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[Files] MAME for MorphOSANN.lu
Posted on 29-Apr-2002 12:00 GMT by Teemu I. Yliselä225 comments
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This is a beta release of MAME, the arcade emulator, for MorphOS. Read the installation and execution instructions here. [Note: the archive is packed with Lha despite the extension]

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MAME for MorphOS : Comment 1 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by Samface on 29-Apr-2002 12:22 GMT
I'm sorry but I simply don't think MorphOS news belongs on an Amiga website. This is exactly what Ben Hermans meant when he said the they do parasitic marketing... :-/
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 2 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by 4pLaY on 29-Apr-2002 12:32 GMT
I acctualy agree with you samface! im not anti-MOS fanatic but if they are to be theyre own platform as they now have set out to be they should get theyre own news sites and build up theyre own community and keep away from the Amiga community.
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 3 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 29-Apr-2002 12:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Samface):
Fortunately, what you think doesn't matter. If you're not
interested, don't read it.
I'm not interested in AmigaOS4.0 -- Solution? I just skip
those new items that discuss it.
It's really quite simple, but then again, I'm over
the age of twelve, have long reached puberty and
have learnt how to tolerate people with whom
I disagree.
Christian: Here's yet another plea for you to implement
user accounts. That way I can k-line all the Hyperion
sycophants.
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 4 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 29-Apr-2002 12:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Samface):
And I think you don't belong to this website.
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 5 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 29-Apr-2002 12:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Samface):
Shut up! You are the only parasite in here with your ever aggressive anti-MOS agenda.
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 6 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 29-Apr-2002 12:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Samface):
In addition: I suppose you think that Hyperion mouthing
off on *ann* isn't parasitic.
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 7 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 29-Apr-2002 12:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Samface):
You make me sick...
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 8 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by Teemu I. Yliselä on 29-Apr-2002 12:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Samface):
Sorry, but this has nothing to do with anything "belonging" anywhere. As I see it, ANN is about offering a service to its readers [disclaimer: that's my personal opinion only, not necessarily that of the site owner]. And a lot of these readers are interested in seeing MorphOS-related items. I will not deny these readers on some petty political grounds.
I'm personally totally fed up with all the politics and legal innuendo going on in the community, and will have nothing to do with it. These are matters that should be solved between the concerned individuals privately, not debated to death on public boards by people not privy to any behind-the-scenes details.
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 9 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by jacaDcaps on 29-Apr-2002 12:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Samface):
So you suggest that the news about Amithlon should also be removed? Maybe they should
even remove news about AmigaINC because they products are not related to Amiga
computers (Amiga Entertainment Pack, etc.)?
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 10 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by Christian Kemp on 29-Apr-2002 12:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Teemu I. Yliselä):
Agreed.
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 11 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by tinman on 29-Apr-2002 12:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (jacaDcaps):
Didn't you know Samface was the newest moderator around here? His first post on every thread determines whether it should be allowed to stay on ANN or not ;)
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 12 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by Anders Kjeldsen on 29-Apr-2002 13:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Samface):
There should be lower limits on AGE and IQ on ANN :p
(hoh-hoh-hoh)
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 13 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by Christophe Decanini on 29-Apr-2002 13:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Teemu I. Yliselä):
Well said Teemu.
For a while I was caring too much about news being real news and being relly Amiga related.
I think I was going away from Christian's vision that (I think) is something quite open. I'am happy since we have the forum category that solves the issue of posts not being Amiga News.
I have been unhappy with the last weeks comments where Pro Amiga and Pro MorphOS people fight in every thread. I tried to not step into the fight as It won't have helped to stop it.
We have never censored or boycoted any platform that is able to run Amiga applications and I don't think we will ever do it. ANN is not affiliated with Amiga INC nor any other company. ANN is open to the free speech.
We just hope that the users will have more respect each other and accept that there are other people with different ideas.
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 14 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by Raffaele on 29-Apr-2002 13:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Samface):
Samface said:
>I'm sorry but I simply don't think MorphOS
>news belongs on an Amiga website.
>This is exactly what Ben Hermans meant when he said
>the they do parasitic marketing... :-/
Well, as an AmigaOS clone, Morphos deserves to be mentioned on Amiga sites also...
and post a message for a new version of an open source program like MAME is far away from marketing advertising...
