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Posted on 01-Jul-2002 13:24 GMT by Fran140 comments
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Bill McEwen discusses the current Amiga promotion and elaborates on qualifying products, global availability and a change in the promotion. executive update
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 1 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by Mikey C on 01-Jul-2002 11:34 GMT
Finally!
I feel good :-)
Even happier now that a local retailer will be partaking in the process.
Guess that`s me 100% signed up.
Mikey C
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 2 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by Lando on 01-Jul-2002 11:45 GMT
Yep, I feel much more comfortable with this now :) I wish they'd made the offer more clear in the first place though... anyway, it's £35 well spent :)
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 3 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by Amifan on 01-Jul-2002 11:52 GMT
Yup, i'll buy one at my local dealer
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 4 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by John Block on 01-Jul-2002 12:21 GMT
Can we lose "Join the club" and "I am"
Just the boingg ball with logo would be great. I'd be delighted to own and wear that.
The design is over done and spoilt, cool is about understaement.
There are also unfortunate other meanings. "In the club" can mean pregnant "amiga" is a femle friend.
"Get me pregnant, I'm your female friend"
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 5 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by Frans on 01-Jul-2002 12:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (John Block):
Yes, losing the "I am" would be better...
Just a boing ball would make a fine t-shirt print...
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 6 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by Lando/Trinity on 01-Jul-2002 13:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Frans):
I agree. Just a boingball would be good. A small one, on the left breast, with "AMiGA" written under it, and maybe a rainbow tick logo on the sleeve. Not a great big boingball.
Maybe Amiga Inc. could announce a competition to design the T-shirt. There are lots of talented artists in the Amiga scene.
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 7 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by Mikey C on 01-Jul-2002 13:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (John Block):
LOL! Hadn`t thought of it this way, perhaps Boy George could promote it?
Mikey C
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 8 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by darklite on 01-Jul-2002 13:07 GMT
Oh my god, this is getting all to pathetic...
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 9 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by José on 01-Jul-2002 13:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Frans):
Only with a tick:)
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 10 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by Treke on 01-Jul-2002 13:35 GMT
Hmm, so, ....
If coupon is valid also for the motherboard only, all the linux community, who wants to run linuxes on PPC, can participate.
re
Treke
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 11 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by acg on 01-Jul-2002 14:24 GMT
I like this promotion better. Fortunately we can send a check
through the mail, so I don't need to get a money order.
Well, it looks like I'm going to do it....
I hope we can get more people.......
Still would like to see AmigaOS 4 demo'ed somewhere....
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 12 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by volm on 01-Jul-2002 14:27 GMT
In my opinion: Good, valid points from Amiga Inc.
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 13 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 01-Jul-2002 14:39 GMT
Not really my choice of slogan/logo either, but if that's what's going on the shirt... the less people wear them, the more will be preserved for collectors? :)
I notice the wording is a little buggered- I was about to ask why nobody was making a big deal about "free/$50" OS4.0, but "...a coupon that can be used for a USD 50.00 (EUR 50.00, or GBP 32.50) discount on an AmigaOne, or OS 4.0..." means $50 *off* the ~$100(?) retail for OS4, doesn't it?
Retail sales would be an interesting idea, but I hope they'll hold off until there's a skin out with the relative 'shiny object' factor of Win95/MacOS 9. (Applications wouldn't hurt, either.) Anyone else notice that the 'fixed' widgets accidentally ruined the 'golden rectangle' of the original compressed ones?
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 14 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 01-Jul-2002 15:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Treke):
"If coupon is valid also for the motherboard only, all the linux community, who wants to run linuxes on PPC, can participate. "
Time to slashdot it then :) , if a couple people post it might get there :D
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 15 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 01-Jul-2002 16:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (cOrpse):
Are you mad? Linux geeks with "I am AMIGA" t-shirts...yeah, right!
Do you think they are so stupid to pay some dubious company $50?
Would you pay Atari $50?
