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[News] Pegasos and MorphOS presented in BordeauxANN.lu
Posted on 07-Jul-2002 19:05 GMT by Teemu I. Yliselä257 comments
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Here you can see some photos from a Pegasos presentation held yesterday in Bordeaux, France. [ Mirrors: 1, 2, 3 - CK ]
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Posted by Don Cox on 09-Jul-2002 04:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 159 (Frodon):
"Sorry but that's not very scientific. It's simply speculation, and the name or the press don't make everything
(cf XBox, Microsoft is "well" known and the XBox was highly covered by the press, but it still don't sell
very well ). "
If we could sell that many Amigas we'd be laughing.
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Posted by .john on 09-Jul-2002 08:11 GMT
Hi,
for me the PEGASOS is only interesting as a Linux machine !
It *is* a nice machine and it needs either acceptance (then go with Linux)
or stays in a niche, where everyone does what (s)he wants to do with it.
I will run a multimedia server for my home (with built-in STB,VCR,DVD,CDDA,
VideoLAN etc.) in a nifty little box, still 3xPCI all I/O onboard, still
of the size of the mixroATX formfactor.
This is my plans for the Pegasos.
.john
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Posted by Ole-Egil on 09-Jul-2002 08:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 183 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
So you are saying there will be lower sales than prepayments? How? (ok, in this case, since they have said ok to use the coupon as prepayment for the OS only, you are right. But other than that, how?)
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Posted by Amifan on 09-Jul-2002 08:44 GMT
I Am AMIGA.
Im am not going that T-Shirt BTW :-)
RageHard, now that's going to attract people to the Pegasos.
Geesz, anyone played a decent PC game or PSX2 lately?
Then compare the GFX and think...
While the GFX are better then Gloom or Alien Breed 3D II (with a little help from a Radeon), it looks kinda old and dated when compared to a PC game. Now this game is set for a releasedate somewhere in 2003.......
Now go and play your original game.......i'll be playing Soldiers of Fortune instead.
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Posted by Anonymous on 09-Jul-2002 08:56 GMT
>So you are saying there will be lower sales than prepayments? How? (ok, in
Well, the person you replied to did speak of this promotion giving a minimum, but not the worst case one. We can expect practically everyone (in this case) using their coupon, but in a worst case scenario - hey, that's why it's called worst case - not a single person uses theirs for whatever reason (actually that could be pretty good business for the party selling coupons if one looks at it in short term only). Statistically the probability, probably, lies somewhere in between...
Personally I do believe they will sell more AmigaOnes than coupons, though.
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Posted by Ole-Egil on 09-Jul-2002 09:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 205 (Anonymous):
Ok, I must say you have a point. It's not a worst case estimate, because worst case is 0.
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Posted by Johan Rönnblom on 09-Jul-2002 09:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 45 (Daniel Miller):
No, the title says "Lupe", I'm sure. Search Aminet. :)
Besides, the screenshot looks almost identical to what happens when I
start Lupe on my machine, except I have a nicer texture imho. ;)
The proportions are somewhat better though, unlike what someone else
claimed in this thread.
Anyway, I don't see how people can read so much into a screenshot.
Personally I think GUI:s are important, but looks tell very little
compared to the feeling you get when you actually try to use it.
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Posted by Anonymous on 09-Jul-2002 09:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 204 (Amifan):
>Soldiers of Fortune
Isn't this quite old, too?
Quake2 by Hyperion will be even older. The most important thing with these games
is, they have to _play_ well, else no one is going to buy it - look at Counterstrike!
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Posted by David Scheibler on 09-Jul-2002 09:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 208 (Anonymous):
>>Soldiers of Fortune
>Isn't this quite old, too?
Isn't that the game Hyperion announced two years ago to port to the Amiga and
Mac?
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Posted by the older amiga via Morphos on 09-Jul-2002 09:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 198 (Frodon):
(including ECS/AGA games using UAE PPC for MorphOS although you are right about the rest
wrong al you need isthe Morphos no need for the crappy uae.
