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[News] Pegasos and MorphOS presented in BordeauxANN.lu
Posted on 07-Jul-2002 19:05 GMT by Teemu I. Yliselä257 comments
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Here you can see some photos from a Pegasos presentation held yesterday in Bordeaux, France. [ Mirrors: 1, 2, 3 - CK ]
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 151 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by cheesegrate on 08-Jul-2002 13:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 150 (amigammc):
>>AmigaOS 4 is in an early stage on the AmigaOne.
>Is it really? Are you on the list of the beta testers?
Oh yes, use the cloak of exlusivity. Everyone knows there is nothing to show otherwise they would have shown it yet.
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 152 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by cheesegrate on 08-Jul-2002 13:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 149 (amigammc):
>I tried to answer these questions myself and if the situation doesn't look very >bright for AmigaOne it certainly looks much less brigther for Pegasos.
From an amiga community viewpoint i would have to agree with you but if yellow dog linux start selling the pegasos then it's future is brighther, sure you might say teh same thing about amiga one, but the guys who made it would not bother to go thru eyetech. They would sell it to the linux market themselves..
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 153 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Frodon on 08-Jul-2002 13:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 149 (amigammc):
Hello,
"I tried to answer these questions myself and if the situation doesn't look very bright for AmigaOne it certainly looks much less brigther for Pegasos."
I don't think that you or anyone else have enough elements to predict that the AOne have a brighter future than the Pegasos or vice versa. Or maybe you have discovered a really working and scientific method to predict the future? Have you? :)
Regards
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 154 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by amigammc on 08-Jul-2002 14:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 136 (Amifan):
>Ralph Schmidt is still aiming at the Amiga. He wants MorphOS to be
>the one and only new AmigaOS.
I find that laughable. He didn't buy the rights to the Amiga name and IP, did he? I can't find anything more appropriate than Ben's "parasitic competition"
>And that'sexactly why I want AmigaOS4 for the Pegasos ;-)
LOL. I don't want him to commit suicide, just to be a little less mean and open his eyes. Synergy is always better than competition in a restricted market. Right now he's aiming straight into a black hole that would suck all his money, while he could work at expanding the community. But to do that he would have to give up the little throne he has created for himself, and since he has a huge ego I don't think he's ever do that, I'm pretty sure he's rather declare bankruptcy, which is exactly where it might end.
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 155 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Frodon on 08-Jul-2002 14:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 152 (cheesegrate):
Hello,
"From an amiga community viewpoint i would have to agree with you but if yellow dog linux start selling the pegasos then it's future is brighther, sure you might say teh same thing about amiga one, but the guys who made it would not bother to go thru eyetech. They would sell it to the linux market themselves.."
Yeah and I think the Pegasos will interest the Linux market. On Saturday in Bordeaux there was a Linux guy who came to see the Pegasos, and he was really impressed for reasons that only interest linux guys (Highly configurable BIOS and possibility to add "disk on chip" devices directly on the motherboard were one of the things he was interested of...).
That show us that the Pegasos is an interesting platform for the Linux market mainly because of its high flexibility.
Regards
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 156 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 08-Jul-2002 14:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 153 (Frodon):
"I don't think that you or anyone else have enough elements to predict that the AOne have a brighter future than the Pegasos or vice versa. Or maybe you have discovered a really working and scientific method to predict the future? Have you? :)"
The amigaOne has already been in the uk IT press and its a well known name it has a better chance simply because of that . Also i think the UK was worst hit by shitty hardware and DCE stealing and alot of people ain't going to buy anything thats touched that even if it gets sorted right now.
Also hyperion being the major amiga games company and OS 4 authors it looks alot better for os 4 support for games , and games sell a platform.
Also when DE is running on amiga os it gives joe normal entry point to amiga.
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 157 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by amigammc on 08-Jul-2002 14:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 152 (cheesegrate):
>but the guys who made it would not bother to go thru eyetech. They would
>sell it to the linux market themselves..
AFAIK the "guys" who make it are a asian producer who does not sell to individuals, much less offer technical support.
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 158 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by amigammc on 08-Jul-2002 14:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 153 (Frodon):
>Or maybe you have discovered a really working and scientific method
>to predict the future? Have you? :)
Yes, it's called market analysis. Results are not always 100% accurate but they can get pretty close. You might even be surprised to know that all businesses use it to find out if their product will be successful or not (and that's why so many products don't see the light of day, even after years of R&D).
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 159 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Frodon on 08-Jul-2002 14:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 156 (cOrpse):
Hello,
"The amigaOne has already been in the uk IT press and its a well known name it has a better chance simply because of that ."
