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[News] New Aros PollANN.lu
Posted on 16-Jun-2002 21:25 GMT by 4pLaY27 comments
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There is a new poll at matts page consering Zune. Take a look here to know more ;).
New Aros Poll : Comment 1 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Matt Parsons on 16-Jun-2002 20:03 GMT
But as is common with Votes in the Amiga Community... the Logs show that some users are voting more than once... shame.
But please keep voting.
New Aros Poll : Comment 2 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Jun-2002 21:14 GMT
Is there any documentation on how to actually get it running under Linux. I DLed and installed Mandrake just for AROS, DL'ed the AROS for linux archive & extracted it. but being a Nix newbie, I can't get AROS to run.
New Aros Poll : Comment 3 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by 4pLaY on 16-Jun-2002 22:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Anonymous):
You could always drop by EFnet (http://www.efnet.org/ircdb/servers.php) and join #aros im sure there will be someone around that might be able to help you and if not wait or come back latter ;).
New Aros Poll : Comment 4 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 17-Jun-2002 00:46 GMT
Hm. The missing option: 'Zune' with the acceptable abbreviation of ZUI? Perhaps Zune can be the implementation, while 'ZUI' would be the API it tracks? (Not much familiar with MUI, let alone the reimplementation, so I don't know how much they differ..)
Is MUI/ZUI (in that naming convention) worth salt as another portability layer along the lines of Tk, GTK, WxWindows, whatever?
New Aros Poll : Comment 5 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Mike on 17-Jun-2002 01:33 GMT
Oh, how about "Aros User Interface" - no need for fancy names to confuse new users. Keep it consistant, keep it simple. IMHO
New Aros Poll : Comment 6 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Samface on 17-Jun-2002 03:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Mike):
Yes, exactly what I thought. ARG (Amiga Research GUI) would also work. :-)
New Aros Poll : Comment 7 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Björn Hagström on 17-Jun-2002 06:49 GMT
A bit off topic, but anyway, when will aros.org be up again?
/Björn
New Aros Poll : Comment 8 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by 4pLaY on 17-Jun-2002 07:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Björn Hagström):
"When its ready" :-)
New Aros Poll : Comment 9 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Björn Hagström on 17-Jun-2002 07:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (4pLaY):
Ohh, is it being remade?
/Björn
New Aros Poll : Comment 10 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by 4pLaY on 17-Jun-2002 08:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Björn Hagström):
Heh its been in the works for AGES several new designs have been put up (all MUCH MUCH bether then the current one) but none have been used yet! dont ask me why! ive nagged and nagged but... whell i dont think any of the new designs will be used this time either so its not that holding it up.
New Aros Poll : Comment 11 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by kjetil on 17-Jun-2002 08:20 GMT
Are there any effort to port Aweb to AROS?
New Aros Poll : Comment 12 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Björn Hagström on 17-Jun-2002 08:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (4pLaY):
Oki, should have been a dummy page there for now though IMHO. Perhaps with a link to one of the mirrors if they are still up ...
/Björn
New Aros Poll : Comment 13 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 17-Jun-2002 08:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (kjetil):
Yes, works are in progress
New Aros Poll : Comment 14 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 17-Jun-2002 08:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Björn Hagström):
The server is not offline, the problem is a DNS problem. Basically the www.aros.org name expired, or something like that.
You can still reach the original server at http://sbb.hepe.com or just use the SourceForge's mirror: http://aros.sourceforge.net.
New Aros Poll : Comment 15 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Björn Hagström on 17-Jun-2002 08:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Fabio Alemagna):
Ahh, okey. Thanks :)
/Björn
New Aros Poll : Comment 16 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by kjetil on 17-Jun-2002 09:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Fabio Alemagna):
Just for fun, I tested to compile the source code on Linux,
The morphos modified version, by just adding
#ifdef AMIGAOS
#include “exec/*” parts and adding
#endif
#define ULONG unsigned int
I got down to about 50 lines that can not be compiled, mainly in the aweb.c
I believe if you use the same sourcecode and renaming the
#ifdef __Morphos__ to #ifdef __AROS__
the source code will almost work.
PS. This the aweb source code is not well structured,
Routines are not sorted by there function in different header files,
they are mostly intermixed GFX gfx routines and web routines in the same aweb.c
New Aros Poll : Comment 17 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Graham on 17-Jun-2002 11:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Fabio Alemagna):
DNS for aros.org is working fine, and the domain expires in 2003.
It is just that www.aros.org points to 195.143.82.18 which is an unreachable host. When the new server is installed or they sort out hosting elsewhere, then www.aros.org will be updated in the DNS and should start working fairly soon afterwards.
Graham
New Aros Poll : Comment 18 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 17-Jun-2002 12:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Graham):
195.143.82.18 is the AROS server, which basically is sbb.hepe.com. I don't know why www.aros.org points to the other address.
New Aros Poll : Comment 19 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 17-Jun-2002 12:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Fabio Alemagna):
Oops, that was meant to be 151.26.70.235
:)
New Aros Poll : Comment 20 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Daniel Miller on 18-Jun-2002 00:02 GMT
Fun poll. You guys rule. I had to vote twice, to get back to the screen that links Matt's AROS page, sorry.
You are so close now. What is the future for AROS? Commercial? Do you worry about legal problems? Will it be free for everyone? Will you be able to do all the standard computing stuff: web browsing, word processing, video etc?
Good luck!
New Aros Poll : Comment 21 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Johan Forsberg on 18-Jun-2002 07:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Daniel Miller):
I voted twice, too. Once for "Zune" because it's a really cool name :-)
And once for "Perception" beacuse Intuition & Perception work well together.
New Aros Poll : Comment 22 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Mahendra on 18-Jun-2002 18:28 GMT
I'm not sure to understand. Will ZUNE be MUI compatible ? Or something
new only developped for AROS ? Or something new which could also be
used for instance in MorphOS or OS4 ? Same question about the Aros
WB replacement ? I hope it won't split the community once again !!!
New developments should be shared with MOS or/and OS4 !!!
New Aros Poll : Comment 23 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Rodney McDonell on 19-Jun-2002 06:35 GMT
I think the name should be called ZUI if this is a port of mui to AROS.
If this is basicaly an GUI API for AROS that impliments some MUI functionality, it should be called perception so that it releates to AmigaOS's Intuition!
New Aros Poll : Comment 24 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by 4pLaY on 19-Jun-2002 08:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Rodney McDonell):
It is NOT a port of MUI to Aros! Zune was developed for Linux as a MUI look a like! the dev stopped long ago! the Aros guys took over the sources and ported it to Aros! and now even the old developer of Zune is interested in developing it further for Aros ;).
New Aros Poll : Comment 25 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 19-Jun-2002 11:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (4pLaY):
More precisely, Zune is an Open Source implementation of the MUI API, therefore it's compatible with it at source level and even at binary level on Amiga's. Zune, as a matter of facts, is developed under AmigaOS rather than under AROS, and only a small amount of fixes here and there are needed, once in a while, to make it run under AROS too.
This basically means that when Zune will be enough mature, there will be a complete replacement for MUI under AmigaOS.
New Aros Poll : Comment 26 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Mahendra on 19-Jun-2002 13:47 GMT
Thanks for the replies. But I thought MUI was still under development ?
What is the point in replacing it (for AOS at least) ?
New Aros Poll : Comment 27 of 27ANN.lu
Posted by Fabio Alemagna on 19-Jun-2002 16:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (Mahendra):
1) There's not been any new MUI version since 1998.
2) The Zune author hasn't got an x86 linux machine on which tests and development can be done.
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