As they say and repeat. "Morphos will run without the classic AMiga chips.We rebuilt and redid the libarys
and alike to emmulate the classic Amiga." So no need for Uae it sucks anyhow it deosnt truly represnt the
AMiga in any fashion.
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Posted by Anders Kjeldsen on 09-Jul-2002 09:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 204 (Amifan):
I can agree that I've seen "better graphics" in a 3D-game.. But why be so judgemental(?) on the few "amiga"(?) games being released? Amiga game-developers do not have the same funding as the greatest PC/Console game-developers. And so on.
Not that I know, but I wouldn't be surprized to see this game on AmigaOS4 or similar (when there is some developer-info available for AmigaOS4 perhaps)
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Posted by pc comparedto the Pegasos games and stuff on 09-Jul-2002 09:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 204 (Amifan):
olde in dated I know not. pc games are always going to give that flat nonrealstic look due to the
design of the system . That is old and outdated . plots lines or the game itself
has nothing to do with being dated.Its the look and feel of the games that does this.
Even the most recent dukenukem sucks and is an example of dated design.This,(pegasos game)
looks much better then that and it doesnt need bloated code to run it either.
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Posted by older Amiga on 09-Jul-2002 10:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 189 (Anonymous):
chip design and archiecture are much better in the Aga chip series. It was the layout or the baord design that wasnt, plus the loss
of the flciker fixer that was on the 3000. Other then that even the A1200 outpreformed the A3000.
So get your facts straight
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Posted by Amifan on 09-Jul-2002 10:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 211 (Anders Kjeldsen):
>I can agree that I've seen "better graphics" in a 3D-game.. But why be so >judgemental(?) on the few "amiga"(?) games being released? Amiga game->developers do not have the same funding as the greatest PC/Console game->developers. And so on.
Certain MOS people are raving about "their" RageHard will attract all those users, and "we" only have those old PC port.....
But the fact is that PC users will laugh about RageHard in its current state.
Those "OLD" games will probably provide some recognition like "Is it able to run those kind of games I play on my PC?" In stead of "RageHard? Never heard of so it sucks..."
>Not that I know, but I wouldn't be surprized to see this game on AmigaOS4 or >similar (when there is some developer-info available for AmigaOS4 perhaps)
Ofcourse, MAC standards are much higher then this, so they need to support as much platforms as they can in order to make some money.....
While Titan "officially" supports MorphOS now, it's the money that counts in the end...............
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Posted by Anders Kjeldsen on 09-Jul-2002 10:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 214 (Amifan):
Well, why care about what those "PC users" say? :) I really think we should wait until the game has been released. Maybe it doesn't turn out so bad afterall? I'd rather want a game exclusively for "Amiga" than some PC port that I could play on my PC anyway. Actually, both will be fine :)
I think Titan support Morphos because it's the only solution that it would make sense to support right now. But as I said, as soon as some developer-info for AmigaOS4 is ready, I believe there might be a chance there too. But I guess Titan has got the answer to that, and not I :)
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Posted by David Scheibler on 09-Jul-2002 10:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 214 (Amifan):
>Those "OLD" games will probably provide some recognition like "Is it able to
>run those kind of games I play on my PC?"
Maybe you 'forgot' the fact that there will not only be original games but also
PC ports for MorphOS (already announced i.e. Alien Nations, Majesty,
Earth2150,...).
So there is something for everyone (some prefer playing original games like
Payback, others prefer playing GTA).
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Posted by Amifan on 09-Jul-2002 10:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 216 (David Scheibler):
>Maybe you 'forgot' the fact that there will not only be original games but >also PC ports for MorphOS (already announced i.e. Alien Nations, Majesty,
>Earth2150,...).
Ah and who will port them/when do you expect them to be ready/are they MorphOS exclusive?
