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[News] Support Bernie!ANN.lu
Posted on 06-Jul-2002 13:01 GMT by Teemu I. Yliselä24 comments
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Kelvin Shirley has set up a petition to show the community's support to Bernie Meyer and Amithlon. You can sign it here.
Support Bernie! : Comment 1 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Budda on 06-Jul-2002 11:13 GMT
How does this achieve anything?
Support Bernie! : Comment 2 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Kronos on 06-Jul-2002 11:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Budda):
It may motivate Bernie to continiue, instead
of simply throwing the towl.
Support Bernie! : Comment 3 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by tinman on 06-Jul-2002 11:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Budda):
Didn't you know, petitions and boycotts are how anything gets decided in the Amiga market now ;)
I don't know where Kronos gets the idea of Bernie throwing in the towel (although it wouldn't be a surprise) but I think making some money rather than some online petition would influence his decision to keep going or not.
Support Bernie! : Comment 4 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Leif on 06-Jul-2002 11:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Kronos):
I dont think the problems he is having as anything to do with
him beeing un-motivated!
Support Bernie! : Comment 5 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Kronos on 06-Jul-2002 11:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Leif):
Sure, but I could bet that the current situation is quite
frustating for him, and at sometime he may think that it
is not worth the effort anymore.
Support Bernie! : Comment 6 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by KenH on 06-Jul-2002 11:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (tinman):
I'm not an ardent supporter of Amithlon. I don't know if I'll even buy it, but I'm still willing to show support for someone who has worked hard to continue the legacy. The petition might not encourage Bernie any more to do so, but it might give H&P pause for thought. It's more of a show of support than the petitions and boycots that have been done in the past.
Support Bernie! : Comment 7 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by 3seas on 06-Jul-2002 13:24 GMT
I thinks its to help Bernie not feel the sting of the IP Bitchslap so badly.
Yes Bernie still has some part of his face still hanging on.
But it should be noted that Bernie is not the only one who has had to deal with
the IP Bitchslap and I have no doubt some of the other had lost alot more than
their face or girlfriend.
And then there are those trying to avoid the IP Bitchslap who also have put alot
of work into what they are doing to perhaps release us all from the IP BitchSlap
threat. And there is only one effort to do this. Other effort still have an
IP BitchSlap leash or string attached. Efforts like UAE (GPL) and Amithlon
(proprietary) and AmigaXL (probably some combination???) have IP leashes attached.
And as such the choke chain can be pulled at anytime.
There is AROS, the effort to avoid the IP bitchslap altogether. And this can certainly
help everyone, even those swinging the IP bitchslap arm/hand to get away from that curse
of "Amiga IP". Lets' face it, Amiga inc is not the developers of AmigaOS but if anything
they are the developers of AmigaDE, Amiverse, Amiga Component Model, and you might even
say SHEEP (but if it such a good language then why limit it to one platform???)
Anyways, Amiga inc, has there own projects, they are not the developers of AmigaOS and as
such is so damn IP BitchSlapable, why even use it as there is an better route, even if it
means taking a few steps back away from the reach ofthe bitchslapping arm.
Then again, it seems really clear that there are those who really do love domination and
submission roles, probably even love to be IP bitchslaped or to IP bitchSlap someone else.
Anyone what to guess at the count?
Support Bernie! : Comment 8 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by coldfire on 06-Jul-2002 14:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (3seas):
huh?
Support Bernie! : Comment 9 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 06-Jul-2002 14:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (coldfire):
You've been Rue'd!
:)
Support Bernie! : Comment 10 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by 3seas on 06-Jul-2002 14:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (coldfire):
you play with fire....expect to get burnt. Now Bernie knows that. And I suspect it's a valuable lesson to learn.
Support Bernie! : Comment 11 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by BoingRider on 06-Jul-2002 15:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (3seas):
Does anyone know where the RueBot's power switch is, he's skipping again, someone bang it.
Support Bernie! : Comment 12 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by anonymous on 06-Jul-2002 16:13 GMT
Huh?
From what was posted in the last executive update it appears that all of the IP issues have been resolved. So why is this necessary? If you want to show your support drop Bernie a line directly or simply buy the damn thing. Better yet, encourage Amiga Inc. to add Amithlon to the 'I Am Amiga' promotion.
But please, spare us yet another senseless petition.
Support Bernie! : Comment 13 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Leif on 06-Jul-2002 17:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (3seas):
Still poluting the internet at warpspeed are you ?
There is only AOrg left now, how about it ? :)
Support Bernie! : Comment 14 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by 3seas on 06-Jul-2002 17:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Bill Hoggett):
rue
\Rue\, n. [F. rue, L. ruta, akin to Gr. ?; cf. AS. r?de.] 1. (Bot.) A perennial suffrutescent plant (Ruta graveolens), having a strong, heavy odor and a bitter taste; herb of grace. It is used in medicine.
Support Bernie! : Comment 15 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Kronos on 06-Jul-2002 17:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (anonymous):
>From what was posted in the last executive update it appears
>that all of the IP issues have been resolved
While Bernie and McBill seem to have come to an agreement, it's
H&P this time who feels left out. They (Harald Frank) claim that
they own (parts of) the Amithlon-IP and have send notes to dealers
suggesting legal actions.
-> excellent product but lousy actors
Support Bernie! : Comment 16 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 06-Jul-2002 18:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (3seas):
Guaranteed to cure insomnia.
Support Bernie! : Comment 17 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by KenH on 06-Jul-2002 19:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (3seas):
My, my, if the phrase "Fools shouldn't see half-done work" applies to anyone, it's you my man.
Support Bernie! : Comment 18 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 06-Jul-2002 21:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Kronos):
What's left of "Amiga companies" is just one incestuous slimy pit. The result is that to get anything done or sell anything you have climb in the pit too. To unobservant outsiders this might still look like a lot of separate squabbles, but it all joins up, it's all the same 2nd rate people fighting over scraps.
Support Bernie! : Comment 19 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Jul-2002 08:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Anonymous):
Gee, isn't that just great news for those of us who stay out of it all completely and just do our own thing?
Wankers like you make me want to stop. Then again I won't let a few fools ruin everything for everyone else.
Support Bernie! : Comment 20 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Daniel Miller on 07-Jul-2002 14:01 GMT
Harald Frank is a co-author of Amithlon, shouldn't we support him too?
Support Bernie! : Comment 21 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 07-Jul-2002 14:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Daniel Miller):
None of Amithlon v2 is written by Harald.
Support Bernie! : Comment 22 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Daniel Miller on 07-Jul-2002 15:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Don Cox):
You know this personally? Please explain.
Support Bernie! : Comment 23 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 07-Jul-2002 19:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Daniel Miller):
Oceania has ALWAYS been at war with Eurasia. Duh.
Support Bernie! : Comment 24 of 24ANN.lu
Posted by Sauron Bigmouth on 10-Jul-2002 14:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Daniel Miller):
All code developed in conjunction with Harold has been removed and replaced.
Also, the current holdup has absolutely nothing to do whatsoever with H&P, wish I could say more, but I can't.
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