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Posted on 16-Jun-2002 05:45 GMT by Mark Olsen221 comments
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AWebPPC for MorphOS has been released. After 7 days of work, AWebPPC is finally available for the public.

Enjoy this fast PPC browser.

Downloads:
Binaries (622kB) - Readme
Sources (1536kB) - Readme
AwebPPC released : Comment 51 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 16-Jun-2002 11:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 47 (redrumloa):
I would point you to an FTP, but it's private:)
AwebPPC released : Comment 52 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by 3seas on 16-Jun-2002 11:50 GMT
from releasing the source under such terms as APL to having it ported in a week, to ....well there hasn't been enough time to improve it yet...
This will be a good example of the value of such licensing and how it enable moving forward regardless of all the political IP bitch slapping.
Good going guys!!!!
AwebPPC released : Comment 53 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Björn Hagström on 16-Jun-2002 11:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 50 (Ben Yoris):
:)
/Björn
AwebPPC released : Comment 54 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Jun-2002 12:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (Bill Hoggett):
"What you are really doing is making a point that the MorphOS version is NOT and Amiga version. That's trolling."
I'm not following, I *asked* for an Amiga version and that is trolling because it's saying that the current version isn't an Amiga version? I'm sorry but it's obvious that version of AWeb is for an alternative OS to AmigaOS, right? And since I'm an AmigaOS user I simply asked if there is going to be an Amiga version of that AWeb version, there's no trolling about it.
AwebPPC released : Comment 55 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 16-Jun-2002 12:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 54 (Anonymous):
You asked for a version that runs on Amigas. It RUNS on Amigas, but not
with AmigaOS... BTW, you're free to compile the sources for 68k....
AwebPPC released : Comment 56 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Mic on 16-Jun-2002 12:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 49 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Everyone is going on about FLAIMBAIT!
If it is so apparent to you that it's flaimbait and you are not willing to give him the benefit of the doubt (i.e. misunderstanding), Then why do you respond.
IMO your flames are worse than the question that started them.
If someone just responded by saying there are no plans yet for an AOS version then there would not have been so much Hoohaa about it! I would expect that to be an intelligent response
If you think some people like to post flambait then I also think some people love to flame.
This has really become the attitude here at ANN recently.
AwebPPC released : Comment 57 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Yoris on 16-Jun-2002 12:11 GMT
WAHAHAHAHAHAH :)
Again ! AGAIN !!!
YAHAHAHAHAHAHAH :))
AwebPPC released : Comment 58 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Jun-2002 12:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Chris Roccati):
>AOS4 *WILL HAVE* PPC IBrowse
May I ask an IB insider if it will be really a PPC version or just a new 68k IB?
AwebPPC released : Comment 59 of 221ANN.lu
In reply to Comment 46 (Martin Blom):
Message removed by CK for violation of ANN's posting rules.
Specific reason from moderator: No foreign languages allowed
AwebPPC released : Comment 60 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Jun-2002 12:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 57 (Ben Yoris):
Ben, you took one of Bill's happypills??
Watch out, we don't want you to get a heart attack... B-)
AwebPPC released : Comment 61 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by David Shipman on 16-Jun-2002 12:39 GMT
hey Christian, how about a comment filter.... if I could read everything that doesn't contain the words "flame", "troll", or "real Amiga" it'd be much nicer
of course, that really wouldn't leave all that much to read... ;)
AwebPPC released : Comment 62 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by anarchic_teapot on 16-Jun-2002 12:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 57 (Ben Yoris):
Ben Yoris wrote:
"WAHAHAHAHAHAH :)
Again ! AGAIN !!!
YAHAHAHAHAHAHAH :))"
Definitely with you on that one. Pass the popcorn, Ben, and get the book out. I'll have three jellybabies and a Fun Size Mars bar on the one in the blue corner with straws in his hair and the eyes revolving in opposite directions.
AwebPPC released : Comment 63 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Graham on 16-Jun-2002 12:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (Samarse):
Ha! You call yourself Samarse then have the temerity to accuse him of making a childish post.
