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Posted on 16-Jul-2002 01:45 GMT by Dietmar Eilert30 comments
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GoldED Studio AIX is the latest update for AmigaOS 3, replacing GoldED Studio 6. A beta version (demo) is available for downloading on the support site site at GoldED Support GoldED Studio Editor: Beta version available

GoldED Studio AIX is the latest and last update for AmigaOS 3, replacing GoldED Studio 6. A beta version (demo) is available for downloading on the support site site at GoldED Support, provided that the free web space providers don't kick the file from their servers because of its size.

The main purpose of this release is to have the software enforcer-tested (I have been unable to run tests with real Amigas, due to lack of such hardware).

Pre-ordering: The new GoldED Studio verison is on sale at a 25% preorder-discount during the betatest-week from 16/July to 22/July.

GoldED Studio AIX Editor (BETA) : Comment 1 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Jul-2002 07:34 GMT
I bought GoldEd 6 on the understanding that GoldEd 7 was to be
freely available download for registered 6 users. What happened?
GoldED Studio AIX Editor (BETA) : Comment 2 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Dietmar Eilert on 16-Jul-2002 08:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Anonymous):
>I bought GoldEd 6 on the understanding that GoldEd 7 was to be
>freely available download for registered 6 users. What happened?
I'm not sure where you got this idea but certainly not from the GoldED web site. GoldED 7 was never planned to be made available as a download and it was never planned to be free for all GoldED 6 users. Why would I do that ? It's commercial software. However, it was announced at some time on the GoldED web site that if you buy GoldED 6 now, you would get a free GoldED 7 CD later. Since AIX has taken the place of release 7, that offer now applies to the AIX CD: if you bought at a time the offer was up on my web site (and if you are registered), the CD is free. The offer does not apply to purchases made before or after that period. Btw, the free CD offer is mentioned on the discounts page.
GoldED Studio AIX Editor (BETA) : Comment 3 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Jul-2002 09:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Dietmar Eilert):
I bought my copy of GoldEd 6 from Software Hut at the first altWOA.
I was unsure whether to buy it because I was aware GoldEd 7 was "just
around the corner", but was assured by Software Hut that 7 will only
be a very small update and it would be a free download for 6 users.
I bought 6 on this basis only as I didn't want to find myself purchasing
7 a few months later. (As it happens though 6, has given me good
service because 7 has taken longer to materialise than anyone expected.)
I don't want to sound like I'm complaining because I'm not, but I find
it interesting that official distibutors of your software, have (in the
past) willingly mislead your customers.
GoldED Studio AIX Editor (BETA) : Comment 4 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Jul-2002 09:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Anonymous):
Apologies to Software Hut.
It was not them I bought GoldEd 6 from, it was Kicksoft.
GoldED Studio AIX Editor (BETA) : Comment 5 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Dietmar Eilert on 16-Jul-2002 09:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Anonymous):
>around the corner", but was assured by Software Hut that 7 will only
>be a very small update and it would be a free download for 6 users.
?!
>I don't want to sound like I'm complaining because I'm not, but I find
>it interesting that official distibutors of your software, have (in the
Software Hut is no official distributor and has never has been one. I assume they didn't actually make that claim, did they ? No idea know they got your CD. Maybe quite old (GTi-produced CD, available to all dealers, not upgradable to later versions), maybe used. GoldED distributors of recent times (KDH, Vesalia etc.) are licensed for sales to end-users only. And they are required to take registrations for me at the moment of sale.
GoldED Studio AIX Editor (BETA) : Comment 6 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by IanG on 16-Jul-2002 10:33 GMT
Quoting the website:
"Hardware requirements: 4 MB RAM and AmigaOS3, graphics card."
No OCS/AGA support at all? (Yes, yes, "upgrade your hardware, don't live in the past, etc." but it's a text editor, not a game or paint package!)
I'd happily beta test (and perhaps pre-order) if it would run on my non-gfx card machine.
GoldED Studio AIX Editor (BETA) : Comment 7 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Dietmar on 16-Jul-2002 11:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (IanG):
> No OCS/AGA support at all? (Yes, yes, "upgrade your hardware, don't live in the past, etc." but it's a text editor, not a game or paint package!)
It can run under OCS/ECXS/AGA with 640x400+ modes. However, with ECS/OCS/AGA there is just not enough screen space for that kind of user interface, not enough bandwidth for the syntax highlighting feature and not enough colors to render the graphics as intended. So yes, you can do it but you don't want to do it.