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 16 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by PMC on 01-Jul-2002 17:35 GMT
At first I was very sceptical, but now I think that I'll go for it...
I've sat waiting for a new machine for 8 1/2 years now, so I guess signing my £32.50 sway is no bad thing.
Mind you A Inc can keep the T-Shirt, although I retain a certain amount of loyalty and affection for the platform, the shirt is a bit OTT.
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 17 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by MIKE on 01-Jul-2002 18:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Anonymous):
Well Atari does have products, and a recognizable brand name.
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 18 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 01-Jul-2002 18:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (MIKE):
;-)
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 19 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by coldfire on 01-Jul-2002 18:45 GMT
I guess I'm one of those crazy amiga fanatics. I've lost my mind along with $50 I guess.....jeez I'm easy.
coldfire
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 20 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by Lando/Trinity on 01-Jul-2002 18:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (MIKE):
>Well Atari does have products, and a recognizable brand name.
Hmmm.. Atari isnt a company and hasn't been for a long long time. Its just a name thats been used by software houses as a brand to stick on their game boxes then sold on. Hasbro had it for a while, now I believe its Infogrames (well known in the industry for their knack of buying up prominent software developers and ruining them... a la Ocean). So to say that Atari have products is rather inaccurate - "Infogrames have products with the Atari logo on the box" is about right.
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 21 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 01-Jul-2002 18:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Lando/Trinity):
FWIW, Neverwinter Nights is the latest game to be released
under the Atari label.
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 22 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by BouncingAyatollah on 01-Jul-2002 18:58 GMT
I like this clarification better too now... mind you it could give Spanish people a good laugh? Walking around with "I Am <female friend>" on your T-shirt? ;-\
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 23 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 01-Jul-2002 19:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (BouncingAyatollah):
Wear it in a spanish prison pherhaps ??
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 24 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by I am in the Amiga club. Wee hee! on 01-Jul-2002 21:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (darklite):
Darklite said:
> Oh my god, this is getting all to pathetic...
Obviously you didn't read the update. McEwan said quite clearly
that, "You Are Wrong...". And he actually writes wrong in bold
and underlines it (not to mention that he starts it with a
capital letter). This means that you are three times wrong, so
there.
We don't want you as part of our club anyway. It's for cool
people only and only we can wear our t-shirts. Your just jealous.
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 25 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by Adam Kowalczyk on 01-Jul-2002 21:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (I am in the Amiga club. Wee hee!):
That's the funniest thing I've read to day. What's next, sticking out tongues and some taunting children's limericks ;)
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 26 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 01-Jul-2002 21:58 GMT
May have to get one of these coupons now if its valid against os 4 for current ppc's ( even if it only does run for a short time :P ) .
Dunno if i'll wear the tshirt tho , not because i don't like amiga t shirts but because i've always found computer sorta tshirts look cool on the website , but then you think about it and you know all your mates are going to take the piss for a few months after so you think again about ordering that cool wireframe BSD deamon shirt ;P. Maybe if they made it imformative but not computerish ?
I don't know how that would work tho :/
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 27 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 01-Jul-2002 22:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (I am in the Amiga club. Wee hee!):
"We don't want you as part of our club anyway. It's for cool
people only and only we can wear our t-shirts. Your just jealous. "
He doesn't need an amiga t shirt cuz he's got the i hate everything special that says :
"
1 : I hate PPC
2 : I diehardly support a PPC motherboard and OS ( !oh the madness)
3 : I hate Intel cuz slashdot and AMD told me so !
4 : I Love linux ( no insult to linux users ( i sometimes use it ) , but i think you get the people i mean (aka they install redhat and feel they have hurt microsoft and bill gates really badly hah)) because i fit in with all the other people that can't get laid.
5 : I Love to run into a community that my only link to is owning a now dusty 10 year old machine with no upgrades / software and shouting my head off why everyone is wrong and why nasty amiga inc has wronged us ( like he'd know )
6: I hang around with all my other tag along hate everything friends on IRC channels and bitch everything cool or nice that comes the communitys way."
