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[News] Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France!ANN.lu
Posted on 25-Jul-2002 17:05 GMT by Frodon33 comments
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The TripleA and AFUA french Amiga users associations are proud to present you the Alchimie 2 and A-Expo event.
It's the combination of an Amiga party (Alchimie 2) and an Amiga Expo (A-Expo) at the same time.
This event will be held in Tain l'Hermitage near Valence in France the 7th and 8th of September 2002.

We already had the confirmation of the coming of both Eyetech Group Ltd and Thendic-France SARL and so AmigaOne and Pegasos will be demonstrated there!

You can find more information about it in the following website: A-Expo website
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 1 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 25-Jul-2002 15:31 GMT
Interesting. I see there are only two exhibitors (perhaps there aren┤t so many actors left on the Amiga market now), but it is the two most interesting ones!
I hope that someone will make some GOOD screenshots this time. ;-)
I also hopes that you who visits the expo pushes both Eyetech and Thendic for some information regarding availability of their products and so on (if they still hasn┤t become available by then).
Looking forward to a detailed show report!
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 2 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Joanna on 25-Jul-2002 16:01 GMT
First time since Commocodre DevCons this wouls be a good reason to travel across europe to see something new. Interesting.
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 3 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Ryu on 25-Jul-2002 16:41 GMT
oooh handbags at 10 paces, I can see it now ;)
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 4 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by JosÚ on 25-Jul-2002 16:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (Joanna):
What?! You're gonna travel "across" Europe just to see close to nothing but 2 machines booting Linux?:)
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 5 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 25-Jul-2002 17:12 GMT
May I hereby suggest the only *rational* way to settle the hardware wars is a Quake or Sin deathmatch run between the A1 and Pegasos? :)
Both systems have Linux available, and presumably networking support by now; it would certainly be a demonstration that the hardware remains interoperable at the basest level (although I wonder if there are any Amigans left who still don't realize you can run a heterogenous LAN), and both sides can try to crush the competition in meaningful fashion!
Of course, this shouldn't overshadow any real demonstrations, but it'd be a nice closer.
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 6 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 25-Jul-2002 17:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Joe "Floid" Kanowitz):
Er, scratch Sin if it's not out for LinuxPPC- I need to stop doing that.
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 7 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Frodon on 25-Jul-2002 17:35 GMT
Hello,
For your information there is also the possibility to book your ticket for the event through the website.
I advice you a lot to do so as if you don't book, you'll have to pay more.
The price is 11 Euros per day of coming. It's 10 Euros for AFUA and/or TripleA members.
Oh also, the Pegasos will of course be shown running MorphOS and the AmigaOne will may be shown running AmigaOS 4 (or a first piece of it...)
Regards
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 8 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Darrin on 25-Jul-2002 18:16 GMT
So Thendic will be at this Amiga event demonstrating the Pegasos running MOS. I'm confused, is this the same Thendic that were posting here on ANN that they were not targeting the Amiga market?
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 9 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 25-Jul-2002 18:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Joe "Floid" Kanowitz):
> May I hereby suggest the only *rational* way to settle the hardware wars is a
> Quake or Sin deathmatch run between the A1 and Pegasos? :)
> Both systems have Linux available, and presumably networking support by now;
> it would certainly be a demonstration that the hardware remains interoperable
> at the basest level (although I wonder if there are any Amigans left who
> still don't realize you can run a heterogenous LAN), and both sides can try
> to crush the competition in meaningful fashion!
An interesting idea. But you would propably get quite similar results. The hardware is quite similar, although the Pegasos has more functionality built in (like firewire, DOC option, processormodule, etc). But that wouldn't show off in gaming. Perhaps if the Pegasos uses a dual G4 card, but I haven't heard about the existance of those yet. Only single G4 prototypes ...
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 10 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by catohagen on 25-Jul-2002 18:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (Frodon):
>and the AmigaOne will may be shown running AmigaOS 4 (or a first piece of it...)
Where did you get this info from ? Or are you guessing ?
Would be good if OS4 are at the stage where its demoable...
And where are the better MOS-bench screenshoots promised by Bill Buck ? :)
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 11 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 25-Jul-2002 18:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (catohagen):
>Where did you get this info from ? Or are you guessing ?
Well Alan said the kernel works (more or less), so they could show some debug
info. I'm sure people will be impressed :)
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 12 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Frodon on 25-Jul-2002 19:15 GMT
Hello,
@cotahagen: Yes of course I'm guessing.
@Darrin: I think you misunderstood. What I understood personally is that Thendic is not only targetting the Amiga market. And it's quite logical, the Amiga market is actually too small.
That's why I think Thendic just want to create their market (which can be called "MorphOS market" I think :) ). And of course they are also targetting the Linux market as the Pegasos will come with Linux too.
Regards
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 13 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 25-Jul-2002 19:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (JosÚ):
Nope. 1 machine running Linux and 1 machine running Morphos.