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Posted by Amifan on 09-Jul-2002 11:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 215 (Anders Kjeldsen):
>Well, why care about what those "PC users" say? :) I really think we should >wait until the game has been released. Maybe it doesn't turn out so bad >afterall? I'd rather want a game exclusively for "Amiga" than some PC port >that I could play on my PC anyway. Actually, both will be fine :)
Ahem? Without new users, the amiga is dead anyway.....
We need to give them a reason to look at the Amiga...And being able to play the games they played on their PC is a guarantee that the hardware is fast enough.
Unless there's some really great original game (And no, RageHard will not fullfill that honor), we have to do it with porting "older" games to raise funds and then eventually be able to port a recent game....
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Posted by takemehomegrandma on 09-Jul-2002 11:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 217 (Amifan):
Can MorphOS run Amiga apps?
Can Amiga run MorphOS apps?
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Posted by Anonymous on 09-Jul-2002 11:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 218 (Amifan):
>We need to give them a reason to look at the Amiga...
>And being able to play the games they played on their
>PC is a guarantee that the hardware is fast enough.
Oh, and that makes a PPC platform attractive...dream on!
>Unless there's some really great original game (And no,
>RageHard will not fullfill that honor),
You are a Rage Hard betatester? I think you are dissing
Rage Hard for the sole reason it won't appear for your
beloved AmigaOS/AmigaOne.
>we have to do it with porting "older" games to raise funds
*ROTFLBTC*
You are not aware of the fact Hyperion were losing money
on each Amiga game they ported?
>and then eventually be able to port a recent game....
We are still waiting for Worms Armageddon.
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Posted by David Scheibler on 09-Jul-2002 11:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 217 (Amifan):
>Ah and who will port them
Titan and e.p.i.c. but I think you know this already.
>are they MorphOS exclusive
e.p.i.c. announced to stop AmigaOS support a while ago. On their webpage/their press release they only announced the MorphOS version.
IIRC Titan wanted to do OS4 versions and asked several times for documentation
and developer support. Neither when the project was in the hands of Amiga Inc.
nor now after Hyperion took over the project they got any information. I don't
know if that has changed now (though I doubt it after Hyperion and Titan didn't
sign the Majesty contract).
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Posted by Anonymous on 09-Jul-2002 11:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 221 (David Scheibler):
>e.p.i.c. announced to stop AmigaOS support a while ago.
Still, they did the Feeble Files for AmigaOS, correct?
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Posted by ehaines on 09-Jul-2002 11:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 198 (Frodon):
> And look also at http://www.titan-computer.com/ in the Amiga section and click
> on "Rage Hard" and you'll see that there is even a game that is actually
> planned only for MorphOS in preparation :)
Um, except it's not. It's a Mac port. I'm afraid we may never see any
original Amiga games again, beyond the freeware level anyway. They simply
cost too much money to make these days, and the Amiga market is too small,
and the MorphOS market even smaller. Mac games can still make some money,
but even those are mostly ports too, with some exceptions (like this one).
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Posted by Anonymous on 09-Jul-2002 12:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 223 (ehaines):
>It's a Mac port.
While it may be true the development takes place on Macs, I'm quite sure it is
not a port since Mr Garlich said bplan approached them to make a "killerapp"
for their Pegasos computer system and a public beta with two levels should have
been shipped with the bplan board in March 2002 according to the original plans.
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Posted by Don Cox on 09-Jul-2002 12:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 189 (Anonymous):
"A4000 and A600 were shitty products with no obvious advancements. "
The A600 was the first Amiga with surface mounting technology.
Although this didn't affect the user much, it was an important step
forward in production, without which the A1200 wouldn't have been
possible.
The A4000 was the first Amiga with AGA. Having 256 colours in high res
instead of 16, and 256 in Productivity instead of 4, was a big
improvement. And Ham8 was pretty impressive for its time, too.