GoldED Studio AIX Editor (BETA) : Comment 8 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Jul-2002 13:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Dietmar Eilert):
> Software Hut is no official distributor and has never has been one.
I know. I corrected myself in the next post.
> I assume they didn't actually make that claim, did they ?
Kicksoft did.
Not that this matters anyway, as I think the 59 euros
you are asking is perfectly reasonable.
GoldED Studio AIX Editor (BETA) : Comment 9 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by IanG on 16-Jul-2002 14:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Dietmar):
> > No OCS/AGA support at all?
> It can run under OCS/ECXS/AGA with 640x400+ modes. However, with ECS/OCS/AGA
> there is just not enough screen space for that kind of user interface, not
> enough bandwidth for the syntax highlighting feature and not enough colors to
> render the graphics as intended. So yes, you can do it but you don't want to
> do it.
Ah, but that's different. :) "Can" and "Want to" are different things in a hardware requirements list. I found the demo of GoldED6 to run rather nicely under AGA (with FBlit installed), and GE5 runs perfectly. If I can just have the patience to d/l the 17Mb archive, I'll be trying GE AIX.
BTW it is a real shame that this package developemnt has been stopped, it is a great bit of software. Will GE6 still be available for sale, should the new AIX prove unsuitable?
GoldED Studio AIX Editor (BETA) : Comment 10 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Dietmar on 16-Jul-2002 16:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (IanG):
> If I can just have the patience to d/l the 17Mb archive, I'll be
> trying GE AIX.
Hopefully, there'll be a smaller archive soon without spellchecking, that should have a drastic effect on size (like minus 10 MB). On the other hand, if you want to judge the spellchecking module, get it while it's there.
> Will GE6 still be available for sale, should the new AIX prove unsuitable?
What a shocker ;) I don't know. At his time, Vesalia still has some CDs. I, too, have some left. It's quite possible that there'll be a final sell-off.
GoldED Studio AIX Editor (BETA) : Comment 11 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by STRICQ on 16-Jul-2002 18:07 GMT
When will it be for sale? I have an early version of v6 Studio, never upgraded but I do still have the Serial Number (I hope). Will there be an upgrade price?
GoldED Studio AIX Editor (BETA) : Comment 12 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Ryu on 16-Jul-2002 19:22 GMT
hmmm, has the file been removed? I cant seem to get it :(
GoldED Studio AIX Editor (BETA) : Comment 13 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by catohagen on 16-Jul-2002 19:51 GMT
cant get it here either,
While retrieving URL: ftp://ftp.uni-paderborn.de/ftp/aminet/pub/priv/goldedaix.zip
Cannot connect to "gigaserv.uni-paderborn.de"
GoldED Studio AIX Editor (BETA) : Comment 14 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Dietmar on 16-Jul-2002 19:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (catohagen):
>cant get it here either,
>
>While retrieving URL: ftp://ftp.unipaderborn.de/ftp/aminet/pub/priv/goldedaix.zip
Netfirms removed the file due to its size but it is still available at the private folder at aminet Paderborn, it just takes a while and some attempts to start. I'll gladly mirror it somewhere else if somebody can point me to free storage (for 17 MB) with no serious bandwidth limit. Tried ftp.wustl.edu, and they accepted the upload but now don't allow read-access. Go figure. The other Aminet sites don't seem to allow uploads to /priv at all.
GoldED Studio AIX Editor (BETA) : Comment 15 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by catohagen on 16-Jul-2002 20:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Dietmar):
as a last resort, i could host the file at my ISP homepage(norway)..no bw restricions
as i'm aware of..
GoldED Studio AIX Editor (BETA) : Comment 16 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by STRICQ on 16-Jul-2002 21:38 GMT
I've got the demo and installed it. It does not want to run. It complains about missing 'standard.misc' which is not in the archive. Furthermore, none of the add-ons installed. This may be because of the 'demo' status for all I know. Anyone have any clues about the 'standard.misc' missing file problem?
GoldED Studio AIX Editor (BETA) : Comment 17 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Dietmar on 16-Jul-2002 22:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (STRICQ):
>I've got the demo and installed it. It does not want to run. It complains >about missing 'standard.misc' which is not in the archive [...]
If you think that is not in the archive, something is wrong with your unzip or the downloaded zip file. I don't have an Amiga, winzip was used for the archive integrity test. There are 3863 files in the archive and the size is 17.720.037 bytes. "standard.misc" is in installdata/registry/presets after unpacking.
