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Posted on 16-Jun-2002 18:19 GMT by Henrik Mikael Kristensen43 comments
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The AWeb Open Source programming team has produced the first releases of AWeb 3.4. These will run on AmigaOS 3.x with versions for 68020, 030 and 040. Go to http://aweb.sunsite.dk for release information.
AWeb Open Source releases : Comment 1 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Henrik Mikael Kristensen on 16-Jun-2002 16:23 GMT
Oops... the html-link is correct, but leave out the "www." part in the shown link. It should be http://aweb.sunsite.dk
AWeb Open Source releases : Comment 2 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 16-Jun-2002 17:19 GMT
Whats new in this version from the commercial versions ? or is it basically just a key free version ?
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Posted by TBone on 16-Jun-2002 17:25 GMT
nice, that was quick too!
So, what was needed to compile, the ClassAct developer kit? Or is it possible to compile without it now? The original release needed something, now that Its been worked around, I'm curious what it was?
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Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 16-Jun-2002 18:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (cOrpse):
This version is basically a version of AWeb which doesn't require the key. We are working to add more features, also with the contribute of Olaf Barthel, but we felt like distributing binaries of the original version, with only small fixes and the classact dependency removed, so that people could use it on their Amiga's right now. Expect soon a new release, with some major bugfixes solved and some internal enhancements which will make it shorter and a bit faster too.
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Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 16-Jun-2002 18:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (TBone):
> So, what was needed to compile, the ClassAct developer kit? Or is it possible to
> compile without it now?
since the "reaction" tag in the CVS, about three days old now, it's been possible compiling AWeb without the need for the classact SDK. The HEAD tag compiles just fine too, and the source base is almost all platform-independant now, which means that soonish you will get also versions for Amithlon and MOS, and later on AROS, everything from one source tree.
> The original release needed something, now that Its been
> worked around, I'm curious what it was?
Well, many SDK's were needed, like Classact. There's the need for the AmiSSL SDK, which is freely available now, there's also the need for the AmiTCP-SDK, and there's the need for the MiamiSDK. The latter has been worked around.
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Posted by z5 on 16-Jun-2002 18:26 GMT
respect to ppl working on this project! I think it really is worth it as the amiga needs a decent webbrowser.
Keep up the good work!!!!
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Posted by Alkemyst on 16-Jun-2002 18:43 GMT
cool Aweb for all.
IB for all would be cool as well
AWeb Open Source releases : Comment 8 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Jake on 16-Jun-2002 19:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Alkemyst):
Yepps!. this is great.
will there be an PPC version avail too?? coz there is no one right??...
AWeb Open Source releases : Comment 9 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Richi on 16-Jun-2002 19:55 GMT
What about a 060 version?
AWeb Open Source releases : Comment 10 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Radfoo on 16-Jun-2002 20:21 GMT
Worked great on my 030 A4000!
AWeb Open Source releases : Comment 11 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 16-Jun-2002 21:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Richi):
Here it is: http://aweb.sunsite.dk/AWeb3.4APL060.lha
AWeb Open Source releases : Comment 12 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Jerry Leik on 16-Jun-2002 21:29 GMT
This is very exciting. I have just taken an A4000T off the hands of a friend, and am glad to see that there is something new for me to play with since I've been out of the Amiga-loop for a while.
Thanks to all who are working on this project.
---Jerry---
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Posted by anonymous on 16-Jun-2002 22:31 GMT
On a related note, has anyone in the Amiga community ever taken a look at Mozilla as a porting prospect? The request seems to pop up quite frequently, but I've never seen anyone qualify if it would be feasible or not.
Just curious.
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Posted by 3seas on 17-Jun-2002 02:31 GMT
Yvon Rozijn the author of the Amiga internet web browser "AWeb"....
So say: "Thank You Yvon Rozijn"
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Posted by brotheris on 17-Jun-2002 03:55 GMT
Is it me or this version seems faster ?
Here I think that when I press back/forward on 100+ comments thread, it does its job faster. How could it be?
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Posted by Anders Kjeldsen on 17-Jun-2002 06:15 GMT
How about a Workbench 1.2 version? You know, a version you can run on Workbench 1.2?