So far in this thread I have seen Samface ask a question regarding a native PPC Amiga version, and then about 20 MorphOS fanatics jumping on him and regarding his post as a troll, whilst behaving much worse themselves. It appears the sensitive people here are the MorphOS using ones.
Also, AWeb uses Reaction yes? And Reaction is part of OS3.5 and 3.9, so MorphOS is still using parts of 68k AmigaOS to run? Will MorphOS have a native Reaction when it is completed and available? If not, then AWeb still does not run natively on MorphOS... because MorphOS will not be able to use any AmigaOS 68k binaries or libraries in its final version.
Also, please can someone at bPlan make the MOS beta-testers test under NDA? It hardly appears from reading ANN that it is a beta, it appears to be a release that just happens to have a sub-1.0 version number. There seems to be many people using it and commenting on public forums about it, and it is still using 68k AmigaOS components. If the public perception is that MorphOS has been released already (as MorphOS fanatics like to say all the time - MorphOS is available now, etc) then AInc/Hyperion can use that in their legal arguments against you and the use of MorphOS with AmigaOS binaries.
Just trying to help the MorphOS people out here, btw. It would be stupid for the OS to get sh*t upon because a few "beta"-testers kept saying too much on online public forums.
AwebPPC released : Comment 64 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Phill on 16-Jun-2002 12:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 45 (Samface):
> Please tell me what I said that was so offending? I asked a perfectly neutral
> question, is people really right when flaming me for it?
LOL, who cares. If you weren't trolling then why are you getting worked up about it? Either you're doing it on purpose or you've got a natural born ability to wind certain people up.
Asking for someone to do something for you without giving anything in return is kinda rude. If someone wanted to do a PPC version of Aweb for AmigaOS then they would.
Or are you saying people should only do what you want?
AwebPPC released : Comment 65 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Samface on 16-Jun-2002 12:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 64 (Phill):
I didn't ask for someone to do it, I asked *if* there's going to be one.
AwebPPC released : Comment 66 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Samface on 16-Jun-2002 12:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 63 (Graham):
I actually thought "Samarse" was quite funny. I really did laugh out loud. :-)
AwebPPC released : Comment 67 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Henning Nielsen Lund on 16-Jun-2002 12:53 GMT
[Quote]
The AWeb Open Source programming team has produced its first releases:
AWeb 3.4 APL for AmigaOS 3.x 68030
AWeb 3.4 APL for AmigaOS 3.x 68040
These are preliminary versions for testing purposes. No plugins or
online-documentation is available right now.
Download them from http://aweb.sunsite.dk
Enjoy...
--
Regards
Henrik Mikael Kristensen
[/Quote]
AwebPPC released : Comment 68 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Jun-2002 12:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 63 (Graham):
>Also, AWeb uses Reaction yes? And Reaction is part of OS3.5 and 3.9
AWeb also runs with OS3.1, no?
AwebPPC released : Comment 69 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Samface on 16-Jun-2002 13:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 68 (Anonymous):
Still not a property of bPlan or the MorphOS team.
AwebPPC released : Comment 70 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by StAn on 16-Jun-2002 13:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 68 (Anonymous):
Yes.. and ClassAct is freely available. So no problem AFAICS.
AwebPPC released : Comment 71 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Jun-2002 13:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 69 (Samface):
What, OS3.1? Didn't some people have a license from back in Phase5 days...? :-)
Is Reaction commercial software and "not to be used with MorphOS"?
AwebPPC released : Comment 72 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by StAn on 16-Jun-2002 13:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (StAn):
"Why are you talking about emulating the 68k ?"
Oops.. just realized Voyager uses MUIPPC and AWeb uses ClassAct-not-PPC-at-all... :-}
AwebPPC released : Comment 73 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Samface on 16-Jun-2002 13:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 70 (StAn):
You're right, accusing the MorphOS version of AWeb for beeing illegal simply because it runs on MorphOS would be going about the bush and pointless since it's not even commercial anyway.