GoldED Studio AIX Editor (BETA) : Comment 18 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by STRICQ on 16-Jul-2002 22:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Dietmar):
Ok, got that, now it asks for 'standard.mouse'. The Installer doesn't install everything for some reason. (At least for me...)
GoldED Studio AIX Editor (BETA) : Comment 19 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Dietmar on 17-Jul-2002 04:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (STRICQ):
>Ok, got that, now it asks for 'standard.mouse'. The Installer doesn't install >everything for some reason. (At least for me...)
I don't know what's going wrong there. The installation script has hardly changed from the previous commercial versions and there have been no bug reports for it so far. Please check the obvious things, like free disk space and free memory during installation. If that's ok, please do a minimum installation to a new folder, with logging enabled, and send me the logfile (which can be found in ram:t after installation). Logging is enabled with a checkbox on one of the early dialog pages shown during installation.
GoldED Studio AIX Editor (BETA) : Comment 20 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Dietmar on 17-Jul-2002 10:28 GMT
The second beta is now online. Spell checking and thesaurus hae been removed, reducing the size ot approx 9 MB. The updated archive is packed with lzx to remedy unzip-related problems. The link can be found here:
http://golded.dietmar-eilert.de/projects/golded/demo.htm
Or the direct link at this time:
ftp://ftp.uni-paderborn.de/ftp/aminet/pub/priv/golded.beta.2.lzx
GoldED Studio AIX Editor (BETA) : Comment 21 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Ryu on 17-Jul-2002 16:19 GMT
is the old beta still avaliable? i want the spellcheker :) someone host it please
GoldED Studio AIX Editor (BETA) : Comment 22 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by catohagen on 17-Jul-2002 20:52 GMT
why can't i even login to the server ? wierd...
Connected to gigaserv.uni-paderborn.de.
421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection.
MiamiFtp>
GoldED Studio AIX Editor (BETA) : Comment 23 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by IanG on 19-Jul-2002 11:16 GMT
I tried the new demo on 68060 AGA 64 colour WB at 704x528, running FBlit and one or two other patches. I hope Dietmar will be pleased to hear that, despite his reservations, it scrolled at a very acceptable speed, even with lots of syntax highlighting. It would be better, as he says, with more screen space but it is quite useable with a smaller font.
The demo achive seems to mainly consist of a complete VBCC and OS3.9 NDK installation. It could be half the size were it not for those. If there are bandwidth problems, removing the support module for those things would not hurt as a demo IMHO.
For what it's worth, I'd have liked to have seen a Titlebar-Stacked multi-window layout to add to the horiz/vert tiled. That this is the only significant feature issue I can find to criticise shows what a nice piece of software it is.
PS to Dietmar: Will the region-encoding protection affect the software's ability to run on an AmigaOne/OS4?
GoldED Studio AIX Editor (BETA) : Comment 24 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Dietmar on 19-Jul-2002 16:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (IanG):
>The demo achive seems to mainly consist of a complete VBCC and OS3.9 NDK >installation. It could be half the size were it not for those.
I consider the C/C++ mode to be by far the best part of GoldED and I'm quite happy to have received permission to include the NDK and the excellent vbcc compiler. I'm sure that somebody out there appreciates the opportunity to see compiler, developer material and an editor well-integrated without the hassle of downloading this here and that there before starting the beta. Well-integrated means that you get automatic makefile generation, the NDK is cross-referenced, and vbcc options can be set via dialogs (to use it like SAS/C).
>For what it's worth, I'd have liked to have seen a Titlebar-Stacked multi->window layout to add to the horiz/vert tiled. That this is the only >significant feature issue I can find to criticise shows what a nice piece of >software it is.
I've never understood the purpose of tiling windows that way, they remain mostly obscured. The sole purpose appears to be selecting a window. However, with GoldED, you switch from one window to another via the window tabs that hang below the toolbar. You can leave all windows at full size. Or you use the next-window shortcut.
>PS to Dietmar: Will the region-encoding protection affect the software's >ability to run on an AmigaOne/OS4?
GoldED is for AmigaOS 3. I'd be (positively) surprised if it runs under the planned OS4. However, if it runs then this part will run, too, it's nothing exotic. Just the country and timezone read from the Locale.
GoldED Studio AIX Editor (BETA) : Comment 25 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Jon on 19-Jul-2002 20:03 GMT
GoldED is the best editor I have ever used on any system :)
I tried to buy the version 6 but they were sold out from local dealer..are they available anymore?
