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[News] The "I Am Amiga" promotion has ended!ANN.lu
Posted on 26-Jul-2002 10:41 GMT by et134 comments
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And the total is.. 940. Not bad. "Countdown to the draw: The promotion has ended. Coupon count may still rise as third party dealers submit their sales. Winners will be announced soon." .. So, we could well make the 1000 mark, well done people, I hope you all order AmigaOnes as soon as they are available :) et
The "I Am Amiga" promotion has ended! : Comment 101 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Some Farker on 27-Jul-2002 15:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 69 (anonymous):
"Would you purchase an OS4 license if it were available for x86 systems?"
Remember: Only Stupid Americans want an X86-based Amiga OS.
The "I Am Amiga" promotion has ended! : Comment 102 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Christian Kemp on 27-Jul-2002 15:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 101 (Some Farker):
> Remember: Only Stupid Americans want an X86-based Amiga OS
I guess I'm a Stupid American, then :)
Now where do I get my green card?
The "I Am Amiga" promotion has ended! : Comment 103 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Some Farker on 27-Jul-2002 16:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 102 (Christian Kemp):
>I guess I'm a Stupid American, then :)
>Now where do I get my green card?
Ask Hyperion. They can help you emigrate to the United States of Stupid Americans. Just ask them! They'll proudly tell you what they think of those who want an x86 AmigaOS (like myself).
The "I Am Amiga" promotion has ended! : Comment 104 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by TBone on 27-Jul-2002 16:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 103 (Some Farker):
"Ask Hyperion. They can help you emigrate to the United States of Stupid Americans. Just ask them! They'll proudly tell you what they think of those who want an x86 AmigaOS (like myself). "
I thought the term used was "Uneducated Americans" but I may have misread it.
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Posted by Anonymous on 27-Jul-2002 16:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 98 (Don Cox):
Perhaps you could explain (by contrast) what is unique about Public Screens and ARexx ?
I'm thinking that the appropriate things to contrast with Public Screens would be Unix virtual consoles, X virtual desktops (and their equivalents on more modern windowing systems), and the switch-user feature in Home versions of Windows XP
With ARexx I guess the things to contrast would be Applescript and Windows Scripting Host - in both cases the language is "pluggable" but you can discuss the default languages if that's appropriate (there are analogous features on Unix systems but none of them are suitably universal)
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Posted by dammy on 27-Jul-2002 17:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 101 (Some Farker):
Copying off of Apple is the bright European way huh? Please.....
Dammy
The "I Am Amiga" promotion has ended! : Comment 107 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Some Farker on 27-Jul-2002 17:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 106 (dammy):
>Copying off of Apple is the bright European way huh? Please.....
Wouldn't know - I'm just a Stupid American. I need to shut up and take whatever Hyperion *wants* me to have, not what *I* want.
The "I Am Amiga" promotion has ended! : Comment 108 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Jerry Gibbons on 27-Jul-2002 17:12 GMT
Get ready AMIGA folks for an exciting time!
The nay sayers have had the their opportunity to flame us all with doom & gloom for months and months.
The future of our AMIGA is going to be a sight to behold.
The "I Am Amiga" promotion has ended! : Comment 109 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Dammy on 27-Jul-2002 17:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 107 (Some Farker):
No, no, no! That makes you a bright European! Bright Europeans know that their elite leaders knows what is best for them, and will act accordingly. And for this removal of the strain of independent thinking on the common man, complete allegiance is given to those leaders by the common man.
Oh, I guess being one of those fellow stupid americans, I'm probably getting it all wron. Its probably Jobs following HYPErion/Eyetech, and not HYPErion/Eyetech imitating Jobs marketing plan. Right? ;->
Dammy, dreaming of next year's x86-64s system upgrades...
The "I Am Amiga" promotion has ended! : Comment 110 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by mojo jojo on 27-Jul-2002 17:48 GMT
To increase awareness of the Amiga, I command you to show the computer in a cartoon! And we shall rule the computing world together! You, Amiga, shall be queen!
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Posted by Anonymous on 27-Jul-2002 18:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 109 (Dammy):
Hey, what about us Europeans who also want cheaper, better and faster stuff? We already know that we're idiots and pirates according to Mr. Redhouse, but we've not yet been assessed by Mr. Hermans... :-P
Nice that at least Amiga Inc knows what's best for all of us silly customers, no matter where we come from, and protects us from all those evil noon-licensees.