Sorry but that's not very scientific. It's simply speculation, and the name or the press don't make everything (cf XBox, Microsoft is "well" known and the XBox was highly covered by the press, but it still don't sell very well ).
Regards
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 160 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Frodon on 08-Jul-2002 14:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 158 (amigammc):
Hello,
"Yes, it's called market analysis. Results are not always 100% accurate but they can get pretty close. You might even be surprised to know that all businesses use it to find out if their product will be successful or not (and that's why so many products don't see the light of day, even after years of R&D)."
Oh so you made a professional market analysis??? I don't think so. And in fact I don't think that Eyetech or BPlan have done one except by approximate the numbers of Amiga fans cause they are "potential" customers.
Regards
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 161 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 08-Jul-2002 14:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 159 (Frodon):
"Sorry but that's not very scientific. It's simply speculation, and the name or the press don't make everything (cf XBox, Microsoft is "well" known and the XBox was highly covered by the press, but it still don't sell very well ). "
You want to know the real reason its got no chance ? its because you lot continuly piss us off and don't know when to just f*ck off. Your all on some little 3L33t crap and love to think you've escaped from nasty amiga inc.
Your platform's doomed because its new and its already outdated , no ones going to take that seriously . The amiga name has underground appeal , Amiga kids were cool and on the edge with warez'ord copies of superfrog , your platform has none of that history.
The history your team has is going bankrupt and selling dodgy products however much the people were involved.You all love to shout for amigaos to run on open POP hardware but mos won't even tell you what chipset their using and you all swear blind its not the same as the nasty amigaOne but it turns out you were wrong.Leaves a tasty taste in the mouth when BPlan tell DCE not to support AmigaOS as well dunnit.
Basically your going to fail because your sprits all wrong , you've got the /. I'm against the norm pill on overdrive. Your just not hardc0re enough.
Amiga - The sprit
Morph - Flat coke
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 162 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Jul-2002 14:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 156 (cOrpse):
>and games sell a platform.
Original games you mean - not 2 years old full-price ports.
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 163 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Frodon on 08-Jul-2002 14:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 161 (cOrpse):
Dear Corpse,
I'm glad to see that you know the future, you are a very lucky guy ;-)
But sorry I don't know the future myself and I don't believe to what people that claim to know the future say.
That's why, I'll wait to see what the future will really be.
Regards
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 164 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 08-Jul-2002 14:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 162 (Anonymous):
2 year old ports are better then someone else's 68k apps . Yeah we already have a few ppc apps for our platform , do you ?
Everyone knows hyperion are the only ones to have really sold much amiga stuff in recent times , its a good thing for them to be supporting your amiga / clone ( yes clone , not original ) os
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 165 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by anonymous on 08-Jul-2002 14:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 163 (Frodon):
Dear Frodon and cOrpse,
Do either of you know how to configure SMTP and POP connections?
Cut us all some slack and take this offline. The site admins have shown unlimited grace, but you're spoiling it for the rest of us.
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 166 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by dammy on 08-Jul-2002 15:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 163 (Frodon):
c0rpse, your funnier then Hell! I'm really start to enjoy reading your posts, reminds me of the actions of a trapped rat squealing to find a nonexisting escape route. I can only assume your posts will get better after Amino bites the dust as DEad fades into the void of .com aftermath.
Dammy
BTW, just how many $50 coupons did you buy? I figure your good for atleast three of those purchases...
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 167 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Jul-2002 16:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 166 (dammy):
"c0rpse, your funnier then Hell! I'm really start to enjoy reading your posts, reminds me of the actions of a trapped rat squealing to find a nonexisting escape route."
Rats ? maybe you should start cleaning your house mate.
And why would i want to escape ? Your the one trapped in a box mate , i have no less then 4 platforms on the go, Amiga being the only one i care about. Altho if i wanted to escape i could join a bandwagon lead by arseholes that think think they're somehow elite for copying someone else's os, there again i don't want to get caught up in Thendic's hidden agenda.
"I can only assume your posts will get better after Amino bites the dust as DEad fades into the void of .com aftermath."
Even DE has more going for it then Mos / Bplan , Another game has been annouced for it recently. I only hope you'll feel better when Phase5/DCE/viscorp sink.
I hope you notice that Thendic are aiming for the market that everyone likes to think exists but doesn't, you know the powerful digital .com device market. Its going to be a laugh when they annouce another plan to sell their digital scam.
"BTW, just how many $50 coupons did you buy? I figure your good for atleast three of those purchases..."