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 14 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 25-Jul-2002 19:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Anonymous):
Anonymous responded,
>An interesting idea. But you would propably get quite similar results. The
>hardware is quite similar, although the Pegasos has more functionality built in
>(like firewire, DOC option, processormodule, etc). But that wouldn't show off
>in gaming. Perhaps if the Pegasos uses a dual G4 card, but I haven't heard
>about the existance of those yet. Only single G4 prototypes ...
Note that a 'deathmatch' refers to a good ol' tournament of Quake, not a benchmarking session. The hardware *would* be pretty even, it'd be largely up to the players' skill to win, and it would be a useful reminder that, as far as the Amiga scene goes, "fun" still is the driving force.
Whoever came out on top could, of course, attribute their win to their superior hardware, everyone could have a grin, and we'd get to see what'd happen in next year's round... ;)
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 15 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Daniel Miller on 25-Jul-2002 20:26 GMT
May the best system win!
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 16 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Anders Kjeldsen on 25-Jul-2002 20:51 GMT
I feel like some information is held back ;)
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 17 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by JosÚ on 25-Jul-2002 20:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Pah even worse:)
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 18 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 25-Jul-2002 21:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (Darrin):
Obviously the Pegasos does not run AmigaOS, so they cannot target the Amiga market.
Instead they will show MorphOS - good enough for you?
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 19 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Troels E on 25-Jul-2002 22:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (David Scheibler):
Hi David
I often wondered how deeply you are involved with Morphos/Bplan, since you have to (try to) slam Hyperion/eyetech whenever you get the chance.
Are you hired by Bplan/Thendic/morphos?
Just wondering!
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 20 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Joe "Floid" Kanowitz on 25-Jul-2002 23:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Troels E):
Troels said,
>I often wondered how deeply you are involved with Morphos/Bplan, since you have
>to (try to) slam Hyperion/eyetech whenever you get the chance.
I think his comment equally pokes at MorphOS/bPlan there; they too went through the showing-off-debugging-output phase at last.. November(?)..'s demo, and from what seems to be said on the Amiga.org IRC channel, there's a beta (alpha?) or two around sounding about that far along from Hyperion...
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 21 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Christophe Decanini on 26-Jul-2002 01:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Troels E):
David is well informed for sure.
Some people guess, some people know.
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 22 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Senex (Martin Heine) on 26-Jul-2002 02:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (catohagen):
> And where are the better MOS-bench screenshoots
> promised by Bill Buck ? :)
Isn't it quite obvious? Seems Ralph didn't agree with Bill on showing something to the public before it's 100% completed.
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 23 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Joanna on 26-Jul-2002 04:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (JosÚ):
Well. I don't personally care about Linux, but these new machines are the first ones I consider interesting enough on Amiga market on allmost 10 or so years to be good anough to get me back using them on daily basis.
And yes.. I'm still open to alternatives... So no flames on one or another, please
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 24 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by anarchic_teapot on 26-Jul-2002 09:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (Joe "Floid" Kanowitz):
> Er, scratch Sin if it's not out for LinuxPPC- I need to stop doing that.
Ole-Egil Hvitmyren posted photos showing the demo of Sin running on his A1.
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 25 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 26-Jul-2002 14:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Christophe Decanini):
I didn't ask if David was just "well informed", I don't doubt he is.
He is spreading FUD about Amiga/Hyperion/Eyetech and that is illegal if he is working for a competitor as I believe he is.
Why don't you answer me David, do you work for Bplan/Morphos/Thendic, or have you submitted any work to them. I believe you are working for them, but you see I also am "well informed".
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 26 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 26-Jul-2002 15:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Troels E):
>Are you hired by Bplan/Thendic/morphos?
If I was I wouldn't posting here.
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 27 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Troels Ersking on 26-Jul-2002 17:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (David Scheibler):
Sorry I didn't believe you, my mistake.
I forgot you are not hired yet...
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 28 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 26-Jul-2002 17:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Troels Ersking):
>I forgot you are not hired yet...
Oh please tell me/us when I will be hired...
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 29 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Troels E on 26-Jul-2002 17:46 GMT
Check your mail David.
Sorry if I was wrong
Allthough I still don't think all the FUD you are spreading are very smart.
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 30 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 26-Jul-2002 21:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (Troels E):
A running OS4 is FUD? *ROTFLOL*
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 31 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 26-Jul-2002 22:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (anarchic_teapot):
A demo is all there was. That's the way it goes with Hyperion, lots of projects but not a lot of ability to deliver.
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 32 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 27-Jul-2002 21:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (anarchic_teapot):
should say his mac mickysoft run clone
Alchimie 2 and A-Expo: The biggest event of the year in France! : Comment 33 of 33ANN.lu
Posted by Kokinou on 06-Aug-2002 15:18 GMT
Glop glop,
Many exhibitors will come to the Alchimie 2 #biggest show in town# in France; Eyetech (AmigaOne presentation), Thendic-France (Pegasos pre-orders), Triple A association (endless deliriums), AFUA association, AFLE association, Amigazette Association, APS, Relec, PureLamers... It will be a great moment, as the Anthology (from the Beatles ;-)
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