The "I Am Amiga" promotion has ended! : Comment 112 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 27-Jul-2002 18:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 111 (Anonymous):
"noon"non
The "I Am Amiga" promotion has ended! : Comment 113 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Mekanix on 27-Jul-2002 18:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 69 (anonymous):
> Would you purchase an OS4 license if it were
> available for x86 systems?
After Ben Hermanns have been pissing on all x86-users... I'd say he'd lost that market for good. I wouldn't touch OS4 if it were ever released for x86...
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Posted by Anonymous on 27-Jul-2002 18:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 110 (mojo jojo):
Hey Mojo Jojo, get out of the nachos. Get out of the nachos, get out.
The "I Am Amiga" promotion has ended! : Comment 115 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Bill on 27-Jul-2002 21:54 GMT
Thank God. I mean that in the truest sense. you have to buy into somethign to say your something.
Not even Mac people are that stupid. Well, then again this community isnt what it once was in fact
its not the community at all.
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Posted by Joel Cholakians on 27-Jul-2002 22:10 GMT
WOW!
The world of work has been very slow for many around the world. If this had been 1999 I’m sure the sales would have been around 4-5k. I would have bough one IF I had a spare $50.00US. I WILL be buying the new machine if I have a job when it comes out and offcourse running LINUX, MAC and AMIGA rules… all at the SAME TIME!!!
The "I Am Amiga" promotion has ended! : Comment 117 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by [ujb] on 27-Jul-2002 23:02 GMT
@ Hagge
If you´re thinking AmigaOS 4 wouldn´t have enough improvements, take a deep look
to MorphOS.
I guess you know about it, it´s really far ahaed and truly modern.
This is no flamebait only a tip 4 Hagge
The "I Am Amiga" promotion has ended! : Comment 118 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Alkemyst on 28-Jul-2002 05:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 117 ([ujb]):
@ Hagge
If you´re thinking AmigaOS 4 wouldn´t have enough improvements, take a deep look
to WindowsXP.
I guess you know about it, it´s really far ahaed and truly modern.
This is no flamebait only a tip 4 Hagge
@ Hagge
If you´re thinking AmigaOS 4 wouldn´t have enough improvements, take a deep look
to MacOSX.
I guess you know about it, it´s really far ahaed and truly modern.
This is no flamebait only a tip 4 Hagge
yep just like post 117 whats it git todo with AmigsOs4
The "I Am Amiga" promotion has ended! : Comment 119 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by [ujb] on 28-Jul-2002 09:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 118 (Alkemyst):
Is any other OS than MOS compatible to AOS?
That´s the point. Nothing more.
Make love not war!
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Posted by Hagge on 28-Jul-2002 11:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 92 (alan buxey):
> .....waht confuses me is the number of anti-amiga people and people
>who dont care about amiga who waste their life reading this Amiga
>news site...and wasting their life posting crap on this list.
I'm not anti-amiga and i do care about what they are doing and if something was crap it was your post. You don't have to be against amiga just because you think they aren't/wasn't doing the right thing or because stuff is made to slow or even if you belive another system is better.
>why?? does their system not have any community? are they so without a life?
>oh well....back to the shadows again.
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Posted by Hagge on 28-Jul-2002 11:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 96 (Anonymous):
>Looks like it was WB 3.0, not 2.0 in 1992, at least for the A1200 and A4000
>according to Workbench Nostalgia.
feels great to have right ;)
The "I Am Amiga" promotion has ended! : Comment 122 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Hagge on 28-Jul-2002 11:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 97 (Alkemyst):
>your amiga spec is a joke.
>no wonder you think amiga is so fare behind
wow, i guess i haven't noticed that i have not bought any new amiga hardware the last 7 years or so... or not.
Since then does it matter what amiga hardware I've got? You ppl just belive I have no idea of anything at all which is completely wrong.
Even if i would have AmigaOS 3.9 and CyberStorm PPC sitting in a A4000 the hardware would still be slow, the os outdated and there wouldn't be any apps.
And i don't THINK, for almost everyone it's a fact that Amiga is far behind...
>PowerTower
>A1200,060/80Mhz,Heatsink&Fan,66MBRam,PowerFlyerGold,50xCDromdrive,250Zip,2.1GB&34GB
>HD,internal Scandoubler & FF,19"Monitor,Mediator,Voodoo3-3000,PaceSolo 56k
>,PortJnr2,ZEKeys-XS,SMON ,Os3.9
>& that can do things that your spec amiga could not even dream about.
which doesn't matter since there are "no programs" which uses the hardware anyway.