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Posted by David Scheibler on 09-Jul-2002 12:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 222 (Anonymous):
>Still, they did the Feeble Files for AmigaOS, correct?
Right, but IIRC that was financed by KDH.
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Posted by Anonymous on 09-Jul-2002 12:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 226 (David Scheibler):
>Right, but IIRC that was financed by KDH.
When KDH has enough money to finance a game, why
don't they have enough for 10 Pegasos boards? :)
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Posted by Anonymous on 09-Jul-2002 13:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 219 (takemehomegrandma):
"Can MorphOS run Amiga apps?"
MorphOS runs *ALL* existing Amiga apps, be they 68k, WarpUp or PowerUp, as well as MorphOS-specific apps.
"Can Amiga run MorphOS apps?"
No. AmigaOS does not run any MorphOS apps at all.
(Applies to all existing actual versions on AmigaOS, as opposed to any future stuff that may come out, of course. Nobody can make any comment about compatability with something that doesn't exist outside of the developers!)
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Posted by Darrin on 09-Jul-2002 13:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 228 (Anonymous):
>>MorphOS runs *ALL* existing Amiga apps, be they 68k, WarpUp or PowerUp, as well as MorphOS-specific apps.
Amazing. Not even my REAL Amigas can run *ALL* 68k apps. So why do I think I smell some BS here.
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Posted by Frodon on 09-Jul-2002 13:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 229 (Darrin):
Hello Darrin,
"Amazing. Not even my REAL Amigas can run *ALL* 68k apps. So why do I think I smell some BS here."
I think he included also the softwares that will need UAE PPC for MorphOS. But even with it, maybe a few softwares will still not work...
Anyway really a lot of softwares are running even most of the old OCS/ECS/AGA games/softwares using UAE. So don't worry :)
Regards
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Posted by ehaines on 09-Jul-2002 14:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 224 (Anonymous):
> While it may be true the development takes place on Macs, I'm quite sure it
> is not a port
www.titancomputer.de/mac/ragehard/
Nobody is going to make an Amiga/MorphOS only game these days, unless
AmigaOne/Pegasos sell lots of units. Or unless they've got some other
source of income and money to burn.
That's business. I've bought an AmigaOne, and I might buy a Pegasos,
and I'll buy software for them if it's what I'm interested in (I bought
all of Hyperion's games so far). But I'm just one person, and there
needs to be a lot more.
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Posted by MIKE on 09-Jul-2002 14:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 154 (amigammc):
Luca, shut up, your constent love affair for Amiga is getting annoying. Fact is Ralph Schmidt is about the most helpful developer in the Amiga scene of the past 10 years, he just doesn't respond to moron's who ask stupid questions very well (this is probably why Luca has a bad impression, he fits the moron classification). I'll post this and wait for Luca to come back with some comical post about *his vast business experience* and his *professionalism*, and oh his indepth, insider views about Amiga *since he visited there once*. Luca when you actually *do something besides post a horrible web page* for the Amiga let us know, then you may be taken seriously.
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Posted by Anonymous on 09-Jul-2002 14:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 231 (ehaines):
So what is this got to prove?
I also have a nice URL for you (note the "ami" part):
http://www.titan-computer.com/ami/ragehard/screens.html
Would it still be a Mac port in your eyes when it will
be released at the same day or one day in advance of the
Mac version?
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Posted by Darrin on 09-Jul-2002 14:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 232 (MIKE):
>>Luca, shut up, your constent love affair for Amiga is getting annoying. Fact is Ralph Schmidt is about the most helpful developer in the Amiga scene of the past 10 years,...
Hmmmm... well, if Luca has a love affair with Amiga Inc then I can only suggest that you appear to have a "love affair" with Ralph Schmidt. Anything you wan't to tell us? Are congratulations in order? Will it be an open or closed ceremony? ;)
(Sorry, couldn't resist it)
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Posted by ehaines on 09-Jul-2002 14:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 233 (Anonymous):
> So what is this got to prove?
