® Anywhere™ Entertainment Pack # 1 Released : Comment 2 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Christian Munk on 23-Apr-2002 08:27 GMT
Why is this all-Windows? I thought the idea of Amiga Anywhere was that the executables could be run on any Amiga Anywhere platform?
Amiga® Anywhere™ Entertainment Pack # 1 Released : Comment 3 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Viktor Schoeneberg on 23-Apr-2002 09:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Christian Munk):
Indeed it is, see Fleecy's posting, it is just another PR-stuff of M$.
Amiga® Anywhere™ Entertainment Pack # 1 Released : Comment 4 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Phill on 23-Apr-2002 09:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Christian Munk):
The games do run anywhere, the player doesn't
They are selling the player & games as a pack as otherwise the Windows CE users would probably not know what to do with it. The versions sold on a memory card are for people who are even more clueless.
Amiga® Anywhere™ Entertainment Pack # 1 Released : Comment 5 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Yoris on 23-Apr-2002 09:28 GMT
Waouh.
I can't tell how excited I am.
Amiga® Anywhere™ Entertainment Pack # 1 Released : Comment 6 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Björn Hagström on 23-Apr-2002 09:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Ben Yoris):
Hmm ;)
/Björn
Amiga® Anywhere™ Entertainment Pack # 1 Released : Comment 7 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Thomas Würgler on 23-Apr-2002 10:44 GMT
If I were in the US I'd get the card.. just to have it. Guess it's the collector in me :P
Amiga® Anywhere™ Entertainment Pack # 1 Released : Comment 8 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by gz on 23-Apr-2002 11:46 GMT
Just a question though. Who's gonna buy this amazing new gamepack when they don't know it even exist?
I have seen little if none advertising for this product other than a brief introduction on techtv (on where hundreds of other "exciting" innovations are introduced all the time) For a person outside the amiga community it's going to be hard to remember anything about that techtv presentation afterwards without advertising.
Also I haven't seen microsoft stepping in either helping promoting amiga anywhere gamepack for their customers. I hope AI can realize this time that without advertising you can kiss serious profits goodbye... I know adverts cost a lot of money but nonetheless are one of the most essential things to do in modern business world.
You can sell even shit to ppl if you just package it sexy enough.
Amiga® Anywhere™ Entertainment Pack # 1 Released : Comment 9 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 23-Apr-2002 13:09 GMT
Also cellphones powered by AA are coming.
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t284-s2108703,00.html
Amiga® Anywhere™ Entertainment Pack # 1 Released : Comment 10 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Lars Nelson on 23-Apr-2002 13:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Christian Munk):
>Why is this all-Windows? I thought the idea of Amiga Anywhere was that
>the executables could be run on any Amiga Anywhere platform?
My sentiments as well. Amiga Anywhere. Oh wait, I mean only
for WindowsCE. I'm not buying a PDA that uses WindowsCE.
- Lars
Amiga® Anywhere™ Entertainment Pack # 1 Released : Comment 11 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 23-Apr-2002 13:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Lars Nelson):
Buy a computer or a cell phone then... ;)
Amiga® Anywhere™ Entertainment Pack # 1 Released : Comment 12 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Ben on 23-Apr-2002 14:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Lars Nelson):
As I have posted before, people dont really understand it at the moment so having something on the shelves that says "For PocketPC" will grab their eye more than "Runs on everything"...
This way is the only way Amiga are going to sell anything, by starting with getting the biggest markets adressed first - its very logical, in a few months/years there will be lots of people using "Amiga Anywhere" stuff without actually realising it! :)
Just because we might know better doesnt mean that we should tell everyone else, that might just confuse them and they wouldnt buy it at all!
Amiga® Anywhere™ Entertainment Pack # 1 Released : Comment 13 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by acg on 23-Apr-2002 15:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Ben):
To be honest, I sort of agree with you. Go for the most populated
market. What will happen eventually is that lots of the WindowsCE
folks will have lots of friends with other PDA's and devices, and
if they find out they can run their friends software on their
device they will start getting intrigued and consider Amiga stuff..
it will be word of mouth for a while...
It seems to me that so far, Amiga is doing OK. I am afraid that if
they get toooooo big which will not be for a while, Microsoft or
some other Microsoft "worshipper" will get their hands on them
and blunt their ideas out.