What is wrong with you guys, i've always read ann daily, i do know which hardware and apps is available and which are not, and having a slow overpriced ppc with outdated games just don't happen to be my choice.
scraping AmigaOS and made QNX more amiga-like would have been the correct thing.
>its funny that alot of times i see negative comments by ppl about the way things
>are going & them ppl have low spec amigas. just like the A500 ppl moaned at to
>much stuff not running on a500 & most new stuff is aga.
well, right now there kind of are new stuff and will probably not come any either.
And my specs doesn't change the facts, i just haven't upgrade because there was no meaning to.
A friend got 060 then they where released, was nice and i wanted one but it was to expensive.
I wanted the A\Box but it was never released.
Another friend got Blizzard 603@180MHz then they where released, I was thinking in getting one but because there where no apps released i didn't. Which was a good thing.
Gateways plans for a new amiga sounded good and i wanted one.
Until recently i was thinking about getting an amigaone, lets say a year ago. But then they where talking about a new version of the OS every half year and hardware using G4 which should have been released a long time ago.
Now i don't think their aren't any great development in AmigaOS, the hw is to "bad" and to late and I have started looking at alternatives.
As i said to someone else, you don't have to be "anti-amiga" just because you don't like what you see. A open-source version of AmigaOS would for example give me more hope, because then i would at least know there would be continues development for the os, and that i probably sooner or later could use more and more hardware.
And in the end a similar speced laptop as the AmigaONE costs $1.199 and you get a MODERN os which will probably have 5.000.000 users by the end of the year, which has new apps and which probably will be developed in the future.
The AmigaONE is said to cost $550 or something? I doesn't remember, add a gfxcard $100, memory $50, harddrive $200, case $100, cd-rom $50 and you are at $1050 without a monitor. I don't think the choice is a hard one.
I don't think many ppl do care about my posts and that i therefor shouldn't post them, but as long as ppl missunderstand me and thinks i'm "evil" just because i don't think a say 4.000 ppl userbase will help amiga...
The "I Am Amiga" promotion has ended! : Comment 123 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 28-Jul-2002 11:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 98 (Don Cox):
>"AmigaOS4 probably needs some NEW functions which has never been seen before if
>Amiga Inc wants
>more users. vm and memory protection is good, but "all" other oses
>already have them to. "
>New functions that really do something worth while are always good,
>but if you just rack your brains to think of something new that the
>others don't have, you are more likely to get gimmicks.
>We do have two unique features that make Amiga multitasking more
>functional that multitasking elsewhere - public screens and ARexx.
You can use a lot of desktops/screens in a lot of the window managers for X and probably in a few non-unix oses aswell. They can probably not have another resolution but i don't care about that... Why would i not want to use 1600x1200 for every app...
Arexx is a good thing, and sheep will probably be even better. But they are probably not impossible to implement in another os if you want to.
>One possible thing to consider would be to make the Amiga more
>configurable than Mac or Windows. For example, you have a choice now
>between Workbench, Scalos and Magellan. How about some more Workbench
>alternatives with really way out interfaces?
>Most people would hate each one, but some would love them. An obvious
>one is a fully 3D Workbench replacement, using the acceleration on a
>graphics card. A speech-operated one. One with different noises for
>everything (like KidPix paint program). One that is designed to be as
>hard to use as possible, turning the WB into a game.
intresting thoughts, and of course it would be good if you could have a lot of different interfaces for different kind of users.
The window manager i use right now is ratpoison which doesn't handle windows at all, it just maximizes all programs and let you switch between them with your keyboard, you can split the screen with keycombinations to but i never use that function. To me it's great but for some users it would probably mean problems.
>The other thing to aim at is really fast interrupt response, with no
>IRQ conflicts ever. (These are still not dead on Windows, in spite of
>PCI.)
I don't use Windows and I have no plans in doing so, so if it's a windows issue I don't have a problem with it.
If it's a x86 issue I won't buy an x86 anyway.
If it's a PCI issue AmigaONE uses PCI to
So actually it's not a problem.
>Another unique Amiga feature is that you can talk to the person who
>wrote the program. Try getting into direct contact with an Adobe or
>Macromedia coder and see how close you get.
It's not unique, it just doesn't happen in the windows world.
Windows and AmigaOS is not the only OSes available.
The "I Am Amiga" promotion has ended! : Comment 124 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Hagge on 28-Jul-2002 11:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 123 (Anonymous):
that one was from me...
The "I Am Amiga" promotion has ended! : Comment 125 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Hagge on 28-Jul-2002 12:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 117 ([ujb]):
>If you´re thinking AmigaOS 4 wouldn´t have enough improvements, take a deep look
>to MorphOS.