(certainly if you consider it as non-direct advertising to show Morphos capabilities, and considering the fact that a port of Mame shows that Morphos has reached an almost full operative status, yes I can agree with your statement...
...because it is like an hidden adv like as happens in some movies when showing common consume products or goods)
Bye,
Raffaele
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 15 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 29-Apr-2002 13:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Samface):
Too right , if they want to lose the shadow amiga casts over them they should start acting like they are something else instead of some kind of clone.
OR maybe they`re are just trying to say we`ve got this na na nanna , like all those usb stack posts , it really isn`t that exciting.
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 16 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 29-Apr-2002 13:25 GMT
"0.37b14" , maybe a more recent port would be something news worthy , there have been ppc ports of mames around this revision for ages , nothing new.
Now a port of Kawaks ( based on the mame neogeo etc driver IIRC ) would be cool , but i doubt after mos has eatten memory for jit there would be enough left to decompress KOF2001 :).
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 17 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 29-Apr-2002 13:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (cOrpse):
Those USB stack posts were not MorphOS related...
It will benefit YOU and YOUR AMIGA, be it 68k or PPC
or ANYTHING. Poseidon is the USB stack to be used on
Highway, Subway and everything supported by OpenPCI
(G-Rex, Pegasos, Prometheus, Amithlon, mediator had
to be removed as... elbox doesn't want it...)
Now find something else to troll about.
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 18 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by MIKE on 29-Apr-2002 13:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Raffaele):
Mame was written by a noted Amiga Author, always happy to read about former amiga coders new projects, as well..
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 19 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by X on 29-Apr-2002 13:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (4pLaY):
@FPLAY
TheyreThey're = They are
TheyreTheir
Please spell it correctly...
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 20 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by catohagen on 29-Apr-2002 13:28 GMT
Still, MAME on amiga isn't news, as it have existed for months(years?) both
for 68k and ppc. Would be news if this is a new compile of the latest source..
is it ?
denying morphos news here is going extreme, since amithlon/aros/amigaforever
is accepted general amiga news, so morphos is no different..
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 21 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 29-Apr-2002 13:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Raffaele):
"full operative status, yes I can agree with your statement..."
Shame AmigaOS ports have been around for years , all it does is make mos look very behind.
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 22 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 29-Apr-2002 13:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (cOrpse):
Last time I checked ALL Amiga or compatible solutions right now use a JIT.
(OS4, MorphOS, Amithlon, UAE/AmigaXL, and in the near future AROS+UAE)
So what's your point?
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 23 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 29-Apr-2002 13:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (catohagen):
"amithlon/aros/amigaforever"
Amithlon and amigaforever *ARE* amiga's to a certain extent , true they are emulated.
AROS and mos are different tho ... So if mos news shouldn`t be here maybe ARos shouldn`t either , but there again AROS is free and they don`t seem to be a fire chucking bunch , infact some of AROS lives in amigaOS :).
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 24 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 29-Apr-2002 13:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
FSCKING HELL !! , it was a comical statement , everyone thats tried it will know that to run recent neogeo games will take atleast 128 meg ram or alot of vm. And IIRC current ppc boards can`t really take all that much ram , and if you do find nice big simms you`ll have to sell your house to get um ;).
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 25 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by Graham on 29-Apr-2002 13:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Teemu I. Yliselä):
Ultimately, the people who run this site say what gets published. Currently MorphOS is valid Amiga news and a large proportion of the Amiga `community' is interested in it, so I don't see why it shouldn't be here either.
It isn't as if MacOS news was being posted here - that is an entirely different operating system even if it runs on PPC hardware. Even if Mac hardware has got cheaper with the "eMac" that was released today in the US only.
So as far as I am concerned, if it is an AmigaOS application, AmigaOS, Amiga hardware, AmigaOS-compatible, etc, then the news item should remain. Exceptions possible for applications that would not run on any definition of Amiga - e.g., I wouldn't want to see QNX applications just because AmigaXL ran on QNX and could launch QNX applications from within AmigaOS. I also don't want to see Amiga-like operating systems news, although I can forgive the appearance of such material :)
So a yes to: AmigaOS, AmigaOS4, Amiga hardware, AmigaOne, AROS, Amithlon, Amiga applications, AmigaOS applications, MorphOS A/Box system, etc
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 26 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by Raffaele on 29-Apr-2002 13:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (cOrpse):
On the MorphMame page the programmer wrote:
>The current version if 0.37b14,
>and i will release very soon 0.37b16.
