| Posted on 02-Jun-2002 16:37 GMT by Elwood | 85 comments
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I uploaded on Aminet a video in Mpeg showing the AmigaOne booting
TurboLinux.
Hi,
This video is old (March 2002) and not professional in any way (in fact, it never meant to be).
I originally wanted to upload it on my website instead of putting this huge file on Aminet but my
ISP didn't allow me this. So here it is, to make Aminet even bigger !
Remember this AmigaOne is the prototype (G3/600Mhz) and it runs TurboLinux. And I must confess,
I never seen a Linux booting that fast. I'm excited to get my hand on AmigaOS4...
Thanks.
Elwood
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| Posted by cOrpse on 02-Jun-2002 14:43 GMT | | Kickarse :D , i would like to see an openBSD port for the amiga one , its one of my os loves ;) oh and amiga os 4 that'd be even nicer :D |
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| Posted by Marcus Sundman on 02-Jun-2002 14:51 GMT | | Btw, the file is pix/mpg/AmigaOne.mpg |
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| Posted by cOrpse on 02-Jun-2002 14:57 GMT | | Got the first meg of video ( 56k :( ) and the thing gets login in around 1 sec ! now that impressive. |
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| Posted by DaveW on 02-Jun-2002 15:08 GMT | In reply to Comment 3 (cOrpse):
It boots no faster than Linux x86 on a very good x86 box.
Noisy hard drive ;-)
If AmigaOS4.x boots up in exactly 1 second - basic install - on an A1 @ 600Mhz then I will be a happy man.
Time to log off, my dog has just farted and it could melt through the walls.
<gag>
Dave. |
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| Posted by Marcus Sundman on 02-Jun-2002 15:12 GMT | In reply to Comment 3 (cOrpse):
> the thing gets login in around 1 sec
You must have seen some other video than I did. Mine shows a computer booting and the login prompt appears after _7_ seconds. However, that is 7 seconds from the beginning of the _video_, not from when the computer was turned on. For all I know it could have been booting for half a minute before the video starts. |
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| Posted by Christophe Decanini on 02-Jun-2002 15:17 GMT | In reply to Comment 1 (cOrpse):
Corpse:
I hope you enjoy what you would call a french prick video done with french prick people in a country of french pricks posted by a french prick and moderated by a french prick.
If we had users account I would definitely have banned you from this site for insulting me and all my fellows.
Onevision:
I see you had hard times with Linux ;)
Too bad I could not attend to the meeting. I would have helped you :)
NAYA:
We would like to know about the low budget version of the case.
Would it be possible to have a version that does not look updside down, with front panel ports ? |
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| Posted by DaveW on 02-Jun-2002 15:17 GMT | In reply to Comment 5 (Marcus Sundman):
Aaah the power of having the window open and the fan going.
I get 4 and a half seconds on the stop watch from start of the video with the frame rate of recording higher than the frame rate of playback. The calculator, factoring in the playback difference, indicates that its about 4 seconds.
Probably 5 seconds overall with initial kernel load.. still impressive for what is basically an untuned Linux.
I love the holographic screensave projections of people moving back and forth, three-d stripey shirts etc. Must be the next gen Matrox tied to Ami3d ;-)
Dave. |
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| Posted by DaveW on 02-Jun-2002 15:19 GMT | In reply to Comment 6 (Christophe Decanini):
??????????????????? |
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| Posted by Marcus Sundman on 02-Jun-2002 15:31 GMT | In reply to Comment 7 (DaveW):
> I get 4 and a half seconds on the stop watch from start of the video
It's completely irrelevant what you get on a stop watch.
The login prompt appears on frame 169 which is 7.042 seconds from the start of the video. |
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| Posted by Darrin on 02-Jun-2002 15:32 GMT | In reply to Comment 6 (Christophe Decanini):
@ Chris,
Bloody hell mate, I know France lost the opening game of the World Cup, but what's got into you today? :)
Somebody posted something I missed? |
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| Posted by 4pLaY on 02-Jun-2002 16:16 GMT | | I think this movie should have stayed unreleased! it was very bad indeed! i could have made something bether in 5mins. |
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| Posted by cOrpse on 02-Jun-2002 16:23 GMT | In reply to Comment 11 (Christophe Decanini):
in french pricks i mean thendic france, and insulting you and others regularly ? get off the high horse , i could neither give and shite about youu or how u feel but if my opionin of certain people from their past ( mainly cuz they stole my money and many others ppc cards ) is offending please get some help. |
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| Posted by DaveW on 02-Jun-2002 16:52 GMT | In reply to Comment 13 (cOrpse):
@corpse
Hmmmmm
If someone had put "those English pricks" about Eyetech I would be as equally offended.