Trust me , its a huge tshirt with alsorts of crappy penguins and random source code on ;).
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 28 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by Alan Croft on 01-Jul-2002 22:45 GMT
I'm signing up as soon as AUD gets to .565 US again. It should only be a couple of days.
It will good if they do get 25,000+ to sign up.
I'm going to check if all those UAE sites are passing the news along.
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 29 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by Adam Kowalczyk on 01-Jul-2002 22:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (cOrpse):
cOrpse....you on some kind of drugs....you messages are quite incoherent like you're drinking, smoking some weed, or just too plain tired. I understand tired though since I've been working on my AmigaOne developer board just about around the clock since it came last Thursday ;) It's here, it's real. If you want OS 4.0 or the AmigaOne, get the coupon even if you don't like the t-shirt.
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 30 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 01-Jul-2002 23:23 GMT
The wireframe daemon shirt actually comes in handy when you have to cablemonkey around an office and look like you belong there. Of course, my "professional" (well, it'd help if I were getting *paid* for it) wardrobe leaves me looking like something out of "Hackers" or those Worldcom ads, but people seem to expect that sort of thing.
The "I am Amiga!" design seems more like the sort of kipple given out at a trade show, but that's what it is, after all...
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 31 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by cheesegrate on 02-Jul-2002 00:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Adam Kowalczyk):
> If you want OS 4.0 or the AmigaOne, get the coupon even if you don't like the >.t-shirt.
How will giving money to a#$ inc help os4? All pretense of this being a preorder scheme for a1/os4 ("to see how many we have to build" ) have been dropped.
It's an 'exclusive' club for the <snip!>
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 32 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by Adam Kowalczyk on 02-Jul-2002 01:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (cheesegrate):
Cheesegrate, you've made your decision. My comment was directed at people interested in seeing the Amiga platform succeed that are wavering in their decsion. Momentum is gaining, the developer list is quite positive. People keep thinking it's going to fail or not be delivered and that's not what history is going to record.
Amiga Inc. extending the offer to people purchasing OS 4.0 for the classic hardware would be the first answer to how this "exclusive club" helps OS 4.0. I don't understand the negativity from some people. Good, positive things are happening. I've got hardware that's real...and not vapour and the momentum keeps on building. I can understand why some people have a hard time believing that this time it's for real, because I have a hard time believing my AmigaOne sitting next to me is real.
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 33 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by cheesegrate on 02-Jul-2002 01:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (Adam Kowalczyk):
@adam
Much respect to your dedication and hard work but it's not really an amiga one till os4 is booting on it and you can run some form of ppc apps.
Sorry linux + uae does not an amiga one make?
In fact in that respects then amithlon is amiga two right? Cause it can run on more modern hardware?
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 34 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by Michael Taylor on 02-Jul-2002 01:55 GMT
I don't care for the "I am" either however I DO like a BIG Boing Ball. I don't like the shirts were it's just over the left breast. That's borning & hardly anyone ever sees it.
My .02, hehe.
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 35 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by amigammc on 02-Jul-2002 02:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Anonymous):
>Would you pay Atari $50?
Huh, funny happens all the time.
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 36 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by amigammc on 02-Jul-2002 02:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Adam Kowalczyk):
>That's the funniest thing I've read to day. What's next, sticking out
>tongues and some taunting children's limericks ;)
You're so immature! I'm gonna tell my mom!!!!!
;-)
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 37 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by amigammc on 02-Jul-2002 02:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (cheesegrate):
>it's not really an amiga one till os4 is booting on it and you can
>run some form of ppc apps.
And your magic mirror on the wall told you OS4 doesn't run on it? Funny 'cause I heard Hyperion is testing OS4 on the board right now, and been doing that for a while. And since I heard that from a developer who actually owns an AmigaOne I rather believe him than you.
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 38 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by amigammc on 02-Jul-2002 02:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (cheesegrate):
>How will giving money to a#$ inc help os4?