>In a few days i hope to get 0.59 working.
Hey cOrpse, the programmer he is a "One man band", he start it from scratch
( or from the Amiga version, how malicious I am :-) )...
give him some time to work...
Maybe he start from a version he can manage in a few time all by himself...
-----
Adding some news about your post nr.23
>AROS and mos are different tho ...
>So if mos news shouldn`t be here maybe ARos shouldn`t either ,
>but there again AROS is free and
>they don`t seem to be a fire chucking bunch ,
>infact some of AROS lives in amigaOS :).
the news is that Mame works on Aros also, and from a very log time...
(for those people who don't know anything about it)
Hum... mame seems a milestone program...
An obliged choice for every person making an OS (for 68k, PPC, X86, etc...)
Bye,
Raffaele
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 27 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 29-Apr-2002 13:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
"Those USB stack posts were not MorphOS related... It will benefit YOU and YOUR AMIGA, be it 68k or PPC or ANYTHING. Poseidon is the USB stack to be used on Highway, Subway and everything supported by OpenPCI(G-Rex, Pegasos, Prometheus, Amithlon, mediator had to be removed as... elbox doesn't want it...) Now find something else to troll about."
"not MorphOS related" - IIRC the topic for one of the posts was a very misleading first pictures taken from usb camera on ppc motherboard .. like macs haven't done it for years.
"OpenPCI(G-Rex" - If bplan etc keep using their m$ tactics to force their OS on people i doubt the G-rex will be supported by anything but morphos , not really news they forced ppc.lib on us even tho we asked nicely and screamed at them to allow us to remove it.
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 28 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by Rik Sweeney on 29-Apr-2002 13:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (catohagen):
Colin Ward is currently the MAME maintainer, at least on PPC anyway. Unfortunately he doesn't have enough time to make regular updates and besides MAME has become so slow that our current CPUs really can't cope anymore. If anyone is interested then you can show him some support at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/warpmame
or by downloading his ports from
http://www.powerup.com.au/~cward
I think the latest version is 37b16
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 29 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 29-Apr-2002 13:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Graham):
"It isn't as if MacOS news was being posted here "
psst, hey, eMac has been released ... ;)
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 30 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 29-Apr-2002 13:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (cOrpse):
/me testing some nice OpenPCI drivers on G-Rex under AmigaOS right now...
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 31 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by catohagen on 29-Apr-2002 13:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (cOrpse):
still, morphos can be used with 'real' amiga hardware&software so I think
morphos is more 'amiga' news that some emulators...
When/if morphos/pegasos will be a complete system, with its own desktop
system, and require no 'amiga' software to work, maybe then we can discuss
if its enough amiga'ish to be mentioned on amiga news sites :)
And those emulators started to gain popularity after the creation of JIT,
who pushed application performance beyond 'real' amigas.
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 32 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 29-Apr-2002 13:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Rik Sweeney):
I was working on a port of .59 IIRC ( the SNK forever on :) ) , as i'm a KOF addict and having to use a pc is a drag , Alas college work got in the way so smaller projects are all i have time for.
even if the current ppc`s were fast enough we`d still need alot of mem or a VM system running to get games like MetalSlug3 etc running , so its best to get the source working on PPC and only release it when we have machines capable of it.
/me goes back to progging this fscking Virtualmachine to get outta his dead end college course.
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 33 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by 4pLaY on 29-Apr-2002 13:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (X):
if i write a few mistakes in my english you should have bether things to do then correct them english is not my native language so im allowed to a few mistakes.
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 34 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by Lennart Fridén on 29-Apr-2002 13:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Anonymous):
You can hardly be the parasite if you develop the "official" OS (much unlike MorphOS).
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 35 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 29-Apr-2002 13:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (catohagen):
"'real' amiga hardware" what defines 'real' amiga hardware ? ;) to an emulated AmigaOs its hardwares just the same as the real thing ..