>I guess you know about it, it´s really far ahaed and truly modern.
yes, i do know about it, but i haven't liked it because "it's not amiga" just like probably most ppl does... But it's probably a better product. One question i do have is how many users it will get, probably even less than amiga =/...
And because i've only used unixes the last couple of years and because i was watching some macworld video with someone i know i've actually started to thinking about it... My unix is choice happens to be OpenBSD, it's "clean", quite secure, well documented, easy to use (not as in red hat with a lot of programs for configuration, but it's easy to find your way in the filesystem and the documentation helps you to do the things you want to do) and so on. It does however have problem with playing movies for example, and of course there are no real games for it (not that i play games often...), so having a unix which actually works is probably nice.
I don't like how macos looks thought, but i think you can run x to so that isn't a real excuse, but then the usual gui is probably a lot smarter than any window manager available for x so i would probably end up using it anyway.
>This is no flamebait only a tip 4 Hagge
and my posts aren't either.
I don't hate amiga.
I don't want amiga to fail.
I don't try to convince everyone amiga is a bad thing.
The only things i do is writing down what i think and belive. Don't hate me for that.
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Posted by Hagge on 28-Jul-2002 12:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 118 (Alkemyst):
>If you´re thinking AmigaOS 4 wouldn´t have enough improvements, take a deep look
>to WindowsXP.
>I guess you know about it, it´s really far ahaed and truly modern.
>This is no flamebait only a tip 4 Hagge
i know you didn't mean that... but i will NOT use any m$ products at all until i'm forced to (that is if palladium is succesfull and microsofts takes over the world and so on, which is not very likely).
>If you´re thinking AmigaOS 4 wouldn´t have enough improvements, take a deep
>look to MacOSX.
>I guess you know about it, it´s really far ahaed and truly modern.
>This is no flamebait only a tip 4 Hagge
I have, I have never used the os thought...
The "I Am Amiga" promotion has ended! : Comment 127 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 29-Jul-2002 06:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 50 (Hagge):
Did I miss anything? What exactly do you consider as "so much"? The only price tag ive seen so far is 81€ for an A1 board + OS4, you dont want to tell me thats expensive?
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Posted by Ole-Egil on 29-Jul-2002 07:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 50 (Hagge):
Ok. Then what will you do?
You buy a Mac and ditch the Amiga. Do you leave the Amiga sites and start bugging the Mac people, or are we left with you jerking off your new "superior" hardware every thread?
Seriously, I'm wondering. Do people who have left the train ever leave the trains bulletin board anymore? Because frankly, I am more worried about the signal to noise ratio of amiga mailing lists and news sites than what will become of AOS4.
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Posted by Ole-Egil on 29-Jul-2002 07:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 53 (Don Cox):
There IS a market for AmigaOS. The problem is being taken seriously long enough to get some applications ported. A few thousand people with a few years of experience could come up with some good software, but it seems all they want to do is whine.
"Amiga will fail" is a self-fulfilling prophecy, so stop it before it's too late :-)
Much better to work for something you would want to have even if you think it won't succeed and be wrong than working against it because you think it won't succeed and be right, no?
The "I Am Amiga" promotion has ended! : Comment 130 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by vortexau on 29-Jul-2002 10:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 107 (Some Farker):
I've observed that MOST of the world's x86 machines require Helpdesk, just like pre-1930s autos required the Auto Club.
For general motoring I prefer post-1964 automobiles! I have NEVER been a member of an Auto Club!
The "I Am Amiga" promotion has ended! : Comment 131 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Hagge on 29-Jul-2002 10:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 127 (Anonymous):
there have been prices in $ and UK £ to, don't know if they where correct thought.
The "I Am Amiga" promotion has ended! : Comment 132 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Hagge on 29-Jul-2002 10:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 128 (Ole-Egil):
>Ok. Then what will you do?
>You buy a Mac and ditch the Amiga. Do you leave the Amiga sites and start bugging
>the Mac people, or are we left with you jerking off your new "superior" hardware
>every thread?
depends on how succesfull amiga inc is.
The "I Am Amiga" promotion has ended! : Comment 133 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by Sune on 29-Jul-2002 16:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Anonymous):
No! He´s an asshole!
The "I Am Amiga" promotion has ended! : Comment 134 of 134ANN.lu
Posted by suzuki on 29-Jul-2002 17:46 GMT
now Amiga can't fight against even Apple! Now that's really sad!
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