I've bought as many coupons as there are pegasos' being used by *real* people , ZERO ! My reason ? Social lives are expensive to maintain and i'm going to run os 4 on my phase 5 cock up for a while to make its £640 price tag not give me nightmares.
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 168 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 08-Jul-2002 16:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 134 (Jon):
I might know internal stuff about MorphOS but I surely don't know Laire's
intentions. Ask him.
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 169 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 08-Jul-2002 16:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 168 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Oops.. Already replied.
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 170 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 08-Jul-2002 16:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 161 (cOrpse):
> The history your team has is going bankrupt and selling dodgy products
Like Commodore.
> Your platform's doomed because its new and its already outdated
Like OS4 and like ALL Amiga software and OS solutions.
Get serious, everything in the Amiga market new or not, is OUTDATED.
And about "someone else's 68k software", there are titles under development
(and some released) running natively under MorphOS and you know it.
But... Like some other people, you seem to see and read only what *YOU* WANT.
Btw, yes the GUI is configurable like the OS4 gui is. I believe that the only
fight will be about some other features and... SOFTWARE. Both platforms seem
to have the same titles to start with. What will happen later is what will judge
the future. Not you and nobody else are really able to judge that.
So, do what I do... Wait.
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 171 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 08-Jul-2002 16:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 170 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Everything Amiga is outdated , exactly my point a new amiga sorta platforms going to have a hard time , sad but true.
I'll go back to my open stance again ( i don't really care what happens any more) but if people are just going to provoke others then its very easy to fall into a handbag match as seen here. Front men such as bill buck should act up to their role and not slander the other efforts as he does because its very easy to dig up the past and question people intentions.Also please if your not going to give reason or detail don't say it , yes mos may be great , but the average joe hasn't seen this development and its tantamount to flamebait.Its not like I go round saying ExecSG rocks , i haven't seen it.
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 172 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Lando / Trinity on 08-Jul-2002 16:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 170 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
>> The history your team has is going bankrupt and selling dodgy products
>
>Like Commodore.
What?
Lets see...
Vic-20 - The first mass-market colour home computer (well.. apart from the Atari 400/800;) in a time when most kids were playing their VCS or Intellivision
C64 - The best-selling computer model of all time.
Amiga - The computer we all know and love.
These were dodgy products? I have a C64 that's still working 20 years after it was made. Wanna make a bet on how many CSPPC's are still functioning in 2017? ;)
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 173 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 08-Jul-2002 16:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 171 (cOrpse):
Bill Buck's stance in this thread was TERRIBLE...
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 174 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 08-Jul-2002 16:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 172 (Lando / Trinity):
Why don't you ask Eyetech hopw many fixes the 1200 motherboard needs to work
propertly with accelerators and stuff?
And you have to face that old, slow computers always last longer. Timing in fast
systems (yeap, and "fast" systems as well) is VERY important, especially in dual
cpu systems like the PowerUp cards. A small defect in the card can make it
unusuable.
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 175 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 08-Jul-2002 16:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 172 (Lando / Trinity):
Add to the facrt that the Commodore products were MASSIVELY produced.
The P5 cards' cost HAD to be cut down cause they would be EVEN MORE expensive.
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 176 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Troels Ersking on 08-Jul-2002 17:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 51 (Bill):
"Hi Troels,
I just sent you an email...:)"
Read it and answered you. Very unusual questions and comments you write though.
"OK, just blue pills tonight, and I feel great! What is wrong with you?
Who is an "amateur?"
Nothings wrong with me, thank you for asking...
As I wrote here and in the email, you are acting VERY amateurish not doing any good for thendic or Bplan/Morphos. If you read the thread you will notice I am far from the only one thinking that.
":)
Bill"
Best Regards
Troels E
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 177 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by z5 on 08-Jul-2002 17:24 GMT
hum...not following the thread that close (seems a funny discussion though) but i wonder. Where these posts by Bill really from Bill Buck, the viscorp dude? You can't be serious can you? What was he on about The Matrix and stuff. Seems he's on something really strong :) Quite the contrary to his previous posts i've seen. Don't know if it will add a lot to the credibility of a company though?
And to Alkis:
If you call Commodore machines dodgy products, then surely you loose all credibility in my view. And i really do wonder what you are doing here then?
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 178 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Lando / Trinity on 08-Jul-2002 17:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 174 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
>Why don't you ask Eyetech hopw many fixes the 1200 motherboard needs to work
>propertly with accelerators and stuff?