MOS runs on PPC , this could be classed as not being 'REAL' amiga hardware , cuz C= didn`t put it there.
I think the Amiga genre is just to wide to judge now :( nething could be classed amiga.
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 36 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by Lennart Fridén on 29-Apr-2002 13:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Teemu I. Yliselä):
"I'm personally totally fed up with all the politics and legal innuendo going on in the community, and will have nothing to do with it. These are matters that should be solved between the concerned individuals privately, not debated to death on public boards by people not privy to any behind-the-scenes details."
That'd be nice.
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 37 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 29-Apr-2002 13:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (4pLaY):
I wouldn't worry about him , your probaly helping the amiga OS rebirth more then he could ever imagine ;).
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 38 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 29-Apr-2002 14:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
"/me testing some nice OpenPCI drivers on G-Rex under AmigaOS right now..."
Nice for you , shame DCE would drink water poured down Bplans arse , Leading to the G-rex and most probaly other DCE hardware not being supported properly under a decent PPC os ;) . DCE have shot themselves in the foot , the sales they could have got from blizzard owners wanting a decent GFX card etc for os4 is lost.
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 39 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 29-Apr-2002 14:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (Lennart Fridén):
So Hyperion pays for it's advertising on ANN does it?
Whether or not Hyperion are developing the "official" version
or not, they have no more right to post here than do the
MorphOS team.
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 40 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by Samface on 29-Apr-2002 14:13 GMT
WOW! Look at all the comments that came out of a simple opinion. Well, I did say "I think" and that does not in anyway mean anything else besides that it is my opinion.
Oh well... Glad to see you guys haven't lost the touch. It's almost like you sleep with a flamethrower underneath your pillows. ;-)
Could anyone point out a MorphOS news website which displays Amiga (as in not MorphOS) related news? :-P
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 41 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 29-Apr-2002 14:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (Anonymous):
"Whether or not Hyperion are developing the "official" version
or not, they have no more right to post here than do the
MorphOS team."
IIRC hyperion is developing the next version of the amiga operating system , them posting on an "AMIGA" news site is only right , IIRC MOS is trying to pretend to be something different , but has an amiga sandbox becaused it hasn't got many apps and the beta is crippled to force people into development.
I expect the only reason MOS developers don't post here is because of the amount of hate that will be directed at them for many legit reasons.
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 42 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by Fab1 on 29-Apr-2002 14:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Samface):
>I'm sorry but I simply don't think MorphOS news belongs on an Amiga website. This is exactly what Ben Hermans meant when he said the they do parasitic marketing... :-/
Then I wonder if I will release a warpos port of Mame 0.37b16 and later, as a simple recompilation is needed.
Could you be all less (mos/os4) fanatic please...
I think mos news is important for amiga users too. If you don't like mos, then don't read threads related to it.
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 43 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by Raffaele on 29-Apr-2002 14:18 GMT
Rik wrote:
>Colin Ward is currently the MAME maintainer,
>at least on PPC anyway.
>Unfortunately he doesn't have enough time to make
>regular updates and besides MAME has become so slow
>that our current CPUs really can't cope anymore.
and
>I think the latest version is 37b16
sad to know that our machine is too slow to manage it...
But it is because Mame moves away from its orignial purpose to emulate old coin-ops and is becoming an universal emulator...
...due to the fact that now many many users drive the development in the direction they want, i.e. they WANT Mame to emulate ALL coin-ops...
They want the newest games, with all theirs 3D surfacing renderings.
This all is hard to be managed on a classic Amiga and easy to be managed by a cheap 3d graphic card on PC side...
Maybe Mame must split into 2 different projects:
a version of Mame only for aged games just to be honest with the original spirit of the whole project,
(good for the classic Amiga, and not at least to keep functioning some old games that in recent Mame versions -even on PC Mame- are not working anymore. Yes, unfortunately Mame is losing its pieces along the path)
and a different version for those who want to play with recent coin-ops at home,
(to prevent Mame to become a huge monster, and for the benfit of all those people who drive Mame development to emulate recent games because -this is the sad truth- they don't want to buy a console)
Bye,
Raffaele
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 44 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by Raffaele on 29-Apr-2002 14:30 GMT
I am writing, and also I made some searches on the net...
