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[News] New MotionStudio ScreenshotsANN.lu
Posted on 04-May-2002 13:47 GMT by Daniel Miller76 comments
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On www.amiganews.de there is a report of new developments to the MotionStudio video editing software. Here are two links: motiontimelineshot, and Titan Computer's index page Some of the comments on www.amiga-news.de refer to MotionStudio as the potential "killer app." It all certainly seems impressive. MotionStudio is a work in development and is projected to require MorphOS 1.0 and a bPlan Pegasos or similar hardware from Merlancia Industries.
New MotionStudio Screenshots : Comment 51 of 76ANN.lu
Posted by damocles on 05-May-2002 15:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 50 (cOrpse):
Come on C0rpse, what's so new about JAVA? What is so revolutionary about write once, run many since ADA first appeared? Oh that's right, how silly of me, we are talking about a cellphone OS...
Dammy
New MotionStudio Screenshots : Comment 52 of 76ANN.lu
Posted by Kelly Samel on 05-May-2002 16:39 GMT
This looks like an almost exact clone of IMovie
which is included with most new Macintosh computers.
It is very easy to use but not very powerful piece
of editing software. This will be great for home users
to edit video with ease but I really don't think it
will even come close to replace Toaster/Flyer's excellent editing
capabilities or even movieshop's at that. If it's as
much like IMovie as it appears to be then many people
will enjoy it's ease of use and it's a nice intro
to video editing. I do not know if they plan
additonal features at this point but the interface
doesn't look like it, I hope this appears on both
MorphOS and AmigaOS though as it is a worthwhile
project, and many people would find basic editing
capabilities on their new Amiga very interesting and
fun.
New MotionStudio Screenshots : Comment 53 of 76ANN.lu
Posted by Christian on 05-May-2002 17:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 49 (cheesegrate):
>someone mentioned the dual g4 from apple? it costs $6000 in oz. i'm sure a dual
>g4 pegasos will be cheaper..
Reality check: There is no dual CPU support in MorphOS yet, and according to Ralph Schmidt it's not a priority. And why should it be? Get the system running and complete on one CPU first. Ask again about dual CPU support next year (at the earliest).
-Christian
New MotionStudio Screenshots : Comment 54 of 76ANN.lu
Posted by cheeegrat e on 05-May-2002 22:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 53 (Christian):
>Reality check: There is no dual CPU support in MorphOS yet, and according to >.Ralph Schmidt it's not a priority.
i'm sure linux ppc users see a different reality than u...
New MotionStudio Screenshots : Comment 55 of 76ANN.lu
Posted by Raffaele on 05-May-2002 23:32 GMT
Some considerations about Motion Studio:
1)
I agree with Kelly Samel msg 52.
It seems to me a clone of IMac IMovie or MovieDV under PC side, not suitable for pro-video but capable to attract a lot of users...
But maybe future development could change it into some very interesting...
2)
It is programmed under Mac environment, so you could port it easy towards Mac side, to:
2A)
Make a lot of money
2B)
Abandon Morphos
3)
Amiga One has no Firewire ports but you can easy add some by connecting a PCI card, as someone intelligently said...
but this all means to cope with IRQ, timing and other probs...
(Yes To live under the dictatorship of a BIOS chip makes the AmigaOne similar to a PC)
4)
If the alliance between Amiga Inc. and Matrox is for real, then prepare yourself to see the Martox DV 2500RT ported to Amiga One, so we will have a good set of conntectors to deal with and a double card (AGP+PCI) good for real time video...
But we need software and by chance...
...Motion Studio comes here just in time good as the "cheese on the maccheroni"
it is done for Morphos?
The programmers will recompile it... ...Easy...
5)
I wonder if it could be adjusted to work with some good SMTP generators program such Bars & Pipes Pro, to obtain professional synchronization with audio...
6)
Make your move people I'm here to listen your ideas and your thinking...
Bye,
Raffaele
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Posted by Christian on 06-May-2002 00:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 54 (cheeegrat e):
> i'm sure linux ppc users see a different reality than u...
And that helps this supposed MorphOS killer application how?
-Christian
New MotionStudio Screenshots : Comment 57 of 76ANN.lu
Posted by cheesegrate on 06-May-2002 01:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 56 (Christian):
>And that helps this supposed MorphOS killer application how?
in that former amigans who now use linux will buy the pegasos mb (cause it can take dual g4 cpu daughtercard) and they get morphos (ppc aos compability) for free. yes linux runs on a1.5 as well but soldered on cpu is not very attractive too many people..
the pegasos mb needs to be sold to more than just *currently* using amiga people.
there are a lot of linux open source people who still keep a casual glance if anything interesting is happening in amiga community, and they will buy ppc mb because it is not apple it is alternative. some of those will use morphos and might be suprised and impressed in the medium term.. so they will use vid edditing package on linux or whatever and then they/we have the choice to jump into morph..
does that answer ure question?
does that answer ure question
New MotionStudio Screenshots : Comment 58 of 76ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 06-May-2002 05:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 55 (Raffaele):
"Amiga One has no Firewire ports but you can easy add some by connecting a PCI card, as
someone intelligently said...
but this all means to cope with IRQ, timing and other probs...