I have never had any of my A1200's timing-fixed, and they all worked fine (with mediators, bppc's, and all sorts stuck on them). Actually, i remember one did have the horizontal tearing problem when running in multiscan productivity modes. This didnt affect me as I had a gfxcard by then... Lets face it, A1200's were never designed to have the amount of stuff stuck on them that most people have.
My Phase5-built CSPPC crashes at random intervals of 20 minutes to a couple of hours when running processor-intensive stuff like Shogo or QuakeWOS, despite me adding a new heatsink, big 12v fan, and leaving the case open. People with DCE-built CSPPC's have it much worse, so I've heard (on many, the PPC side of the card is completely dead, but the 060 is still usable if they're lucky)
>And you have to face that old, slow computers always last longer. Timing in
>fast systems (yeap, and "fast" systems as well) is VERY important, especially
>in dual cpu systems like the PowerUp cards. A small defect in the card can
>make it unusuable.
Well they shouldn't make cards with defects then. And they should honour the warranty for people who have bought cards that are broken. (And they should answer my emails about my broken BVision instead of ignoring me).
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 179 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 08-Jul-2002 17:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 177 (z5):
Using my dodgy piece of hardware?
Well, Amigas up to the 3k were perfect. In the last years of commodore
(with the 1200 and 4k), their rush made them produce very flaky hardware.
The 4k could be MUCH better(take a look at the buster). It must have been
lack of funding though.
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 180 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 08-Jul-2002 17:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 178 (Lando / Trinity):
I agree on all your points (I too don't have timing probs with my 1d.1 while I
did with my 2b) but...
About the warranty, DCE has nothing to do with Phase5. Furthermore, they stated
a hundred times that they do not accept repair emails and you can contact them
by phone.
I agree they can be quite annoying sometimes.
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 181 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Chris Roccati on 08-Jul-2002 18:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 158 (amigammc):
> Yes, it's called market analysis. Results are not always 100%
> accurate but they can get pretty close.
And this "market analysis" thing is generally done by selling $50
coupons and counting the number of buyers? :) :) :)
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 182 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Ole-Egil Hvitmyren on 08-Jul-2002 18:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 181 (Chris Roccati):
That approach certainly give you a strong indication of the worst case minimum, doesn't it?
Doesn't tell you much about the best case maximum or the plausible real life value, though...
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 183 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 08-Jul-2002 19:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 182 (Ole-Egil Hvitmyren):
It gives you a minimum, not the worst case one though.
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 184 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Anders on 08-Jul-2002 19:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 170 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
>> The history your team has is going bankrupt and selling dodgy products
>Like Commodore.
Commodore only made dodgy PC's and that is part of the reason they went bankrupt.
Their Amigas were selling just fine and are obviously of good quality since so
many of them are still working today. I have 2 A4000, a 3000, a 1200 and a 600 myself.
All are still working nicely.
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 185 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by PEGASOS on 08-Jul-2002 20:04 GMT
GET THE PEGASOS. > ITS THE BEST That IS BEING MADE NOW. Kicks so called sorry ass A1/4.0 butt.
PEGASOS ROCKS ROCKS
no matter what some jealous no sayers may say. They are so blind its not even funny
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 186 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by classic on 08-Jul-2002 20:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 179 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
the chip where and are better the design of the case or layout wasnt.
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 187 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Jul-2002 20:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 183 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
"We have a very small, professional group of testers who have beta
tested apps before who are doing the testing for OS4 now."
Gary Peake, 17 June 2001
"Amiga Inc. have been lying to you for more than TWO YEARS and you're still sending them your money, no questions asked. You are stupid."
Me, 8 July 2002
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 188 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Anders on 08-Jul-2002 20:16 GMT
I'd be happy just running Linux on any of the new machines to begin with.
Just getting to use a powerful PPC processor with a decent OS unlike the Mac's would be nice.
My friend Stefan at OnyxSoft has pre-ordered a PegasOS and I'll wait for him
to get it before I choose what to get myself.
And concerning repair issues with DCE. Stefan got a faulty CyberVision PPC, so
he sent it back through Vesalia which he bought the card from. He got it back, but
it was broken again, from the transport from what we could see. So he sent it back
a second time and got the same card back again, fixed. All this went very smooth and
didn't take more than a few weeks from what I can remember. So you're probably better
off going through your dealer. He still had the guarantee of course so I don't know
about older cards...
/Anders
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 189 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Jul-2002 21:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 184 (Anders):
A4000 and A600 were shitty products with no obvious advancements. They only sold
out the old hardware to make a quick buck but didn't really put money into the
Amiga line of computers to be able to sell cool new cutting edge products.
