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Posted on 01-Jul-2002 10:54 GMT by Denso36 comments
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Frogger 2.0 (aka NG) preview released! Its been a while since last Frogger release, but I belive it was worth waiting ;) Version 2.0 has been basically written from scratch, and can now play, besides mpeg and str movies, also avi (Windows Media), qt (Quicktime), rm (RealMedia), asf/wmv (Advanced Streaming Format) and roq (ID games movie format) files. See features to learn more about what this baby can do for you.

You can download version for PPC (PowerUP, WarpUP and MorphOS) as well as 68k version here. Most of audio/video codecs are now distributed as external plugins, so remember to download codecs, either ppc or 68k, depending on what version you prefer. Please note, that this release should be considered as beta, with lot of things still missing, and with lot of bugs (some known, check included documentation for more info, and some still waiting to be discovered...)

frogger homepage
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 1 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by IanG on 01-Jul-2002 10:54 GMT
I never reg'd Frogger as it was so unstable on my machine. :-( Perhaps this rewritten version will be better. I hope so as it was otherwise a nice program.
Does the AVI support include IntelIndeo and other formats not often supported outside of Windows?
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 2 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Sebastian Jedruszkiewicz on 01-Jul-2002 11:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (IanG):
Indeo (all versions) will be added in one of next releases. You can see list of supported media formats/audio&video codecs <A HREF="http://frogger.rules.pl/features.html">here</A>.
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 3 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Leki on 01-Jul-2002 11:22 GMT
rm (RealMedia), asf/wmv (Advanced Streaming Format) support!
great...at last we can play them formats on our amigas :)
can anyone say how good the RealMedia playback is? i`m curently without a ppc amiga :(
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 4 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 01-Jul-2002 12:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Sebastian Jedruszkiewicz):
It plays the cat-herding commercial, which the previous version
wouldn't.
I just registered it. Special thanks to Sebastian for doing a 68k
version, which works well on Amithlon.
It starts up with a plain green screen and seems to be waiting for a
missing splash animation?
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 5 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 01-Jul-2002 12:30 GMT
And YES! It supports SORESON! SVQ1!
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 6 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Fab1 on 01-Jul-2002 12:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Don Cox):
>It starts up with a plain green screen and seems to be waiting for a
missing splash animation?
It looks for frogger.iff according to snoopdos.
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 7 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Sebastian Jedruszkiewicz on 01-Jul-2002 12:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Fab1):
oops... I forgot to include this file in archives. Ill put it in separate archive, and place online today.
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 8 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Anders Kjeldsen on 01-Jul-2002 13:15 GMT
Is Soft Cinema and Frogger melting into one movie player?
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 9 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 01-Jul-2002 14:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Anders Kjeldsen):
They already melted into one:)
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 10 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by IanG on 01-Jul-2002 14:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Sebastian Jedruszkiewicz):
That's a very impressive list! (Nice looking website, too, BTW!)
Just wondering if there's any technical reason why some of the decoders are PPC only? I appreciate that you (and other sane people) may think that they'd just be far too slow on 68K, but if it's a simple recompile thing it wouldn't hurt to have a 68K version, even if it runs at 0.5fps. :) Ah... I remember watching those early raytraced demo mpegs on my unexpanded A1200... painful. ;-)
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 11 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Mad-Matt on 01-Jul-2002 15:37 GMT
Was this version coded in basic, amos maybe or the recent amiblitz ?
its overall speed is piss poor compared to the last non beta. its unusable now.
dont tell me it was remade this way, for benefit of amithlon users with 2ghz cpus ?
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 12 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 01-Jul-2002 17:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Mad-Matt):
It is a PREVIEW! It hasn't been optimized yet.
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 13 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Mad-Matt on 01-Jul-2002 17:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
thats what i was thinking, but still it shiuldnt be so slow surly in a preview state ?
also it crashes on basics such as window resize.
i tell you, its not getting good reports in channels like #amihelp and #morphos.
but im happy to wait n see how it eventually turns out.
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 14 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 01-Jul-2002 17:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Mad-Matt):
It is the first beta, what do you expect? BTW, I'm in both channels right now,
so...:)
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 15 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 01-Jul-2002 18:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Does it? Curious how Xine has just been released with SVQ1 support
and as if by Magic, so is Frogger. Hmmm. What licence was Xine released
under again?
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 16 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 01-Jul-2002 19:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Anonymous):
Maybe you should have a look here:
http://www.highantdev.de/frogger/bin/plugin_src.lha
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 17 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 01-Jul-2002 19:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Anonymous):
Please ignore. Was a misunderstanding.