@frameratejunky
Well thanks for the caustic tone, interestingly I did my factoring the wrong way, because it was showing at 18fps it was *skipping* frames NOT showing all of them. Therefore when I do the division the other way I get the same figure as you. |
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| Posted by cOrpse on 02-Jun-2002 17:01 GMT | In reply to Comment 14 (DaveW):
"If someone had put "those English pricks" about Eyetech I would be as equally offended. "
Why ? if its targeted at *Eyetech* or Thendic france as i did why should it matter to you ? If we're gonna be offended because someone else is disliking someone of the same nationality americans should all be offended when microsoft bitching goes down , but you don't see that happening do you ?
Personally i don't brand myself as english , british , whatever , I'm me and not sommeone because of where i was born/live.
What i meant by my comment was " I wish Thendic france would piss off , cuz their stirring shit "
"don't call me white" - NoFx . |
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| Posted by Christophe Decanini on 02-Jun-2002 17:11 GMT | In reply to Comment 13 (cOrpse):
"in french pricks i mean thendic france"
- 1 - Thendic is not a company directed by French people.
- 2 - Saying french pricks is insulting : I feel insulted
- 3 - Insulting Thendic or any other company that are actualy doing anything for us is aggravating for the communauty.
You said several time that you had a problem with your powerpc card.
Neither BPLAN nor Thendic has anything to do with that.
This is not only for you Corpse but generaly for all people here that never did anything for the Amiga and spread shit on the last people that helped us to keep our Amigas and to offer us a future. |
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| Posted by Hagge on 02-Jun-2002 17:13 GMT | booooring
i've seen linux before, a g3@600MHz isn't fast and i want amigaos. |
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| Posted by Christophe Decanini on 02-Jun-2002 17:18 GMT | In reply to Comment 15 (cOrpse):
What about the people saying "these jew pricks", "these black pricks" ?
What about saying "I do not trust X company" instead of saying "these French pricks" ?
In order to live into a communauty you need to have a minimum of social ability.
What would you think if I say that you sound like these Americans uneducated pricks ? |
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| Posted by cOrpse on 02-Jun-2002 17:26 GMT | In reply to Comment 16 (Christophe Decanini):
"in french pricks i mean thendic france"
"- 1 - Thendic is not a company directed by French people."
Exactly
"- 2 - Saying french pricks is insulting : I feel insulted"
The exact words where *these* french pricks i do believe , not the french are pricks. Except all those little bitchy port blocking exercises don't leave your nation in a very good light and the current move to the right isn't nice also.
"- 3 - Insulting Thendic or any other company that are actualy doing anything for us is aggravating for the communauty."
Name one thing Thendic have done ? They've touted Bplans board as the next *Amiga* and spread alot of shit.
"You said several time that you had a problem with your powerpc card.
Neither BPLAN nor Thendic has anything to do with that."
Morphos :
Site clearly states that some of their members where involved in producing these cards , being a bplan partner ....
DCE:
Site contains pictures of peagsoses being produced , company well known for stealing ppc cards and taking money to repair them , Luckily i know a fair few people that are soon going to take legal action.
"This is not only for you Corpse but generaly for all people here that never did anything for the Amiga and spread shit on the last people that helped us to keep our Amigas and to offer us a future."
Well over past few weeks i have developed some quite interesting apps , but they have to stay internal until i can write up a license that ensures it stays on the platform i want but is also open source. Other then that i have been trying to create some very detailed amiga newbie documents.
"last people that helped us to keep our Amigas and to offer us a future."
Right . |
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| Posted by Elektro on 02-Jun-2002 17:39 GMT | | What the hell is that rumbling sound?! LOL! |
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| Posted by Anonymous on 02-Jun-2002 17:49 GMT | In reply to Comment 19 (cOrpse):
>company well known for stealing ppc cards
Oh and I always thought the owners sent DCE the boards by free decision, stupid me.