(Yes To live under the dictatorship of a BIOS chip makes the AmigaOne
similar to a PC) "
My understanding is that both AmigaOne and Pegasos use Open Formware
rather than a traditional BIOS. You are right about IRQ conflicts
being a problem on PC hardware with PCI slots, although it may not be
as bad as it was with ISA.
New MotionStudio Screenshots : Comment 59 of 76ANN.lu
Posted by Libra-75 on 06-May-2002 07:57 GMT
Personally the GUI makes me a little bit sceptic. My experience with overworked GUI´s like this one is that the functionality sucks. I´ve tried several videoediting software and the ones that look the best often sucks the most. For example: Studio 7 (Pinnacle) looks nice but sucks bigtime, simply lacks of features and ability to edit video in a professional way. I prefer software like SpeedRazor, with a clean GUI and good functionality.
About firewire, I don´t see the problem with getting it to the A1, there´s always someone who can make the drivers. Firewire isn´t the only way to capture video, there´s other options like Y/C and Composite, not as fast but it works.
I personally would love to see a videoediting package on the Amiga again. That would be really nice. :)
New MotionStudio Screenshots : Comment 60 of 76ANN.lu
Posted by gz on 06-May-2002 16:07 GMT
I hope motionstudio will be a usable videoediting software, as I have long waited for a new alternative. (getting sick and tired of using adobe premiere)
As a side note, it would also be great to see ImageFX on MOS or AOS4x
I mailed novadesign for this and asked if they have had any preliminary plans of doing a port for either platform but they said they don't so... :(
I guess we have to wait and see for business to pickup b4 we can expect any major software titles.
New MotionStudio Screenshots : Comment 61 of 76ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 06-May-2002 16:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 60 (gz):
"As a side note, it would also be great to see ImageFX on MOS or AOS4x
I mailed novadesign for this and asked if they have had any preliminary plans of doing a port
for either platform but they said they don't so... :(
I guess we have to wait and see for business to pickup b4 we can expect any major software
titles."
ImageFX, like any current Amiga program, should work perfectly on
AmigaOS 4 and MorphOS, and much faster than it works on any current
Amiga. There's no need to wait for "ports".
New MotionStudio Screenshots : Comment 62 of 76ANN.lu
Posted by THE Editor on 06-May-2002 17:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 59 (Libra-75):
Thankyou Libra .... You took the words right out of my mouth ....
Its only recently that I bothered to change over completely to firewire. Y/C is plenty good enough for todays standards despite whats bandied about.
I believe it was Don who mentioned Audio synchronisation, Sir, you are SO right. As an example, I filmed a chinese wedding in London. Try syncing that bugger up !! Yeah, WELL HARD. Need LOTS of patience ... And system RELIABILITY. Try spending around two hours getting things just right and just as your moving your cursor to the save icon you get .................
.......................... Pure Virtual Function error ....................
This program has caused an illegal function and will now close .........
AAAAAAAAAArrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrGh .......
Kill .......... Kill ............. Kill .......... Kill
BTW ... preferred software for me is .... ~Uleads ..MediaStudioPRO.
Hey ..Ulead .. How about coding that for A1 / Pegasos.
New MotionStudio Screenshots : Comment 63 of 76ANN.lu
Posted by amigos on 06-May-2002 17:46 GMT
shame on them !!! :( it's a fake.
MotionStudio requirements
MotionStudio requires MorphOS V1.0 or higher
128MB RAM, G3 PowerPC with at least 400Mhz, Firewire for DV
supports Pegasos Computer from Bplan and
Tsunami and Torro Computers from Merlancia Industries directly
the gui timeline is made inside windows (me or 2k)
>http://www.titan-computer.com/motionstudio/motiontimelineShot.jpg
nice fake....
New MotionStudio Screenshots : Comment 64 of 76ANN.lu
Posted by gz on 06-May-2002 18:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 61 (Don Cox):
>>ImageFX, like any current Amiga program, should work perfectly on
AmigaOS 4 and MorphOS, >>and much faster than it works on any current
Amiga. There's no need to wait for "ports".
I know this, but it would be so much nicer to have a total ppc conversion for those OS's as it would mean even faster operation :) Also producing animation clips on IFX is painstakingly slow currently and I believe it will be kinda slow even if a g4 emulates 68k operation so...
Extra speed would also make it worth while adding totally new effects and previews which previously would have been too slow to do on an amiga.
New MotionStudio Screenshots : Comment 65 of 76ANN.lu
Posted by The Editor on 06-May-2002 19:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 64 (gz):
I was under the impression that IFX had a PPC optimised version.... I only have V3.0 on 68k but Im pretty sure Nova catered for PPC
New MotionStudio Screenshots : Comment 66 of 76ANN.lu
Posted by gz on 06-May-2002 19:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 65 (The Editor):
It's not ppc version of IFX itself, but a collection of some ppc modules to replace some of the 68k effects.
It would be great to have the whole program and ALL of it's effects in ppc.