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 18 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Sebastian Jedruszkiewicz on 01-Jul-2002 19:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Anonymous):
Its not a secret. I wrote in docs, that its based on xine decoder, and also svq1 plugin sources are available at http://frogger.rules.pl/downloads.html
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 19 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Budda on 01-Jul-2002 20:18 GMT
Shame the RealPlayer codecs are PPC only :(
But I guess we can;t have everything!
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 20 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by hexaae on 01-Jul-2002 20:42 GMT
The real prob of Frogger (also all pre 2.0b versions) is that is damn unusable: a lot of Enforcer hits, crashes with buggy videos, crashes if playing audio+video on AGA, crashes if you play a bit with its controls (play, stop, pause rapidly) etc. :( It WOULD BE a great player if it wasn't so unstable and probably completely ASM coded (which in 2002 is not a very good idea under a OS friendness point of view...). If it would be rock stable and all those codecs would work I'd be the first to register!
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 21 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Jaeson Koszarsky on 01-Jul-2002 23:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (hexaae):
I like Frogger better than most other players. Even QT5 on my Mac at work will choke on some files & crash. I recall that happening back when there was only the anim5 codec to worry about too :^) I'm glad to see it still maturing and being supported.
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 22 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Panzon on 02-Jul-2002 04:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (hexaae):
Hex non si può avere tutto dalla vita
Hex you can have all in thy life.
Frogger runs damn well. I read some divx, rm and asf.
The asf have to be fixed a bit because two on three doesn't run.
But the rest...simply make Frogger THE video player on our miggy.
At last a word on the Morphos version.
Fast is the good word to describe it and I can image how it will run on the Pegasos!
Thx!
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 23 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 02-Jul-2002 06:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Budda):
We really do need to have all the codecs available in 68k as well as
PPC.
The big omission is a codec for Amiga anim files. Of course these are
tricky because they may be in Ham8, or have pixels that are not square
(the file header tells you), but we really do need a good player for
anims on modern graphics cards. Multiview does a very poor job, and
doesn't loop play.
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 24 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Nicholai Benalal on 02-Jul-2002 08:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Don Cox):
>We really do need to have all the codecs available in 68k as well as
PPC
Well, doesn't matter what we need. It's simply impossible since the codecs only exist in binary form and not for m68k
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 25 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 02-Jul-2002 15:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Nicholai Benalal):
Where do they come from, then? I assumed they would have to be
recompiled for PPC.
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 26 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Jul-2002 16:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Don Cox):
It "simply" uses the codec from RealPlayer for LinuxPPC so they are already compiled for PPC
CPU's.
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 27 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Crumb on 02-Jul-2002 19:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (IanG):
I prefer RiVA, it's a lot faster than any frogger version on my 060/60+picasso4. And I am sure that the next MooVid version will be better also. Frogger's autor should try to optimize his code a lot because it is damn SLOW. Now before someone jumps to bite my throat, try the RiVA demo and you will see what is optimized code.
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 28 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 02-Jul-2002 20:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Crumb):
Frogger 2.0 is more than MPG (RiVa), QT and AVI (MooVid).
It supports a whole range of formats like WMV(asf) and RM.
Soon it will be able to playback encoded DVDs (like AMP).
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 29 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 02-Jul-2002 20:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
I mean encrypted.
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 30 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by José on 03-Jul-2002 09:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Crumb):
Hi. Just by curiosity, how many FPS do you get with that setup?
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 31 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Tomasz Kaczanowski (Kaczus) on 03-Jul-2002 09:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Crumb):
Optimizing for 68k it is a waste of time.
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 32 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 03-Jul-2002 12:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (Tomasz Kaczanowski (Kaczus)):
Not really, because Amithlon on a fast Athlon gives you approx a
700MHz 68k, which plays animation files at a good speed.
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 33 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Andrew Deacon on 03-Jul-2002 18:30 GMT
Anyone got the Real Media codecs. I've downloaded the Linux PPC files but
have no way to open it.
I'd be grateful if anyone could send me the codecs.(Please mail me first as
I don't want to download them several times)
Has anyone got them working? Can you actually stream files or just play them?
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 34 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Sebastian Jedruszkiewicz on 03-Jul-2002 18:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Andrew Deacon):
browse tvision list archives at yahoogroups, someone posted link to extracted codecs there.
No, it does not stream rm files.
Comment 20:
bug reports welcome...
comment 22:
If Ill get those asf that causes problems I could probably fix it...
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 35 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by Andrew Deacon on 03-Jul-2002 19:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (Sebastian Jedruszkiewicz):
Thank you , just found the codecs.
Frogger 2.0 preview : Comment 36 of 36ANN.lu
Posted by StAn on 04-Jul-2002 14:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (Don Cox):
Your numbers mean absolutely nothing. But anyway, since your amithlon is so fast (?), it is useless to optimise the 68k codecs.
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