AWeb Open Source releases : Comment 17 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 17-Jun-2002 06:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Anders Kjeldsen):
eh eh eh!! that was funny!! :-)
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Posted by Kelly Samel on 17-Jun-2002 07:06 GMT
If they switched compilers that could explain
why it's a bit faster. GCC is know to output
slightly faster code when using the optimizers
when compared to SAS/C, the original compiler
AWeb was compiled with... :)
AWeb Open Source releases : Comment 19 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by X on 17-Jun-2002 08:22 GMT
I can't wait to try this out on Amithlon... :)
I read something about Olof Barthel contributing
to the project. Could this be some sort of interface
for his TCP/IP stack. Going offline/online...
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Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 17-Jun-2002 08:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (X):
> I can't wait to try this out on Amithlon... :)
When the gcc port will be finished, then you'll get :)
> I read something about Olof Barthel contributing
> to the project. Could this be some sort of interface
> for his TCP/IP stack. Going offline/online...
No. Olaf contributed some patches which remove some bugs and do some internal enhancements.
AWeb Open Source releases : Comment 21 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Jon on 17-Jun-2002 09:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Anders Kjeldsen):
Seriously, can AWeb be made working on OS 3.0? Or does it already so? Does it need some components that older OSses don't have?
Asking if I could make it run on our other Amiga ;)
AWeb Open Source releases : Comment 22 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 17-Jun-2002 09:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Jon):
Well.. AWeb APL has been compiled using the ReAction includes instead of ClassAct. I don't know whether this stops it working on pre-OS3.5 machines, but if it still works with ClassAct, it'll work under OS3.0.
AWeb Open Source releases : Comment 23 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 17-Jun-2002 10:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Peter Gordon):
It still works with ClassAct.
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Posted by Bob Hawkins on 17-Jun-2002 14:02 GMT
I'd like to see the reactions of Nicolas Sallin, and the Anonymous who wrote "It's a hideous piece of coding. Any thoughts of continuing this project should be dismissed out of hand." However, I can't seem to find them.
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Posted by Ian Chapman on 17-Jun-2002 17:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (brotheris):
> Is it me or this version seems faster ?
> Here I think that when I press back/forward on 100+ comments
> thread, it does its job faster. How could it be?
Yeah I thought it felt faster than the commercial version of 3.4 I have. Thought, it was just my imagination, but I guess not :-)
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Posted by koan on 17-Jun-2002 19:11 GMT
Just wanted to say respect to Yvon and the guys working
on continuing the codebase.
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Posted by CDog on 18-Jun-2002 00:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (anonymous):
Like Mozilla 1.0 on my Mac clone. It's
seems a bit faster than IE and totally
smokes Navigator 4.7 on most web pages.
If AWeb can be made into something better,
I'm all for it, but Mozilla seems pretty
good right out of the "box". AMozilla
needs a good kick in the pants, if it is
still an ongoing project.
AWeb Open Source releases : Comment 28 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by coldfire on 18-Jun-2002 02:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (CDog):
I don't know why ppl keep crying about Mozilla for amiga. It's a huge program, much bigger than most amiga programs. It's written for machines with massive memory and fast processors. The idea of using something like that on a 040/25 amiga with 16MB and a CV64 graphics board(a decent spec amiga) is silly. Maybe you could port Gecko, the rendering engine in Mozilla, and make an amiga browser with it...and maybe that's not worth the trouble either. Best to take what we've got here and improve it.
coldfire
AWeb Open Source releases : Comment 29 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Robert Wilson on 18-Jun-2002 05:51 GMT
Whoops! I accidently e-mailed the 060 version to myself, and I only have an 030.
Thought I'd install it anyway & whaddayaknow? It worked & seemed to work better than the demo that came with 3.5.
I've just emailed myself the 030 version which I'll try tonight. I assume it'll work even better.
AWeb Open Source releases : Comment 30 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by kriz on 18-Jun-2002 08:02 GMT
yeah, respect to the developers working on this project!!
respect.
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Posted by CDog on 18-Jun-2002 11:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (coldfire):
As I said, I'm all for AWeb getting some new
development, but I never meant to leave the
impression that anyone should target a Mozilla
port to the 68K Amiga platform. I was really
thinking more of new PPC HW/SW now under de-
velopment.
That said, I was also commenting on how fast
Mozilla is on my current PPC HW (a Mac clone).
AWeb optimized for PPC should fly, but could
AWeb be brought up to speed/improved without
making it almost as bloated as every other
browser? If people want stripped down, less
feature laden browsers that's cool, but it
would be good to have a something that can
deal with more complex web sites (on the new
HW, at any rate).
