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Posted on 29-May-2002 11:18 GMT by Teemu I. Yliselä34 comments
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AMIGA-Magazin published an OS4 article by Steffen Häuser in their latest issue. The article, which reveals some new details, can be read here (in german).
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 1 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by alan buxey on 29-May-2002 09:25 GMT
...the funny thing is, i really didnt have to
use the babelfish to translate this interview either
...all the new important information pretty much leapt
out from the web page... MesaGL 4, new font engine,
divX support (with new datatypes....i thought
this wasnt until 4.1??) , XML support, full roadmap
plans to OS 5.x, ...and OpusII magellen seems to be
an optional addon. i wonder if we should have
AmigaOS 4 home
AmigaOS 4 pro
?
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 2 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Marcus Sundman on 29-May-2002 09:29 GMT
Here is altavista's translation to english:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/tr?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amiga-magazin.de%2Fmagazin%2Fa06-02%2Famigaos4%2Findex.html&lp=de_en
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 3 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Reg on 29-May-2002 09:59 GMT
Are these pictures new?? AmiDock with sub-docks and RoadshowTCP. I haven't seen them before.
http://www.amiga-magazin.de/magazin/a06-02/amigaos4/os4_4
http://www.amiga-magazin.de/magazin/a06-02/amigaos4/os4_5
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 4 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 29-May-2002 10:12 GMT
I draw attention to the caption to the photo which says they got their new hardware in April. Maybe those who have been so noisy in their opinions and "proof" that the boards do not exist or will not be shipped yet can please now shut up.
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 5 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Robert on 29-May-2002 10:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Marcus Sundman):
Hi Marcus,
> Here is altavista's translation to english:
I couldn't get the link to work & my grasp of German gets worse wit every passing year.
I thought it said something about being in talks with bPlan? Or is my Deutsch worse than I thought?
Liked the screenshots, too.
Cheers,
Robert
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 6 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Marcus Sundman on 29-May-2002 11:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Robert):
Oops, the page seems to be translated only halfway through.
Try one of these links instead (at least the first should work):
http://www.systranbox.com/systran/box?lp=de_en&id=SystranSoft-en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amiga-magazin.de%2Fmagazin%2Fa06-02%2Famigaos4%2Findex.html&f=1022677227
http://www.tranexp.com:2000/InterTran?type=url&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amiga-magazin.de%2Fmagazin%2Fa06-02%2Famigaos4%2Findex.html&text=&lang=gereng
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 7 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Marcus Sundman on 29-May-2002 11:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Marcus Sundman):
Naturally you have to remove the spaces that this forum software inserted into those URLs.
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 8 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Solar on 29-May-2002 12:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Robert):
"Außerdem ist das Entwicklerteam von Amiga Inc. mit bPlan im Gespräch, um AmigaOS 4.0 eventuell für den PPC-Rechner »Pegasos« anzupasssen. Im Moment gibt es für die Entwicklungspläne aber noch keine Bestätigung von Amiga Inc. oder bPlan."
"Moreover, the development team of Amiga Inc. is in talks with bPlan, to perhaps adapt AmigaOS 4.0 for the PPC system »Pegasos«. Currently there is no confirmation of the development plans from Amiga Inc. or bPlan."
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 9 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Rodney McDonell on 29-May-2002 12:10 GMT
Wow this is a huge article... The biggest of seen on this topic in a while :) - Gee, would be cool to have decent translation... We allknow what good altavista/bablefish is at this!
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 10 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by zaphod beeblebrox on 29-May-2002 12:31 GMT
Sweeeeeeet.
PPC Native MUI
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 11 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 29-May-2002 12:32 GMT
Please don't call it MesaGL. That is not its name, just because Amigans are universally ignorant of copyright and trademark law doesn't mean you can't follow simple instructions from the author of the software.
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 12 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Rik Sweeney on 29-May-2002 13:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Anonymous):
Then what is it? Please enlighten us since you claim to be smarter.
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 13 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Henning Nielsen Lund on 29-May-2002 13:26 GMT
This translation works for sure :o)
http://www.translate.ru/eng/url/tu_body.php?&autotranslate=true&url=http://www.amiga-magazin.de/magazin/a06-02/amigaos4/index.html
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 14 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Henning Nielsen Lund on 29-May-2002 13:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Rik Sweeney):
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Please do not refer to the library as MesaGL (for legal reasons). It's just Mesa or The Mesa 3-D graphics library.
* OpenGL is a trademark of Silicon Graphics Incorporated.
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You can read it here: http://www.mesa3d.org/about/intro.html
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 15 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by z5 on 29-May-2002 13:45 GMT
I for one believe in the project. I hope OS4.0 is the first step in the rebirth of the best Operating system ever. And i hope Hyperion are able to build a good foundation for the future. Because this is just what OS4.0 is about. Building a good foundation on modern hardware. People will get excited again if it's good. And then the fun stuff starts, making it better with every new OS update. Adding modern features...seeing it growing and becoming better.
At least give them a chance.
Such work takes time, after all, microsoft is working for how long now on their OS with how many developers? And it still sucks.
Go for it, Hyperion!!!!!!!!!!
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 16 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Ole-Egil Hvitmyren on 29-May-2002 13:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Henning Nielsen Lund):
Ok, so Mesa 3D GL (can't keep me from shortening Graphics Library to GL, can you?) is enough to make everyone happy? Cheesus... ;)
Anyway, nice to see the mesa homepage refer to warp3d for amiga support :)
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 17 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Henning Nielsen Lund on 29-May-2002 13:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Ole-Egil Hvitmyren):
Jeps ;o)
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 18 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Ole-Egil Hvitmyren on 29-May-2002 14:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Henning Nielsen Lund):
Jeps #1, #2 or both? :)
Oh well, you probably meant both, right? (to keep misunderstanding to a minimum, I had two topics in that post, one about the name, the other about the reference. Yes, I'm paranoid about misunderstandings ;) )
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 19 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Henning Nielsen Lund on 29-May-2002 15:03 GMT
Yes of cause ;o)
By the way, I made them change it!