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 190 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 08-Jul-2002 21:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 164 (cOrpse):
There are several ppc applications for mos, and more is coming all the time. And it seems to be very easy to port 68k amiga apps to ppc morph os. Only DAYS after the aweb scource code was released there were a ppc version available for mos. Another good example is AHI. Look at this (old!!) text from the AHI website (especially the last line):
-start------------------
2000-08-03
Believe it or not, but I am still alive. It's time for a new beta, this time for MorphOS, which was released as a public beta two days ago. If you haven't tried it yet, do so now! Personally, I love it.
This beta, the fourth, is just a new device and preference program, since I still have a couple of build issues to sort out. Note that you must update the "Default anti-click time" in the advanced preferences if you have used an earlier beta version! I changed the format of env:sys/ahi.prefs a little.
Anyway, download the archive, unpack it and copy AHI_MUI to SYS:Prefs/AHI and ahi.device.elf.604 to DEVS:ahi.device.elf. Boot into MorphOS and enjoy the fastest mixing you have ever seen on the Amiga... Then send your detailed bug report to me.
(The WarpUp version is still giving me headaches, I'm afraid. It's not looking good.)
-end------------------
Personally, I have been an amiga enthusiast since the very beginning, but I have had my old amigas in a closet for some time now. I visit the major amiga web forums from time to time, just to keep myself updated, but honestly, there hasn´t been THAT much to update. Not until now.
I think that the pegasos/mos combination is kind of exciting (except for the price, but low quantaty ppc hardware can never be as cheap as x86 hw). I like the fact that it is a new, lean, ppc native solution, free of old 68k legacies and patches/addons like Birdie/MagicMenu/Whatever. I also like the fact that you still CAN run 68k amiga apps seamlessly and stable. I also like the fact that the "workbench" will be MUI-based and therefore fully customizable.
I am seriously considering to buy a pegasos. I´m afraid that if i bring out my old amigas from the closet, I will be kind of disappointed of the performance. You see, one has gotten used to the raw processor power on the x86 platform. But the pegasos might be just the remedy to that. The prize is my only questionmark, but who knows, it might be worth it.
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 191 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 08-Jul-2002 21:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 190 (takemehomegrandma):
> Only DAYS after the aweb scource code was released there were a ppc version
Correction. The first beta was done in hours:)
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 192 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by amigammc on 08-Jul-2002 22:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 159 (Frodon):
>(cf XBox, Microsoft is "well" known and the XBox was highly covered by the
>press, but it still don't sell very well ).
Don't sell very well? Over 2.5 million units sold in less than six months is "not well" ? I wonder what's well to you. Wait until X-Box Live and Christmas arrive...
AmigaMMC
Proud owner of an XBOX
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 193 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by amigammc on 08-Jul-2002 22:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 162 (Anonymous):
MOS doesn't even have those.
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 194 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Jul-2002 22:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 193 (amigammc):
Really?!
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 195 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 08-Jul-2002 22:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 155 (Frodon):
... and possibility to add "disk on chip" devices directly on the motherboard ...
This sounds interesting. In practice, what does this mean? Is there a DOC (disc on chip) available on the standard mobo (in that case, how large is it? 32 meg?), or is that an option with extra hardware?
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 196 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 09-Jul-2002 00:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 193 (amigammc):
Oh, really?
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 197 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Johan "Graak" Forsberg on 09-Jul-2002 01:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 192 (amigammc):
One million PlayStation 2s were sold the day it was released =)
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 198 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Frodon on 09-Jul-2002 04:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 193 (amigammc):
Hello,
Simply wrong :-) On MorphOS you can run quite all Amiga games currently available (including ECS/AGA games using UAE PPC for MorphOS and latest WarpUP/Warp3D games).
And look also at http://www.titan-computer.com/ in the Amiga section and click on "Rage Hard" and you'll see that there is even a game that is actually planned only for MorphOS in preparation :)
Regards
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 199 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Frodon on 09-Jul-2002 04:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 195 (takemehomegrandma):
Hello,
Actually I have not so much information about this technology, I even didn't know it before the Unix guy asked about it to Gerald Carda :)
Anyway what I know about it and the Pegasos is that actually you should either order a "special version" of the Motherboard with the chip included (but maybe it's not possible to just order one in that case) or you can solder the chip by yourself (if you know what you do of course).
Regards
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 200 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by Anders Kjeldsen on 09-Jul-2002 04:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 150 (amigammc):
Oh, come on amigammc... why all the FUD ? You don't seem so secure about Amiga OS4 and its release date (somewhere in the future)
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