I must have overestimated you. IT SHOWS developers that the Amiga market is still viable. It's not just estimates, but hard numbers showing how many people do spend money over their system. If that's not important, I don't know what it is. Joining the club is a way to say "we exist"
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 39 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by Adam Kowalczyk on 02-Jul-2002 02:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (cheesegrate):
Cheesegrate, I'm looking forward to OS 4.0 as well. At that point my AmigaOne will be complete.
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 40 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by Dammy on 02-Jul-2002 02:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (amigammc):
That you exist or your gullible fanatic?
Dammy
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 41 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by cheesegrate on 02-Jul-2002 02:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (amigammc):
>>IT SHOWS developers that the Amiga market is still viable.
Please show me a developer who has said that.
Heh shouldn't actual products do that? Maybe you should argue that a#$ inc products have been substandard so we need to do this. OS4 and a1 have been outsourced remember? They have nothing to do with ainc expenditure streams.
/it shows that there are people who accept marketing 'speek' as factual information. Even when the marketing clown contradicts his hype in the space of a week!
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 42 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by cheesegrate on 02-Jul-2002 03:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (I am in the Amiga club. Wee hee!):
>>We don't want you as part of our club anyway. It's for cool
people only
Ann is at it's best where yuu you can't decide if a poster is being genuine or savagely sarcastic ;)_
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 43 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by Mika Hanhijärvi on 02-Jul-2002 03:49 GMT
Wery good clarification from Bill. And I think he's right we need to show to the developers how many there is us who are willing to spend money.
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 44 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 02-Jul-2002 04:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (I am in the Amiga club. Wee hee!):
no that is pathetic . sorry ass Amiga who isnt anything but a mickysoft ass kisser.
tats right Bill and gary and the rest. I know you read this and you suck , and have been bought out by microsoft.
AMIGA IS DEAD. Well the true core isnt , but asses like bill and the company are. PEGASOS RULES -truly made by AMiga people
NO matter what they say Pegasos is fine and you can buy It.
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 45 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by Kjetil on 02-Jul-2002 04:39 GMT
Well ratter support Ainc by baying the OS4.0 when it comes even if I do not have an Amiga, never prepay don’t trust any one, don’t like to support some thing that is not delivered, I do not like to support any one how is trying to rip off the market, how ever if the market is willing to pay $50 for some t-short go on, I’m not stopping you, how ever if AOS4.0 is not delivered and you have pay $50 for an T-short showing your support, don’t think you are so happy having showed support for nothing delivered.
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 46 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 02-Jul-2002 04:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (I am in the Amiga club. Wee hee!):
;D
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 47 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 02-Jul-2002 04:50 GMT
I think it still does not work. There are thousands of potential buyers, but this methode will not reach much past the core of 500+ diehards...
(but now it is more likely that they get $50 from me, not sure but ...)
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 48 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by Kjetil on 02-Jul-2002 04:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (Anonymous):
I have read a lot of provocation’s form Anonymous posters lately, It starting to annoy me, this most likely the point of it all, better to have an disable Anonymous option, the MOS vs AOS, is an old flame war trick, if MOS is open and free as some clam then I get MOS for Aone, or if Pegasus gets certified as an Amiga Computer then I can get Pegasus with AOS4.0,
Don’t like to pre decide what product is best or worst before I se it, feel it and use it.
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 49 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by EmGee on 02-Jul-2002 04:55 GMT
Oh dear,
Billy E has released a new exec update, and whoppa 80% negative comments all the way here on ANN. Can't you ppl just be a little more positive ?
With this rate of negative comments, the sooner Amiga Inc quits with these actions and maybe stops in the full.
EmGee
Bill McEwen Executive Update : Comment 50 of 140ANN.lu
Posted by Mika Hanhijärvi on 02-Jul-2002 05:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (Anonymous):
I don't believe you are a MorphOS/pegasos supporter. you just try to make us fight against eachother. Otherwise you would use your own name.
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