AwebPPC released : Comment 74 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by anarchic_teapot on 16-Jun-2002 13:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 71 (Anonymous):
Someone who doesn't want to be identified wrote:
"Is Reaction commercial software and "not to be used with MorphOS"?"
Good question. Since it's installed with the OS in v3.5 and v3.9, it is safer to assume that yes, it is part of commercial AOS and cannot be included in MOS.
Unless you know of the original author releasing the code as Open Source...?
AwebPPC released : Comment 75 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by DJ on 16-Jun-2002 13:30 GMT
You know, it amazes me how an interesting piece of news like this can cause a flamewar, it's totally rediculous. I applaud anyone who takes the time to bring us something new to the "Amiga" scene, regardless of whether it's AmigaOS, MorphOS or Amithlon or whatever.
AwebPPC released : Comment 76 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Jun-2002 13:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 63 (Graham):
So, according to your post, anyone who accuses Samface
of trolling is a MorphOS user? Now you're trolling.
I've criticised Samface of trolling (comment nine) but
have never even seen MorphOS let alone used it. I simply
can't stand political martyrs (like samface) scoring points
off perfectly legitimate posts that just happen to involve
MorphOS. The quicker Samface and his soft mates understand
that MorphOS is a perfectly legitimate upgrade option
for Amiga users (this port of AWeb is further proof of this)
the better.
AwebPPC released : Comment 77 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Julian Cassin on 16-Jun-2002 13:50 GMT
If it only took 7 days for someone to make a PPC version of AWeb for MorphOS - probably someone who would be less familiar with the sources than the original developers, it makes me wonder why the original developers didn't just make a PPC version of AWeb months ago - heck, I would have bought it.
AwebPPC released : Comment 78 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Julian Cassin on 16-Jun-2002 13:54 GMT
Anyway, another reason to look forward to a final MorphOS release!
I really wonder which I'll enjoy more though, MorphOS or AmigaOS 4 - lucky I have a couple of PPC Amiga's to upgrade.
AwebPPC released : Comment 79 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by 4pLaY on 16-Jun-2002 13:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 77 (Julian Cassin):
Maybe he didnt have a PPC card? maybe he didnt like MOS? maybe maybe maybe :-).
AwebPPC released : Comment 80 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Jun-2002 13:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 77 (Julian Cassin):
>makes me wonder why the original developers didn't just make a
>PPC version of AWeb months ago - heck, I would have bought it.
For which native OS, LinuxPPC? ;-)
AwebPPC released : Comment 81 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Julian Cassin on 16-Jun-2002 13:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (oslasron):
I'd consider a WarpUP port if it was faster than the 68K version - it would be something neat to use until the final release of MorphOS.
AwebPPC released : Comment 82 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Julian Cassin on 16-Jun-2002 14:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (Gabriele Favrin):
I agree. MorphOS is similar enough to AmigaOS 3.5 for me to consider. If AmigaOS 4 is different enough, I may not like it. In the end, I don't give a sh*t which company makes the OS I like most, at this point in time it is Amiga OS 3.5 - as MorphOS isn't a final version yet. But time will tell, perhaps I'll get both AmigaOS 4.0 and MorphOS if I like them both.
AwebPPC released : Comment 83 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Ben Yoris on 16-Jun-2002 14:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 62 (anarchic_teapot):
:))
Hey I didn't notice that reading ANN was funnier than watching TV best comedies !
And it's FREE !
C'mon C'mon guys ! AmigaOS 4 suxx, Morphos stinx c'mon !!
AwebPPC released : Comment 84 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by CDog on 16-Jun-2002 14:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Jacko):
I'm really liking Mozilla 1.0 on
Mac OS. Seems faster than IE! I hope
AMozilla will happen someday soon.
AwebPPC released : Comment 85 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Johan "the other one" Forsberg on 16-Jun-2002 15:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 46 (Martin Blom):
> This message has been removed by CK since it violated one or more of ANN's
> posting rules. Specific reason from moderator: No foreign languages allowed
Oh great, now we're all going to have to learn Lithuanian. ;-)
AwebPPC released : Comment 86 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Jun-2002 15:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 85 (Johan "the other one" Forsberg):
It's Luxembourgian (sp?)!