Er, that it's not a "MorphOS-only" game?
If it's released at the same time as the Mac version, then no, it's
not a port, just cross-developed. But that's not the point. The
point is that it's not a MorphOS exclusive. The point is that there's
no market for MorphOS exclusives. Or AmigaOS exclusives, for that
matter.
Hey, I don't like it, but that's reality. I've done (and am doing) my
part, but there's got to be a lot more people willing to get out there
and do stuff and buy stuff and not just sit around posting messages, if
anything is to ever get better. ;)
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Posted by amigammc on 09-Jul-2002 17:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 232 (MIKE):
I do it, but I don't need to show it to you. Troll!
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Posted by Anonymous on 09-Jul-2002 17:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 235 (ehaines):
>Er, that it's not a "MorphOS-only" game?
That was not the point of debate.
We talked about MOS getting original games
vs. some 2 year old ports. I think we can
agree after all?
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Posted by catohagen on 09-Jul-2002 17:51 GMT
why the h*ll bother with games anyway....its a waste of time, as most
(potential) users of both amigaone and pegasos were youngsters maybe
10/15 years ago and played games then....I can't imagine people
25 years and up buying old games ported to amigaone/pegasos, h*ell
Feeble Files came in 97 ?
If you really are a gamer you should (atleast in my view) have a pretty
decent pc system or a good console like PS2/Gamecube and get your kicks
from there, why bother buying 1+ year old games just because you *can* play
them on your amiga or buying them just to support the gamecompany making
them?..
Instead of porting those games that sell like 200 copies, consentrate on making
something useful/unique so its worth keeping to amiga...
I'm 26 years old, have 2 kids....wife and house....I will *never* buy a
(old/ported)game for my amiga (did buy Shogo, havent opened the case yet)
unless its an *good* orginal game (wouldn't mind roketz on RTG though)
My son have my PS1, so only games we buy is kids games for that one..
I *will* buy every app that will come around for amiga/amigaone that I can use,
and I have bought everything available thats useful for me..my latest purchases
are VHI studio (transfer family pics from my digicam) and Ibrowse(but use aweb :)
A good idea maybe for game porting companies would be to listen to the users
and make a poll or something on whats needed next, be it games/apps/drivers for
hardware ? instead of just decide to port that game, and 50% in the process
announce it to the community..
Just my view/opinions, any1 disagree ? yes ? please reply then and tell me importance
of pc/mac ports of games, as I might be wrong...
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Posted by more guff to grumble on on 09-Jul-2002 21:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 223 (ehaines):
ehaines doesnt know jack. If you look as David did these are morphos supported, and if ehaines
would look further he would find support for the morphos in the form of much bigger companies.
ehaines and others wont admit nor do this, they would rather argue on somethign of which they know
nothing of and/or they lie . The fact remains games are being ported
to morphos even before they are ported to mac, and mac users have noticed this and the fact that they
like the morphos shows that the Pegasos has a firm base.
As always, if you wait and not support ,everyone looses. Nobody waited and supported
the wintel world and thats why we are in this mess. Support the Pegasos as its proven
he way to go . It may not be the true Amiga but its a dam site clsoe then the so called a1.
WE will have a true new " AMiga" again sooner then you think,but you must
support somebody that is goign the right way, and that is the Pegasos.
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Posted by Anonymous on 09-Jul-2002 21:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 225 (Don Cox):
forget that you couuld have 17.8 million on the screen if you had the memory .
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Posted by Anonymous on 09-Jul-2002 21:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 231 (ehaines):
well the so called a1 isnt a sucess. you fell into a but kissing trap.
The Pegasos syem was ship may 30 to the ones that preordered it . The last preorder count was 500
and that has been sold and that was their third production line. The Pegasos is much more of a success
and i really hope. the other crappy one fails as it will.