>and taking money to repair them
First they steal and then they repair?
You are so funny! :-D |
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| Posted by Younos Salim on 02-Jun-2002 17:49 GMT | where can i found this video ??????????
(: |
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| Posted by redrumloa on 02-Jun-2002 17:51 GMT | In reply to Comment 16 (Christophe Decanini):
> and spread shit on the last people that helped us to keep our Amigas and to offer us a future
Amigas? That's what alot of people take issue with. |
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| Posted by cOrpse on 02-Jun-2002 17:51 GMT | In reply to Comment 21 (Anonymous):
they took money to fix cards , people sent their cards and then the cards disappered . DCE never answer the peoples e-mails , phone calls and still have the time to update their website |
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| Posted by cOrpse on 02-Jun-2002 17:54 GMT | In reply to Comment 22 (Younos Salim):
Its currently on the front page os us.aminet.net , should be on the mirrors by now tho |
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| Posted by Anonymous on 02-Jun-2002 18:08 GMT | In reply to Comment 19 (cOrpse):
cOrpse: You do know that, if I'm not mistaken, DCE also produced the original AmigaOne prototypes? |
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| Posted by cOrpse on 02-Jun-2002 18:17 GMT | In reply to Comment 26 (Anonymous):
Yes , Another reason i thankgod that eyetech decided to go for a teronCX based board phew :) |
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| Posted by redrumloa on 02-Jun-2002 18:24 GMT | In reply to Comment 27 (cOrpse):
>Yes , Another reason i thankgod that eyetech decided to go for a teronCX based board phew :)
The fact that DCE apparently will be producing the Pegasos is enough reason for me not to buy one. I don't like throwing my money away. bplan will have to make MOS run on the AmigaOne for me to consider buying it. That is if the legality is straightened out of course.
If MOS makes it to the market(legality) and it runs on the AmigaOne, I'll buy it and give it a shot. Tripple booting MOS, AOS4.0 and LinuxPPC would be cool:-) |
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| Posted by SteveW on 02-Jun-2002 18:28 GMT | Hmm video was shot on March and 2 months later in Leuvarden they have nothing more to show as a OF boot screen??
Thats a really slow progress. |
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| AmigaOne Mpeg : Comment 30 of 85 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Anonymous on 02-Jun-2002 19:04 GMT | Wow. This explains EVERYTHING...
Rose criticised the Pegasos video for showing the PC being set up because she was feeling defensive about this A1 video! What did she have to say about it?
"I'm surprised you could make out anything on the screen, the refresh rate being exactly what was required to get maximum unusability."
On the Pegasos movie I can clearly recognise the application software (and Rei + Asuka standing in the snow of course) once it's up and running, although it is very badly affected by flicker during the boot sequence.
OTOH What we see of the A1 in this video (we see a lot of wine glasses, partly constructed cases and of the people, but not so much of the A1 hardware or the LinuxPPC system running on it) is barely readable at any time. I can recognise Netscape and at one point the GIMP, but I can't see which version (I know it's old because our splashscreen hasn't looked like that for years)
So what do we learn? (1) Neither camp have learned not to film monitors with ordinary video cameras (2) I like Neon Genesis: Evangelion (3) Alan can't choose secure passwords (4) Rose isn't smart enough to know when to keep quiet |
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| Posted by Christophe Decanini on 02-Jun-2002 19:07 GMT | In reply to Comment 23 (redrumloa):
"> and spread shit on the last people that helped us to keep our Amigas and to offer us a future
Amigas? That's what alot of people take issue with."
I'am speaking generaly about the company that helped these last years including Eyetech, DCE, Elbox, ....
And if you (or Corpse) speak about the MorphOS people I really think that without Frank Mariak and Ralph Schmidt most of us would not be here today. Without Cybergraphx and Phase 5 accelerators / GFX card I would have been gone for years.
I understand that some people may not want to order any related DCE product because of the very poor support but I won't bet that DCE is producing the Pegasos. Even if it would the problem only come from the poor support, not the production itself.
But go back to the thread.
