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[News] Thylacine Zorro USB1.1 Card Pre-Orders LaunchedANN.lu
Posted on 01-Jul-2002 00:40 GMT by A.Scott Pringle12 comments
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We are pleased to announce we are now taking pre-orders for the Thylacine USB1.1 Zorro Card.
The pre-order special is AUD$124.95+S&H+GST(if applicable).
We also have bundles including USB hubs and software available.
For more information please visit http://boing.net/blitz.html
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Posted by Lando/Trinity on 30-Jun-2002 22:50 GMT
I've never heard of this card before :) Seems Highway/Subway has been getting all the press. Will this card also be supported by Chris Hodges' USB stack? Or are separate drivers in development?
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Posted by A.Scott Pringle on 01-Jul-2002 01:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Lando/Trinity):
for questions please visit the forum on http://thylacine.boing.net
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Posted by James Burlington on 01-Jul-2002 04:10 GMT
OK as a long time Amiga user, who sold all his equipment and then went to Windows while still eyeing the Amiga and waiting for the day that I can come back to it, I have to add couple of points here:
To the developer, I am glad to see that people are still dedicating their time and resources to develope for such an old and outdated hardware.
But let's leave our passion and our memories and think about this for a second.
Doesn't this disturbe others here beside me?
I mean, give me a break, last month I added KW7102 Combo 1394 Firewire & USB 2.0 Hub 4 external 1394ports & 2 internal. 4 external to my PC at $64.
Now I don't want to turn this into another flame thread or an advacacy crap, but it IS distrurbing to me that there are Amiga users who will pay $129 + S&H for a Zorro based USB 1.1 card.
Give me a break.
Wouldn't all this make more sense and all this talent, energy and resources dedicated to this project spent better if trying to support PCI bus boards that I read that there are at least 2 of them out there, and write drivers for such a card which definately blows away anything that any Zorro card can offer?
I hate to sound like an asshole, but looks like the problem is in us users and developers too.
Excuse my frustration, I can't wait till the day that I can be able to use Amiga again, but looking at such news, I doubt that that will ever happen. :(
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Posted by Rene W. Olsen on 01-Jul-2002 04:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (James Burlington):
>Doesn't this disturbe others here beside me?
>I mean, give me a break, last month I added KW7102 Combo 1394 Firewire & USB 2.0 >Hub 4 external 1394ports & 2 internal. 4 external to my PC at $64.
Good for you. USB is a nice thing.
>Now I don't want to turn this into another flame thread or an advacacy crap, but >it IS distrurbing to me that there are Amiga users who will pay $129 + S&H for a >Zorro based USB 1.1 card.
You are for getting one thing the $129 is AUD not US. so if you convert it to US its about $68 US
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Posted by John Chandler on 01-Jul-2002 06:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Rene W. Olsen):
$68 (US) for a Zorro USB card is pretty damn good, considering the fact that the volume is going to be really low, meaning higher unit costs.
As for the recommendation for writing drivers for existing PCI cards instead: sure, that's a great idea but a) not everyone has (or needs) a 'classic' Amiga with PCI slots b) some developers like the idea of building their own hardware.
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Posted by Anonymous on 01-Jul-2002 07:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (James Burlington):
I'd probably agree with you if you were comparing the same currencies.
However, as you are not, I do not agree with you.
Clue - AUS$129 is US$72. Not an overly unreasonable price.
You were saying?
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Posted by Jaeson Koszarsky on 01-Jul-2002 09:32 GMT
I'd like to see mac emulators support the new USB boards. That would open the door to a great number of USB devices that don't and may never have an Amiga driver.
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Posted by redrumloa on 01-Jul-2002 10:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (James Burlington):
>Now I don't want to turn this into another flame thread or an advacacy crap,
>but it IS distrurbing to me that there are Amiga users who will pay $129 + S&H
>for a Zorro based USB 1.1 card.
Your basis is wrong. It is not $129USD. Even if it was, it would not be a ripoff. Why would someone buy it? Well if you actually still OWN a real Amiga, cheap standard USB parts would be very attractive! Ever see the going price for a NEW Amiga2000/3000/4000 keyboard? You'd probably have to drop $129USD to get one. So what if you owned an Amiga3000 and your keyboard went bad?
As for the existing PCI cards. They are nice and all, but do you realise they cost between $250 and $400USD?
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Posted by Lando/Trinity on 01-Jul-2002 14:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (James Burlington):
$129 AUD is a very good price. Especially for Amiga-specific hardware. Amiga hardware is / has always been expensive. A new A4000 keyboard is something like $60 USD - a PC keyboard is, say, $10 ?
The fact that Amiga hardware is expensive has both good and bad points. It's bad in that the initial outlay can be a lot, but the good thing is that, when you come to sell it, you're not going to lose a lot, as Amiga hardware holds it's value VERY well.
For Example... I bought a Mediator PCI 1200 busboard a year ago for 170, and a BlizzardPPC for 200. A few months ago, I upgraded to an A4000 with Mediator so I sold off all my A1200 kit. I got 140 for the Mediator, and 240 for the BlizzardPPC, meaning that I actually made a profit. Compare this with the PC world - Whenever I've upgraded my PC and sold the old components, I've only got between 20 and 25% of what I originally paid. Value ? I think not...
In the long run, PC hardware is actually MORE expensive than Amiga hardware, because of the massive depreciation.
I have confidence in spending money on new hardware for my Amiga because I know that, when I come to upgrade later, I can still get back some of the money I've spent. I always have to think twice before spending money on my PC, because after a year the value has halved (at best) so its like throwing money down the drain.
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Posted by tinman on 01-Jul-2002 19:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Lando/Trinity):
You can only sell Amiga stuff at that price because there's nothing new to buy. And a lot of punters are stupid to fork out that kind of money.
PC depreciation is also a good thing - you can pick up systems for peanuts. Not everyone needs a microwave to write their Word docs on ;)
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Posted by Colmiga on 02-Jul-2002 12:08 GMT
Robert (the guy who designed this board) brought his Thylacine USB board around to our user group meeting tonight. All I can say is it is a cool bit of hardware and the price sounds reasonable too (being this is Classic Amiga hardware). He's currently in the process of making some drivers for USB ethernet adaptors (no camera or modem drivers yet though). We are going to be testing his board out in our machines (including mine) at our user group's next workshop meeting (July 14). He appears to have designed this board in his own spare time so it would be good if he managed to sell a few. It would also show our appreciation for his effort. Once I've seen it in action I might put in a pre-order.
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Posted by |Lando| on 03-Jul-2002 21:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (tinman):
>You can only sell Amiga stuff at that price because there's nothing new to
>buy. And a lot of punters are stupid to fork out that kind of money.
I'd say it's more stupid to spend a grand on a new PC which will be outdated in a year and worth a quarter of what you paid for it.
>PC depreciation is also a good thing - you can pick up systems for peanuts.
Yeah, its a good thing only if you want an old machine and don't mind not being able to run any of the software you see in the shops. A very bad thing if you have just naively bought a new PC.
When I was at University in the late 90's a guy I knew was trying to sell his PC. He's bought it for 1400 a couple of years earlier and couldn't understand why nobody seemed interested in buying it at what he thought was a bargain price of 800.
I didnt have the heart to tell him that he could kiss his money goodybe and he'd be lucky to get 100 for it. You see, first-time computer buyers dont understand the depreciation in the PC world. They think that buying a PC is like buying a TV. They dont realise that buying a new PC is actually the equivalent of flushing your money down the toilet. Macs and Amigas are a much better bet in that respect.
>Not everyone needs a microwave to write their Word docs on ;)
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