AWeb Open Source releases : Comment 32 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 18-Jun-2002 12:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (CDog):
"That said, I was also commenting on how fast
Mozilla is on my current PPC HW (a Mac clone).
AWeb optimized for PPC should fly, but could
AWeb be brought up to speed/improved without
making it almost as bloated as every other
browser? If people want stripped down, less
feature laden browsers that's cool, but it
would be good to have a something that can
deal with more complex web sites (on the new
HW, at any rate). "
If you think what it needs - more Javascript, CSS, a Flash plugin -
there's no reason why it would end up more than 50% bigger than now,
unless Macromedia's player code is a monster.
AWeb Open Source releases : Comment 33 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Eldor C. Luedtke Jr. on 18-Jun-2002 14:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Fabio Alemagna):
>> I can't wait to try this out on Amithlon... :)
>When the gcc port will be finished, then you'll get :)
Works OK on Amithlon now, a version FOR Amithlon?
Sounds cool :)
AWeb Open Source releases : Comment 34 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by alan buxey on 18-Jun-2002 14:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (coldfire):
040/25 16Mb and CV64 - decent specced Amiga? in 1996 maybe
060/50+PPC 64Mb and PIV, CV_PPC or Voodoo3 is a decent spec'd Amiga in 2002
as a bare minimum 8-)
AWeb Open Source releases : Comment 35 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by StAn on 18-Jun-2002 15:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (alan buxey):
You must be kidding... any decent spec'ed Amiga has a 604 PPC @ 333 MHz plus a 68060 @ 80 MHz, 256MB of RAM and a 100GB Ultra wide SCSI hard drive..
AWeb Open Source releases : Comment 36 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Ian on 18-Jun-2002 15:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (StAn):
Yeah if you can find enough damn cards to give you 256MB of RAM!
AWeb Open Source releases : Comment 37 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by coldfire on 18-Jun-2002 22:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (CDog):
Mozzilla would certainly run better on ppc hardware but it's still a gargantuan job to port it. I have used it on linux (dual PII 333's) and it's definetely slower than both galeon and konqueror. It is extremely stable and feature ridden. Personally I can't see using a web browser for EVERYTHING like they do on the linux and windoze platforms. Given the limited resources on amiga I don't think you'll see mozilla soon as it would take a huge team.
coldfire
AWeb Open Source releases : Comment 38 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by coldfire on 18-Jun-2002 22:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (alan buxey):
Ah...an elitist. :) Actually 040/25 is a decent amiga. Not top of the line or power user status certainly but about average. Amazingly Ibrowse on my 040/25 A3000D was very snappy...about equivalent to IE on the PIII 600 at work on NT...when it's not crashed and awaiting tech support. ;)
Of course when it comes to running Windows media format animations the poor 040 can't keep up. btw....is there any way to display that crap under linux?
coldfire
AWeb Open Source releases : Comment 39 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Michael Taylor on 19-Jun-2002 04:19 GMT
Perhaps I missed it somewhere in all of this... Could someone post a Working link?
These don't seem to be working:
http://aweb.sunsite.dk/AWeb3.4APL060.lha
http://aweb.sunsite.dk
Perhaps problems with their servers?
They've left AWeb 3.4 & Other known Browsers wondering their location.
Thanks.
AWeb Open Source releases : Comment 40 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by o1i on 19-Jun-2002 06:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (Michael Taylor):
aweb.sunsite.dk was hit by a stroke of lightning, according to
http://www.amiga-news.de/de/news/AN-2002-06-00178-DE.html (german only).
Should be back soon.
AWeb Open Source releases : Comment 41 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Henning Nielsen Lund on 19-Jun-2002 07:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 40 (o1i):
There even was some small tornadoes in Denmark yesterday!!! I think that was the first time in danish history that someone saw a tornado in Denmark!!!
They didn't do much damage, but they where here!!!
AWeb Open Source releases : Comment 42 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Gibi on 20-Jun-2002 11:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (Michael Taylor):
The link is not working. What is this. Problems with server.
Maybe someone could send me compiled wersion of aweb for 020. I will be very greatfull.
AWeb Open Source releases : Comment 43 of 43ANN.lu
Posted by Jürgen Lange on 22-Jun-2002 10:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 42 (Gibi):
http://aweb.sunsite.dk is working again and you're able to download
their nice re-compile of AWeb 3.4. The 040-version is doing a nice job
on my Amithlon system.
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