I have made some effects for my videoediting using IFX 4 and the powerstation ppc effects, and it's been a pain (obviously as a 604e doesen't have enough powder) while waiting for a scene of 1024x768 and hundreds of frames to render :(
A dream come true would be if (as if...) the motionstudio developers and nova design would merge their products into one to create a videoediting software that has reliable editing AND spetacular amounts of filters and options to modify and produce visual scenes and effects.
Anyway that was just wild dreaming and as such is not meant to be taken seriously :)
New MotionStudio Screenshots : Comment 67 of 76ANN.lu
Posted by The Editor on 06-May-2002 20:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 66 (gz):
Hey, I dig that. Nothing wrong with dreaming... Its called phillosophie (shit forgot how to spell it) by another word.
New MotionStudio Screenshots : Comment 68 of 76ANN.lu
Posted by Samface on 06-May-2002 23:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 67 (The Editor):
The editor which didn't know how to spell? Now that was probably the funniest post in this entire thread. :-P
BTW: it's "philosophy". :-)
New MotionStudio Screenshots : Comment 69 of 76ANN.lu
Posted by cheesegrate on 07-May-2002 00:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 63 (amigos):
>shame on them !!! :( it's a fake.
we will see in july ...
New MotionStudio Screenshots : Comment 70 of 76ANN.lu
Posted by Raffaele on 07-May-2002 00:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 69 (cheesegrate):
Well, I saw the same screen a lots of time ago,
and I notice the thumbnail picture of the black boy wirh the painted face that came from Opal Vision Demos (if I remember well),
(it is on motionstudio main picture)
And I recognize the picture as a fake
...But as a fake in presenting keyframes... Nothing else...
I don't worry because when developing, there are strong temptation to show screeenshots of the program at their best,
or to hide features not implemented yet...
or hide features that you may want not to show before release of the program,
(to avoid competitors to develop same features on their software)
But as i said I don't worry because I wonder that there must be something real into this development of MotionStudio...
or maybe else they hadn't exposed theirselves to the risk to lose thier reputation...
Bye,
Raffaele
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Posted by Raffaele on 07-May-2002 01:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 58 (Don Cox):
Hello Don Cox,
You wrote in answer to some doubts I explained...
R.
>> "Amiga One has no Firewire ports but
>> you can easy add some by connecting a PCI card,
>> as someone intelligently said...
>> but this all means to cope with IRQ, timing and other probs...
>> (Yes To live under the dictatorship of a BIOS chip
>> makes the AmigaOne similar to a PC) "
D.
> My understanding is that both AmigaOne and Pegasos use Open Formware
> rather than a traditional BIOS. You are right about IRQ conflicts
> being a problem on PC hardware with PCI slots, although it may not be
> as bad as it was with ISA.
I talk to a friend of mine who recently update his PC mainboard to a model supporting the new *APIC??? standard* (I don't understand it well)...
This standard doubles IRQ on a PC so he now has no more IRQ conflicts...
Same as on an Amiga or a PPC (without BIOS chip to access hardware)...
I hope if the AmigaOne, Morphos can implement this feature only by upgrading the BIOS chip (or the Open Firmware -formware?- as you wrote)...
Nice news on the PC side... no more IRQ conflicts... Hoooray...
(I Think it is good to know it for the Amithlon users)
Bye,
Raffaele
New MotionStudio Screenshots : Comment 72 of 76ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 07-May-2002 06:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 66 (gz):
"A dream come true would be if (as if...) the motionstudio developers and nova design would merge their products into one
to create a videoediting software that has reliable editing AND spetacular amounts of filters and options to modify and
produce visual scenes and effects. "
That is exactly what ARexx is for. All properly written Amiga programs
can cooperate like this.
We did some interesting video effects by using the PAR together with
ImageMaster, for instance. There was no need for the manufacturers to
have any special agreements - both programs have ARexx ports.
New MotionStudio Screenshots : Comment 73 of 76ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 07-May-2002 06:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 70 (Raffaele):
"And I recognize the picture as a fake "
The guy designing the look of the GUI will obviously do it as a
constructed image in Photoshop or whatever. That isn't a fake, it's a
stage in the design process.
Similar to the AOS4 screenshots that were posted. They don't claim to
show the finished thing.
Also, it may not be possible to do a straight screen grab of a program
with video running in a window.
New MotionStudio Screenshots : Comment 74 of 76ANN.lu
Posted by Raffaele on 07-May-2002 10:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 73 (Don Cox):
Yes, I agree...
Bye.
New MotionStudio Screenshots : Comment 75 of 76ANN.lu
Posted by Elektro on 07-May-2002 14:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 74 (Raffaele):
Raffaele: Are you talking about ACPI?
New MotionStudio Screenshots : Comment 76 of 76ANN.lu
Posted by Raffaele on 07-May-2002 18:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 75 (Elektro):
Mr. Elektro posts a clarification to some statements I wrote:
> Raffaele: Are you talking about ACPI?
Sure it is a standard! Sure it has got a name, but I cant be precise...
If you are talking about the fact that the standard I talk about:
i.e. to double the number of IRQ on a PC...
...it has got the name ACPI, and you are sure about it, then thanks for your clarification Elektro...
Bye,
Raffaele
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