I am currently using version 5 which was freely downloadable some time ago.
GoldED Studio AIX Editor (BETA) : Comment 26 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 19-Jul-2002 21:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Jon):
>I tried to buy the version 6 but they were sold out from local dealer..are >they available anymore?
Kicksoft/Uk has bought the remaining stock.
GoldED Studio AIX Editor (BETA) : Comment 27 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by IanG on 21-Jul-2002 09:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Dietmar):
>>The demo achive seems to mainly consist of a complete VBCC and OS3.9NDK
>>installation. It could be half the size were it not for those.
> I consider the C/C++ mode to be by far the best part of GoldED and
> I'm quite happy to have received permission to include the NDK and
> the excellent vbcc compiler. I'm sure that somebody out there
> appreciates the opportunity to see compiler, developer material and
> an editor well-integrated without the hassle of downloading this
I do not question the desirability of the feature. (It would be one of
the uses I would have for the package.) I just felt that it need not
be part of a demo. No offence intended! :)
>>For what it's worth, I'd have liked to have seen a Titlebar-Stacked
>> multi-window layout to add to the horiz/vert tiled.
>I've never understood the purpose of tiling windows that way, they
>remain mostly obscured. The sole purpose appears to be selecting a
>window. However, with GoldED, you switch from one window to another
>via the window tabs that hang below the toolbar.
OK. Fair point. With the tabs it does make it redundant.
>> Will the region-encoding protection affect the software's ability
>> to run on an AmigaOne/OS4?
>GoldED is for AmigaOS 3. I'd be (positively) surprised if it runs
>under the planned OS4. However, if it runs then this part will run,
Great. :) I think OS4 would have fairly poor compatibility if an
(apparently) system-friendly app like GoldEd failed to run.
Any estimates yet about when this new version is likely to be on sale?
GoldED Studio AIX Editor (BETA) : Comment 28 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by IanG on 21-Jul-2002 09:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Dietmar):
>>The demo achive seems to mainly consist of a complete VBCC and OS3.9NDK
>>installation. It could be half the size were it not for those.
> I consider the C/C++ mode to be by far the best part of GoldED and
> I'm quite happy to have received permission to include the NDK and
> the excellent vbcc compiler. I'm sure that somebody out there
> appreciates the opportunity to see compiler, developer material and
> an editor well-integrated without the hassle of downloading this
I do not question the desirability of the feature. (It would be one of
the uses I would have for the package.) I just felt that it need not
be part of a demo. No offence intended! :)
>>For what it's worth, I'd have liked to have seen a Titlebar-Stacked
>> multi-window layout to add to the horiz/vert tiled.
>I've never understood the purpose of tiling windows that way, they
>remain mostly obscured. The sole purpose appears to be selecting a
>window. However, with GoldED, you switch from one window to another
>via the window tabs that hang below the toolbar.
OK. Fair point. With the tabs it does make it redundant.
>> Will the region-encoding protection affect the software's ability
>> to run on an AmigaOne/OS4?
>GoldED is for AmigaOS 3. I'd be (positively) surprised if it runs
>under the planned OS4. However, if it runs then this part will run,
Great. :) I think OS4 would have fairly poor compatibility if an
(apparently) system-friendly app like GoldEd failed to run.
Any estimates yet about when this new version is likely to be on sale?
GoldED Studio AIX Editor (BETA) : Comment 29 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Dietmar on 21-Jul-2002 13:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (IanG):
> Any estimates yet about when this new version is likely to be on sale?
It is on sale, for example via PayPal at
http://golded.dietmar-eilert.de/projects/golded/order.htm
Shipping will start the day after tommorow, end of betatest week (and end of the preorder discount).
GoldED Studio AIX Editor (BETA) : Comment 30 of 30ANN.lu
Posted by Jens Langner on 23-Jul-2002 09:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Dietmar):
Hi.
First..Nice to see a new GoldED release, but what I cannot understand is that GoldED 7 is somehow discontinued and still it is on sale. So where is the point of buying a full product when it is clear that there will be no updates at all?
Second, the ONLY thing at GoldED that I ever found disturbing is the fact that it keeps every file in a separate window (iam not talking about tiling) but I would like to see golded managing multiple files in ONE window. That means that if I press the tab button of another file it should NOT switch the window it should indeed bring the new file in the actual window!
But puh, why I am talking about this, Dietmar dropped support ;)
And third, I would love to see GoldED released (L)GPL or continued by other developers. But I guess Dietmar wants again money for the sources...
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