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Posted on 01-Jul-2002 11:05 GMT by NoBeForMe31 comments
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Sales figures for AmigaAnywhere reveal a huge smash for the $50 prize draw coupon. The $50 coupon is breaking all previous records for the AmigaAnywhere site. Not only did it out sell the AmigaAnywhere Entertainment Pack last week, but it has beaten the all time best seller PlanetZed. In fact, the coupon has outsold all Arcade games combined, including not only Planet Zed but also such favourites as Batty and Blobula.
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Posted by 4pLaY on 01-Jul-2002 09:22 GMT
Yep and sad it is when there is not more then 300 sales
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Posted by o1i on 01-Jul-2002 09:34 GMT
top seller!? maybe they should do more promotions and (even) less real
products ;).. at least they know now, how many T-Shirts to order..
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Posted by José on 01-Jul-2002 09:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (4pLaY):
Yap. Most people probably want to see some tests and impressions before buying, either AmigaOS4, or AmigaOne. And other wait for at least the socketed version of A1. Me wait for G5!!:) I'll get AmigaOS to run on a blizzard though.
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Posted by priest on 01-Jul-2002 09:57 GMT
just came to my mind that ... has AI asked user groups about how many Amigans/interested people visit their happenings?
I think it would give much better view to the amount of possible AmigaOne buyers... Let me see... in Finland 500 visitors ... 200-300 potential buyers?
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Posted by deeq on 01-Jul-2002 10:07 GMT
how about poll here in ann? iirc there have been polls some time ago.. would give Ainc some figures how many potential buyers there are.
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Posted by Ben on 01-Jul-2002 10:33 GMT
Heck - I wanna see the T-shirt before I spend fifty bucks on it!!! ;)
Seriously.
Hey - if they put some new OS4 screenshots on the t-shirt I am sure you would be able to sell at least 100,000! ;)
Ben
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Posted by cOrpse on 01-Jul-2002 10:36 GMT
not flaming amiga inc here ( i'm pro amiga inc :P ) , but i'm slightly worried that the coupon has sold around 300 and its number one , does this mean that the sales figures for everything else are below 300 and therefor not great or am i just worrying too much?
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Posted by IanG on 01-Jul-2002 10:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (José):
The decision is yours to make as you see fit, but bear in ind that if nobody buys the first A1's because everyone is waiting for the later ones, they'll never actually bother to make any more...
Sad, but true.
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Posted by Golem on 01-Jul-2002 10:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (cOrpse):
Have you noticed it says "Top Weekly Sales (23-Jun-2002 to 30-Jun-2002)"?
Golem
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Posted by cOrpse on 01-Jul-2002 10:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Golem):
Yeah i understand its only for the week , i just thought it'd be more . but if you work it out its probaly enough to cover amigas ass which is good :D
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Posted by Golem on 01-Jul-2002 11:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (cOrpse):
Yeah, and maybe with 2 more weeks (scnr) they'll reach 2500 members ;-)
Golem
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Posted by Teemu I. Yliselä on 01-Jul-2002 12:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Golem):
Actually, you'll notice the coupon is also at the top on the "Top all-time sellers"-list. So, it indeed seems that none of the games available there has sold over 300 copies.
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Posted by Frank213 on 01-Jul-2002 12:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Ben):
They probably haven't even decided about the t-shirt :)
Maybe if they don't get enough orders, they won't print
any t-shirts either. :)))
Ahh the Amiga market sucks too much nowdays...
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Posted by Bert Dorhout on 01-Jul-2002 12:56 GMT
I think this is somewhat mysterious (took it from the Amiga coupon status page):
"Countdown to the draw: 2 weeks, 4 days, 16 hours, 47 minutes, 40 seconds (ends 0900 GMT, July 20, 2002)"
Either me or Amiga can't count.... ;-)
Or was this on purpose?
Now will we ever know how many coupons were sold July 7th?
And call me dumb, but there is one question I still have:
If I'd buy the coupon, would I, upon buying say OS 4, get my 50 Euro back, or do I get my 50 Euro back AND another 50 Euro, making it a DISCOUNT instead of just a prepayment?