Well, it looks like AmigaOS4 is coming out, AmigaOne soon, Pegasos,
Amithlon might get its copyright issues settled, AmigaForever is
still going strong....I have to admit, there is direction, and
lots more movement than with Gateway, and more forward thinking
than with Escom (remember, they wanted a Coldfire "walker"...)..
although I give them credit for making more A1200's....and some
A4000(quikpak)....
Amiga® Anywhere™ Entertainment Pack # 1 Released : Comment 14 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Troels Ersking on 23-Apr-2002 15:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Lars Nelson):
>>Why is this all-Windows? I thought the idea of Amiga Anywhere was that
>>the executables could be run on any Amiga Anywhere platform?
>My sentiments as well. Amiga Anywhere. Oh wait, I mean only
>for WindowsCE. I'm not buying a PDA that uses WindowsCE.
>- Lars
The executables can be run on a lot of processors/systems, IF a translator is available. I guess they couldn't fit both a Linux and a winblows Player on the ram card. Or wants to keep the players (for linux - winblows) separate to avoid confusion among the end-users.
Ask yourself which market is the biggest, Linux pda or winblows pda? the answer is (palm... but they are not supported) winblows! It has the biggest market and thats what Amiga needs to target to start with.
Amiga® Anywhere™ Entertainment Pack # 1 Released : Comment 15 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Ben on 23-Apr-2002 16:54 GMT
We are making progress in understanding the Amiga plan ourselves, I believe its:
1) Get people to buy "Amiga Anywhere" stuff for their Windows based kit
2) Get a good OS (4 and 5) up and running
3) Then tell the people using the Windows-targeted "Amiga Anywhere" stuff that it runs anywhere and they no longer need to be tied to their Windows based kit as they are already using all these cool games and killer apps...
4) No one is tied to Windows...
5) Amiga OS4/5 is nice to have around to make new content for "AA" enabled kit.
6) Heck, wow, I can use Linux or my PS2 to run this stuff... Who needs M$ now?
:)
Amiga® Anywhere™ Entertainment Pack # 1 Released : Comment 16 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 24-Apr-2002 00:25 GMT
A combined reply to gz and Ben:
On advertising: PlanetZed is great, and Payback is coming, but I think we can all agree that AA is still in its infancy, and lacking a crop of 'killer' apps. At the moment, the package is competing in the same market as those 'pay for a shareware demo!' disks they used to sell at the supermarket for a while. ;) Presumably they want to get this on the shelves in Staples and CompUSA, next to the 'Monopoly and Golf for Palm!' cartridges (who makes those things, anyway?), and at that point, the screenshots on the back of the blister pack should speak for themselves.
Presumably the first advertising targets should be PDA and games magazines (hopefully with a shot of Payback so people know what's coming), and the broader ad campaign would start once there's something worth showing on TV - try to imagine a Gamecube or Jak and Daxter-type ad for Gobbler and Piles-o-Tiles..? :)
On the per-product packaging: Personally, I think this *will* help the newbie-wrangling, but it's also a fairly obvious form of license control. I don't know if each translator costs an extra license fee from Tao, but AA is a commercial product, and Amiga wants to sell their Player licenses by device; you're only supposed to be using the copy you bought on one thing at a time, so if you have a WinCE device and a Zaurus, you're supposed to have two Player licenses. Once the shrinkwrap is off, the instruction card hopefully explains more about the 'run-anywhere' software that can be used *on* AA, and would obviously point people to the current incarnation of the DE Shop.
I think CE also has a bad habit of trying to format any storage added with a filesystem it can't recognize, so that might be another reason they didn't go with a dual-format card. (The Zaurus can surely read FAT media, but I don't know how transparent they've made the mounting process, so again, newbie-usability issues.)
Amiga® Anywhere™ Entertainment Pack # 1 Released : Comment 17 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Lennart Fridén on 24-Apr-2002 04:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (gz):
"You can sell even shit to ppl if you just package it sexy enough."
Hey, we Swedes sell elk droppings to crazy Germans...:-)
Amiga® Anywhere™ Entertainment Pack # 1 Released : Comment 18 of 18ANN.lu
Posted by Ole-Egil Hvitmyren on 24-Apr-2002 12:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Lennart Fridén):
Any money in that? I need some extra money due to buying some hardware *cough* this year (not starting in my paid job until probably july), but I could probably cough up (uhm) a few tons of elk droppings if anyone wants :)
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