AwebPPC released : Comment 87 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Adam Kowalczyk on 16-Jun-2002 15:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 79 (4pLaY):
Maybe he had a PPC card and it died ;) Or he was just tired of waiting for the new hardware. You can only go hungry for so long.
AwebPPC released : Comment 88 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 16-Jun-2002 15:43 GMT
hmmm nice work for the morphos people , someone compile up a warpos version too :D. I'm working a nice internet app for amigaOS , details to come later :)
AwebPPC released : Comment 89 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Christian Kemp on 16-Jun-2002 15:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 85 (Johan "the other one" Forsberg):
"Foreign" as in non-English. My point being, I cannot judge the content of a comment if I can't understand the language.
.lu is for Luxembourg though, not Lithuania.
AwebPPC released : Comment 90 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 16-Jun-2002 15:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 63 (Graham):
> because MorphOS will not be able to use any AmigaOS 68k binaries or libraries > in its final version.
Huh?
AwebPPC released : Comment 91 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Jon on 16-Jun-2002 16:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 67 (Henning Nielsen Lund):
Wonderful! Thank you :)
AwebPPC released : Comment 92 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Eva on 16-Jun-2002 16:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 45 (Samface):
You are a stupid dick.
Close your eyes and take in your bottom this good AMIGA software stupid flamer.
PS
Excuse me for my "words" but, really, start a stupid flame also for the good job of an AMIGA PROGRAMMER...
Really Samface is an idiot, not a man.
AwebPPC released : Comment 93 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by TBone on 16-Jun-2002 17:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
> Could you stop starting flamewars on every thread and then pretend to be
> innocent and to be waving the white flag in the middle of 2 camps?
heh, you noticed that too? ;)
AwebPPC released : Comment 94 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 16-Jun-2002 17:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 93 (TBone):
I noticed that long ago, but it's the first time I say that calmly:)
AwebPPC released : Comment 95 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by gunatm on 16-Jun-2002 17:32 GMT
The 68k-versions (020,030,040) have also been released today! ;-)
AwebPPC released : Comment 96 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by kjetil on 16-Jun-2002 17:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 83 (Ben Yoris):
>:))
>
>Hey I didn't notice that reading ANN was funnier than watching TV best comedies !
>
>And it's FREE !
>
>C'mon C'mon guys ! AmigaOS 4 suxx, Morphos stinx c'mon !!
>
>Reply to this comment | Top
And it's interactive, not like RickyLake .
AwebPPC released : Comment 97 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Budda on 16-Jun-2002 17:57 GMT
On a slightly different note - has anybody attempted to use the GCC-fied AWeb source to roll an x86 compile of the binary? - for Amithlon use of course (!).
I'd give it a whirl if I had Linux installed to run the gcc cross-compiler.
AwebPPC released : Comment 98 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Graham on 16-Jun-2002 18:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 90 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Well it won't, that is what half of the legal problems are about surely?
MorphOS cannot ship with, or make use of, any libraries or code that forms part of AmigaOS (i.e., core parts, other parts if written by a third party should be able to be relicenced by bPlan of course for inclusion). This is apparently the reason that MorphOS is delayed because several parts (Intuition, etc) have had to be written from scratch (or from AROS) whereas before they were hoping to make users use the binaries from an existing AmigaOS installation under the 68k emulator.
Which would have been okay if Amiga had been completely dead. Unfortunately they are very much alive at the moment.
AwebPPC released : Comment 99 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 16-Jun-2002 18:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 98 (Graham):
You're talking b******t actually... You are able to install whatever you want
on MorphOS, but it can't be shipped with it, or need it to run.
It does and will be able to run 68k AmigaOS code.
+ClassACT(Reaction) is avaiable on Aminet.
AwebPPC released : Comment 100 of 221ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 16-Jun-2002 18:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 98 (Graham):
+The core parts were always planned to be PPC, with the legal problems, they
had to rewrite the rest of the OS and make a working Desktop.
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