Look at
http://www.amigamesse.de/bplan/news.html
to see some screenshots of a working Pegasos, with Amiga programs running on Morphos and AmigaOS emulation...
Bye,
Raffaele
P.S. I will post it on another ANN thread...
/here_ourplace
Here in Naples is afternoon 18:30 still sunny after a raining morning...
How about your places?
/here_ourplace
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 45 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by Rik Sweeney on 29-Apr-2002 14:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (Raffaele):
>...due to the fact that now many many users drive the development in the
>direction they want, i.e. they WANT Mame to emulate ALL coin-ops...
Well that IS what MAME is for, to document the inner workings of Arcade machines, with the nice side effect that you can play the actual games. Users can whinge and whine all they want that Virtua Fighter and Tekken doesn't run but unless they submit a working driver that doesn't use 3D hardware acceleration I doubt it will be accepted. MAME might use OpenGL in the future but at the moment games like Hard Drivin' use no hardware acceleration and as a result they crawl. But hey, it's open source so if someone doesn't like it they can change it...
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 46 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by catohagen on 29-Apr-2002 14:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 40 (Samface):
>Could anyone point out a MorphOS news website which displays Amiga (as in not MorphOS) related news?
why don't anyone try ? :) point your browser to http://www.morphoS-news.de/
and post some amiga news, and see if the moderators allow it :)
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 47 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by Anders Kjeldsen on 29-Apr-2002 14:34 GMT
Oh, I don't know what to say about all the pathetic sheeps posting here.
You act like little kids. You don't care how good something is, as long as it says "amiga". You're willing to wait forever, as long as something will be "amiga".
And I'm sorry, but there's nothing AmigaINC has done for the last ten years that have kept me in this community. NOTHING. NOTHING! Phase5 made some great PPC cards in the middle 90's. One thing was for sure, they would NOT come from Amiga INC! Several OTHER companies has made hardware for amiga, while nothing has been made with the NAME on it. We were ABANDONED! Face it! The community was left on its own. While other companies help the brand staying alive, Amiga didn't do shit. Then, suddenly, after 8-10 years they actually believe that they're in position to take the control back ? Yes, of course they are; Control over -YOU- SHEEPS, who are willing to do ANYTHING.. ANYTHING FOR THE NAME.
I'm sorry. But I'm more interesting in spending my efforts on projects made by people who's DOING SOMETHING for the community. Amiga INC only sells licences. As far as I know (And that AmigaDE-stunt). I GUESS that there aren't a SINGLE classic Amiga in the offices at Amiga Inc. Wild guess.
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 48 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by the man in the shadows on 29-Apr-2002 14:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 47 (Anders Kjeldsen):
> I GUESS that there aren't a SINGLE classic Amiga in the offices at Amiga Inc.
> Wild guess.
Last I checked there were three real Amiga systems there... fairly decked out to boot, but that was over a year ago.
I'm just laughing at this thread to see how well it has exploded into nothingness. Some people should stop and think about what they comment on, even myself. Let's see, I'll bet another 30 minutes and we'll have a total of 60 posts.
"Just remember that elephants can't fly cause they don't have ears." - Mel Brooks
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 49 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by catohagen on 29-Apr-2002 14:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 47 (Anders Kjeldsen):
>after 8-10 years they actually believe that they're in position to take the control back ?
what have they done to take control back ? have they sued Morphos ?
have they sued Amithlon ? have they sued Aros ?
Its more Morphos people attacking OS4 and eyetech's amiga1..even Ralph Schmidt
laughed(sp?) at the amiga1 in public...
Amiga inc started os4 after morphos, yes....but competition is a good thing(tm) ? :)
MAME for MorphOS : Comment 50 of 225ANN.lu
Posted by Raffaele on 29-Apr-2002 14:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 46 (catohagen):
Catohagen wrote:
>why don't anyone try ? :)
>point your browser to http://www.morphoS-news.de/
>and post some amiga news, and see if the
>moderators allow it :)
Sad to know it...
This is nothing than racism and not a good point for Morphos team
Bye,
Raffaele
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