I think that this video shows that the Amigone HW work fine with Linux. I would be glad to see AmigaOS 4 alpha running on it . I also like the AmigaOne XE better for my needs. I wish Eyetech could bring these boards to the Amiga communauty not long after the G3 AmigaOne.
I think that Alan did a great job honoring the needs of the HW base for a future OS. The decision to ditch the original AmigaOne was a good decision. I would like to know if the AGA on PCI card project is moving on. |
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| Posted by alan buxey on 02-Jun-2002 19:08 GMT | ..could you all just grow up a bit...or is that too hard to do?
I'm finding myself SO humiliated by being associated with
some of you 'Amiga fans' - especially since I have
recommended some serious folks to ann.lu to catch
up with Amiga news.
sheesh! looks like NOTHING can be done to please some
of you....who have nothing better to do than throw
insults around....go back to USENET where such 'talents'
are wanted....or leave altogether please...so we can rebuild
what Amiga was..and needs to be
Alan - very pissed off with some people on these 'news sites' :-| |
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| Posted by Marcus Sundman on 02-Jun-2002 19:13 GMT | In reply to Comment 30 (Anonymous):
> (4) Rose isn't smart enough to know when to keep quiet
How so? Although the quality of this video was even worse than the pegasos video that doesn't make the pegasos video any better than it was (and thus is). |
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| Posted by Anonymous on 02-Jun-2002 19:22 GMT | In reply to Comment 33 (Marcus Sundman):
Nor does that still change the fact that both videos were quite welcome and provided to us through unofficial channels which is good considering their quality.
I say both were nice for their purpose - giving a glimpse to the community. |
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| Posted by darklite on 02-Jun-2002 19:25 GMT | In reply to Comment 6 (Christophe Decanini):
He's not worth your time... |
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| Posted by [ujb] on 02-Jun-2002 19:28 GMT | Please don´t blame the French people here generaly. If anybody has a personal problem with anyone special, don´t make that mistake to do a transition to a whole group or nation or generalize in some other form.
That´s why we had WW2! Keep open minded.
So this is my solidarisation with France (except for soccer.. Germany will get the cup!! :-) )
And don´t blame DCE, they are friendly people and the only one in the world who are still repairing PPC Amiga-stuff. If you pay in advance it´s your fault...
If they don´t repair the things as fast as you would like to happen it´s because of the lack of parts. I waited several month for a repair of my BlizzardPPC but when they got those missing parts they called me up, did the repair within 24 hours send it all back and I got a fair bill for that.
DCE´s mistake is that they havn´t pointed out exactly which parts they in need of (e. g. it is 603 cpus, connectors for BVision, Flashes etc.). |
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| Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 02-Jun-2002 19:39 GMT | In reply to Comment 19 (cOrpse):
If you did say "That Greek prick" *I* would be insulted even if it wasn't
targeted at me. Watch your mouth. |
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| Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 02-Jun-2002 19:41 GMT | In reply to Comment 19 (cOrpse):
Stealing PPC cards? If you do have the guts to call them you can get it back...
Unrepaired cause they are in the factory for a reason... Waiting for parts.
As for the money.... If it's their card they don't charge anything except
postage... If it's a Phase5 card OF COURSE they will charge money. |
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| Posted by Christophe Decanini on 02-Jun-2002 20:09 GMT | In reply to Comment 35 (darklite):
Yep, you are right.
I don't know why I keep answer too him. Maybe a desparate effort to have his mouth shut. |
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| Posted by Troels Ersking on 02-Jun-2002 20:14 GMT | Another thread completely ruined by Corpse AND Christophe Decanini...
You two guys just keep the endless discoussion going... Could you eventually exchange email adresses and free ANN from your crap discoussions..Please?
Why the hell can't you Christophe, accept that Corpse's stupid remark about "the french pri..." wasn't targeted at you or other french people exept those at Thendic (where most aren't french?).
And Corpse... I think we have heard enough about your crappy PPC card. If you are so unsatisfied with DCE, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! I know I would have done something a long time ago if it was me who had a problem with them. But you, you just complain here on ANN, like thats gonna help anyone.