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Posted by Anonymous on 09-Jul-2002 21:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 238 (catohagen):
>its a waste of time, as most (potential) users of both amigaone and pegasos
>were youngsters maybe 10/15 years ago and played games then...
At least they now have the money so they don't have to pirate them anymore. ;)
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Posted by Anonymous on 09-Jul-2002 21:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 239 (more guff to grumble on):
Is the Pegasos 128 Bits? Else it's no better than Commodore Amiga or even the shitty PCs!!! :)
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Posted by Anonymous on 10-Jul-2002 00:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 240 (Anonymous):
17.8 million on screen?
Three problems...
1. You mean 16.8 million (2^2416777216)
2. Classic Amiga hardware wasn't up to it really, try an order of magnitude less if you want a count of different colors that could be reliable reproduced.
3. You'd require a 8129 x 2048 display to get them all on screen at once
But, yeah, it was still very impressive for its time.
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Posted by Anonymous on 10-Jul-2002 02:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Anonymous):
we don't know squat....
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Posted by Anonymous on 10-Jul-2002 03:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Henning Nielsen Lund [Denmark]):
yeah, the picks are right on par with that crappy video....
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Posted by Anonymous on 10-Jul-2002 03:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 204 (Amifan):
RageHard, now that's going to attract people to the Pegasos.
with Mac screen shots, not likely....
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Posted by Amiga User In Waiting.... on 10-Jul-2002 03:09 GMT
Months ago, I posted that Morphos is doomed due to the impending lack of software support v/s the support that will be received by Amiga. There are people in high places that want Amiga to return. I even dropped a hint or two.
More I cannot say.
I will be there.
You should too.
Many programmers and software houses got their start with Amiga and are now disenchanted with PC.
Be there or be Square.
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Posted by Daniel Miller on 10-Jul-2002 07:46 GMT
In reply to Comment 238 (catohagen):
catohagen typed:
> why the h*ll bother with games anyway....its a waste of
> time, as most (potential) users of both amigaone and
> pegasos were youngsters maybe 10/15 years ago and played
> games then....I can't imagine people 25 years and up
> buying old games ported to amigaone/pegasos, h*ell
> Feeble Files came in 97 ?
I agree with the guy who pointed out that adults play games. I read an article that a lot of people in their thirties and late twenties grew up on video games and continue to play them. It is a form of entertainment, like movies. You don't really say "I used to go to movies when I was a kid, but I outgrew them."
It is an unattainable goal to have equivalents to the greatest current PC games on MorphOS. They have millions and millions of people buying those PC games. They expend millions of dollars in development costs on a single game. But it is possible for us to have good games. RageHard is a surprisingly good example. I would also look forward to the good open-source multiplayer games like FreeCraft and Tales of Tamar and FreeCiv and what have you.
We are now at the advanced stage of development where people are speculating about and looking for the "killer app." I hope some program distinguishes itself in this regard but we don't really HAVE to have a killer app. In my opinion there is a market for diversity, there are people like me who are into a genuine modern alternative computer system, wanting to escape Windows horribleness but not quite buying into Mac or Linux etc. The Pegasos machine and MorphOS can achieve some degree of success in this market, and who knows, they might really take off! It is important to be realistic, but not cynical, about this stuff.
Pegasos and MorphOS presented in Bordeaux : Comment 250 of 257ANN.lu
Posted by ehaines on 10-Jul-2002 10:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 241 (Anonymous):
> The Pegasos is much more of a success and i really hope. the other crappy
> one fails as it will.
So how come nobody has a Pegasos? The AmigaOne is already more successful
and in the hands of more users than the Pegasos, and the "user" version
isn't even out yet.
I have nothing in particular against the Pegasos, and in fact it has far
more in common with the AmigaOne than there are differences, but even the
worst AmigaOne troll isn't half as bad as you. If bplan was smart, they'd
denounce you and tell everyone not to listen your lies. You're the worst
publicity they've got.
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