Bert
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Posted by Anonymous on 01-Jul-2002 12:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (o1i):
>top seller!? maybe they should do more promotions and (even) less real products ;).
I hear Petro was very successful in keeping Amiga .de in business by selling
all those funky Amiga accessoires. ;-)
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Posted by o1i on 01-Jul-2002 13:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Anonymous):
That's exactly what I was also thinking of ;).
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Posted by 3seas on 01-Jul-2002 13:20 GMT
Goes to show..... Amiga followers want fantasy.
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Posted by Bert Dorhout on 01-Jul-2002 13:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (3seas):
>Goes to show..... Amiga followers want fantasy.
Is that good or bad?
:-)
Bert
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Posted by Bert Dorhout on 01-Jul-2002 13:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Bert Dorhout):
Bert Dorhout (=me) wrote:
>I think this is somewhat mysterious (took it from the Amiga
>coupon status page):
>"Countdown to the draw: 2 weeks, 4 days, 16 hours, 47 minutes,
>40 seconds (ends 0900 GMT, July 20, 2002)"
>Either me or Amiga can't count.... ;-)
>Or was this on purpose?
I'll admit. It was me. Did you all like the riddle?
*COUGH* (In corner, hitting own head)
>And call me dumb
Please...
Bert Zelf
PS: More coffee...
AmigaAnywhere sales record : Comment 20 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Graham on 01-Jul-2002 14:48 GMT
Surprised this got moderated as News as opposed to the thinly disguised attack on Amiga Inc that it was (whether or not you agree with it isn't the point).
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Posted by cOrpse on 01-Jul-2002 15:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Graham):
Well you know , you get called village idiot for even liking amiga inc an ickle bit round here so its not surprising.
BTw . You get beat up if you even mention you don't like *then* :(
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Posted by Anonymous on 01-Jul-2002 17:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Graham):
If I'd submitted my original article I'm sure it would have been classified as a rant, so I elected to provide "just the facts" in easily digestible form.
But, if you really want the rant...
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Sales figures from the AA site reveal that AInc's AmigaDE sales are abysmal. Because we know sales figures for the $50 lottery ticket we can figure out that even the supposedly popular product, Planet Zed has shifted less than $5000 worth of units, with less popular titles moving only dozens of copies or none at all.
It is also obvious why AInc were trying to sell AA Entertainment Pack cards on eBay. Sales of the cards were obviously always going to be poor, but they are shown to be the worst sellers of all, in a market where a best seller can hope for only a couple of hundred sales. If AInc did buy these cards in bulk they may represent a large quantity of capital locked up, setting it free even at a loss would allow Alan to spend the money elsewhere. It's even possible that only the prototype cards exist, and that Bill wants to sell them on eBay -- That would also explain the reported discrepancy between the RAM size indicated on eBay and that listed for the official product.
Since last autumn when AInc promised the AmigaDE player with applications and games for only $14.95 the prices the products and even the target market have changed. Some thought this was the behaviour of a callous corporation working to destroy the Amiga once and for all, but it seems that in fact AInc are desperate to increase their income. Total income from the AmigaDE project may still be not much more than $10 000, but Amiga's investors expected a fast take off and won't put up with much more "bad luck".
Don't count on $20 000 or so from coupon sales to cover Bill this time in the way that $50 000 from Party Pack owners helped last summer when the pot was empty, investors have limited patience and once the investors pull out Amiga Inc. is bankrupt, end of story.
However, most clouds do have a silver lining and this one is no exception. Hyperion's license from AInc covers this eventuality and OS4 for CSPPC will almost certainly ship some time this year even if AInc go under.
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Of course, I wrote that rant before I saw the "new deal" coupon offer. Ben and Alan must be absolutely fuming over this. How many of their potential customers will get burnt by this "Amiga club" and then leave the Amiga market forever?
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Posted by Frans on 01-Jul-2002 20:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Anonymous):
> Ben and Alan must be absolutely fuming over this. How many of their potential customers will get burnt by this "Amiga club" and then leave the Amiga market forever?