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 20 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Ole-Egil Hvitmyren on 29-May-2002 15:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Henning Nielsen Lund):
Made _who_ change _what_? ;)
Ah, I see. It says "Mesa 3D" now. At least one place, I can see another MesaGL still there </nitpick> ;)
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 21 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Henning Nielsen Lund on 29-May-2002 15:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Ole-Egil Hvitmyren):
Ok, He only changed it one of the places :o( He said it was changed ;o)
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 22 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Chris Kelley on 29-May-2002 16:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Henning Nielsen Lund):
SGI is pretty anal about the use of the abreviation "GL". Here are their guidelines for using the OpenGL logo's and trademarks in print:
http://www.sgi.com/software/opengl/license.html
I think the Mesa project ran into some problems a few years ago when they called themselves MesaGL. That's why the Mesa folks included the disclaimer in their documentation.
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 23 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Crumb on 29-May-2002 18:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (alan buxey):
As the next moovid version is going to support divx i guess they will put a cut-down version like h&p did with OS3.9
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 24 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by CubiQue on 29-May-2002 19:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Crumb):
Noone mentioned moovid to be bundled with the OS or anything alike. It breaks down to datatypes and codes, so I hope they'll not ship the OS with crippled datatypes. OTOH we already have shareware datatypes for some formats... mmmmh, maybe...
I dunno at all, forget it :)
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 25 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by coldfire on 29-May-2002 20:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Henning Nielsen Lund):
I believe we can call it any thing we want. MesaGL is how it's commonly called, like it or not.
jeez...
coldfire
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 26 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Henning Nielsen Lund on 29-May-2002 20:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (coldfire):
>I believe we can call it any thing we want. MesaGL is how it's commonly called, like it or not.
I know, I call it Mesa** too, but we may not call it the GL thing!!!
I don't want "Mesa 3d" to get any problems with "sgi"!!!
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 27 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by StillPeeved. on 29-May-2002 22:57 GMT
Again... Enough with the bloody stupid nitpicking over a friging name... Who gives a shit. Can't you just be happy to see the progress, to think "hey, we really are gonna get something new here"...
Pull in your heads and stop talking crap about naming conventions..
Shees... I'd sware you lot don't want a new OS/hardware. Just new reasons to bitch and whinge.
Please. If the ONLY reason you are still active in the Amiga Community is because it fullfils your need to be disappointed so you can then complain... Go somewhere else!
I for one am more than happy with the progress.. Please try and look at the positive side...
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 28 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 30-May-2002 03:41 GMT
Looks interesting; haven't had a chance to read the full translation yet. Cute way of handling 'dockdrawers.'
UI gripe of the day: The 'dialer' window in http://www.amiga-magazin.de/magazin/a06-02/amigaos4/os4_5.jpg admonishes the user to use the proper programs, but doesn't say what/where they are. If all it'll actually do is launch the right utility for the task, why not acknowledge it and clue the user on the alternate method?
Not a big deal, for sure.
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 29 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by do on 30-May-2002 04:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Anonymous):
"Please don't call it MesaGL. That is not its name, just because Amigans are universally ignorant of copyright and trademark law doesn't mean you can't follow simple instructions from the author of the software"
Can you imagine how much friendlier everyone in these threads would be if we were within reaching distance while having these discussions?
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 30 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Ole-Egil Hvitmyren on 30-May-2002 04:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (do):
Oh yeah. You thinking of giving the insulting anonymous trolls a good clout? ;)
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 31 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by cheesegrate on 30-May-2002 04:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (StillPeeved.):
> Again... Enough with the bloody stupid nitpicking over a friging name... Who >gives a shit. Can't you just be happy to see the progress, to think "hey, we >really are gonna get something new here"... ]
exactly why i support morphos as well as aos4.0 ;)
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 32 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 30-May-2002 08:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (do):
Well *I* wrote that and *I* certainly wouldn't be friendly if you met me in person. Ask the BeOS people who had the bad luck to evangelise their dead OS to me at s friend's party.
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 33 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by Samface on 30-May-2002 09:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (Anonymous):
And *You* are anonymous so why would anyone care?
AMIGA-Magazin OS4 article : Comment 34 of 34ANN.lu
Posted by patrick on 01-Jun-2002 00:46 GMT
Dear Amiga Fanatics,
I been an Amiga user for over ten years. I love Amiga computers and the OS. To me Morphos dosen't even exist it's not Amiga OS. Just ignore Morphos and it's users and they will go away and go else where. Why should we even give a fuck what they say it's not Amiga. This is an Amiga site if you want them gone ignore them Please. I just don't wanna see these Morphing assholes anymore. We will get our Amigaone and OS4.0. Amiga has heritage something Morphos doesn't have. If we ignore them they we go away and feel alone. You can curse me to hell but I will just ignore you people something Amiga users should of done a long time ago. If Amiga users would have just done that long ago there would be no Morphos. Just ignore everything Morph because it's you the Amiga user giving Morph what it needs to thrive. The more we feed them the bigger they get. Oh, incase you Morph people say I need to get a life I do have a life. I'm married and expecting a baby on the way. I also I have a job and lots of friends but Amiga is my best friend.
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