Please continue your discoussion in private, it becomes really boring to see the usual comments from you two guys here on ANN. |
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| Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 02-Jun-2002 20:16 GMT | In reply to Comment 40 (Troels Ersking):
Cause Christophe got enough of him... As I did... |
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| Posted by smithy on 02-Jun-2002 20:54 GMT | >Remember this AmigaOne is the prototype (G3/600Mhz) and it runs TurboLinux
These AmigaOne developer boards that ship with Linux.
How exactly do you develop OS4 applications with Linux? Does it have some kind of developer kit? |
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| Posted by cOrpse on 02-Jun-2002 21:25 GMT | In reply to Comment 41 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
No i think its all the real amiga people have had enough of you lot.
The most hypicritical bunch of arses on the known earth , Yeah we'll bitch Microsoft because of what they've produced in the past but if its amiga , on no we should just ignore it.
You can't deny that Morhpos pride themselves on being involved with this hardware , its on their site , and you can't deny that they didn't listen to us when we wanted a free choice of ppc kernel. Whats to say they've changed now? their telling dce not to support os 4 , sounds abit like the whole free choice issue again.
There again many of you people don't understand what it was to be part of the amiga thing and what these people stole from us , You'd rather hide behind talking head petro.
I suggest most of you go back to your kiddie linux groups and wank over some new harddrive controller.
BTw. I do have a bitch with eyetech , i got a shitty keyboard adaptor ... I'd bitch about that but it hasn't killed a few amiga's which could have happily been given away to expand the community. |
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| Posted by Hagge on 02-Jun-2002 23:17 GMT | smithy: i think the apps is developed on cyberstorm ppc cards, or, i don't think anyone code any apps but if they did...
i'm quite amazed over the ppl thinking it booted fast, to begin with it's not possible to tell because you don't see the whole boot.
and IT CAN'T BOOT FAST, because the cpu is still just a ppc g3 at 600mhz, and the name amiga won't change that fact, why would linux boot faster on a motherboard called amiga something than with another motherboard... |
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| AmigaOne Mpeg : Comment 46 of 85 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by do on 02-Jun-2002 23:45 GMT | In reply to Comment 14 (DaveW):
"If someone had put "those English pricks" about Eyetech I would be as equally offended."
Everyone was all hunky dorey with "Uneducated Americans" however |
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| AmigaOne Mpeg : Comment 47 of 85 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by cOrpse on 03-Jun-2002 00:30 GMT | In reply to Comment 46 (do):
Its about time everyone just gave up , when site moderators start fights and then try to blame it on the person they started on it gets very boring very fast.
The next couple months will be interesting and will clear the air , for the time being everyone leave everyone else alone.
Neways i've got better things to sort out then this , Like for one why do files on my pc randomly check out and not check out on MD5 sums , and how to stop moths flying into the fan on my blizzard vision getting dragged along and eventually mashed up inside the blizzard lol. |
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| AmigaOne Mpeg : Comment 48 of 85 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by amigammc on 03-Jun-2002 01:51 GMT | In reply to Comment 30 (Anonymous):
Only difference being:
The POS video was filmed with the intention to make it public
The AmigaOne video was not made with that intention, otherwise it would have been published two months ago.
Personally, I think both parties should not give anything away until their products are being used by more than a small bunch of people. Which is: show everything or nothing. |
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| Posted by Elwood on 03-Jun-2002 05:56 GMT | | Sorry I had to remove the file, some people (for an obscur reason) didn't want to be seen on it... :( |
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| AmigaOne Mpeg : Comment 50 of 85 | ANN.lu |
| Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 03-Jun-2002 06:12 GMT | In reply to Comment 44 (cOrpse):
REAL Amiga people? Who are you to define who is a REAL Amigan and who is not?
>I suggest most of you go back to your kiddie linux groups and wank over some >new harddrive controller.
I suggest you to watch your mouth.
BTW, if Laire and CyFM didn't exist we wouldn't even have a proper RTG system
by now... No EGS was not a TRUE RTG system, you had to make EGS specific apps
to use 24bits for example. Even the original Picasso 2 software on which P96
is based is written by CyFM.
If P5 (including Laire) didn't exist, we wouldn't have PPCs, so no Hyperion games and no OS4 to develop now.
ALL the Amiga Companies supporting the classic Amiga and/or the OS did a MAJOR
mistake... They didn't leave 10 years ago... The Amiga "community" doesn't
appreciate anything... |
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