Dear Anonymous,
What is the problem you see in this thing? I see no problems at all for Ben or Alan. Customer pays Amiga $50. Customer buys AmigaOne hands over coupon and gets $50 off of the price. Dealer hands over coupon to Amiga. Amiga pays dealer $50. Dealer pays Eyetech and Eyetech-or-Amiga pays Hyperion. Everyone gets paid, systems get sold no-one misses out on anything everyone is happy.
Where is the problem? Why would any of these partners object to Amiga's coupon deal? Unless ofcourse you mean that if Amiga goes bankrupt the coupons will be worthless. However that'll be the customers' loss, not Eyetech or Hyperion.
So explain your point, please, mr. Anonymous; and feel free to use your real name for a change, just so that everyone knows who's talking...
And another thing, why do all these 'anonymous' people feel they have to stand up for Eyetech or Hyperion and tell everyone how they must feel, I'm sure both companies are perfectly capable of posting their own remarks somewhere if the need arises. Them keeping quiet sounds like approval to me.
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Posted by Anonymous on 01-Jul-2002 23:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Anonymous):
"would allow Alan to spend the money elsewhere"
Wow, well that's why I actually proof-read this stuff before I actually submit it as news (unlike the dozens of people who post broken URLs). No excuse though, that part should read AInc, not Alan.
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Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 01-Jul-2002 23:29 GMT
Re: The 'Entertainment Pack' sales- did those things ever ship to mass-market stores like Staples, CompUSA, or Circuit City, as seemed meant to be the point? I haven't been in a Staples recently, but it seemed like it was taking a while to gear that up; I'd imagine those'd sell much better as impulse buys to the clueless (as they were intended) than to the the community of True Believers who are likely to lack palmtops, especially of the WinCE variety.
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Posted by Anonymous on 02-Jul-2002 04:29 GMT
Hmmm. Seems Amiga could have done well to listen to the fans of the classic along time ago. The fact that sales of a coupon (not even a product) have outweighed the sales of their flagship DE product speaks volumes to me about what Amiga consumers want.
Blind freddy could've seen that:
AmigaOS -> AmigaDE -> General population
was always going to be better than
AmigaDE -> General population -> AmigaOS
After all, it *IS* the AmigaOS that has the recognition and respect of a great many million people around the world, whether they actively use it now or not.
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Posted by Anonymous on 02-Jul-2002 12:45 GMT
I found the easiest way to work out Eyetechs stance was to ask the woman when I ordered some stuff over the phone last week.
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Posted by Mike Veroukis on 02-Jul-2002 13:46 GMT
I think more people would be willing to "join the club" if we saw at least one AmigaOne running OS 4.0 at some Amiga show somewhere. It's hard to commit to something you haven't seen or know exists. Not only that, AI haven't (to my knowledge) given us a target date as to when we would be able to receive the new machines.
I also take it that once you join the club you can not refund your coupon? For example, if I decide to purchase a coupon but a few weeks later decide I don't want a new machine, can I cancel the coupon and get my $50 back? I suppose that even if I don't want to pay for a new machine, I could pay the $50, get the "free" T-Shirt and hope to win a free machine! :)
The club is a neat idea, and I wonder if they got it from one of my posts where I suggested they could use a club to get around the sweepstakes laws. At any rate, the nice thing about the club is that it builds on the idea of a community. But clubs usually offer members certain advantages. Other then the initial advantages, I wonder how useful this club will be in the long run. If they build on this it could work out nicely.
- Mike
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Posted by amigammc on 03-Jul-2002 12:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Joe "Floid" Kanowitz):
To be able to sell an item in those big chains you mention a company needs to pay them $100,000 up front.
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Posted by Jerry Gibbons on 03-Jul-2002 20:32 GMT
Bill's got my $50.00!
I am in!
And very much looking forward to the future!!!
Put your money where your heart is ...
JOIN THE CLUB, NOW!!!
AmigaAnywhere sales record : Comment 31 of 31ANN.lu
Posted by Flinx on 04-Jul-2002 05:18 GMT
If anyone is in doubt whether he should pay the 50 or not: The counter is not very convincing for the future. In the German messageboards at amiga-news.de the MorphOS fanatics already gloat Amiga may be insolvent shortly.
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