|[News] Amiga Inc. Plans to Shutdown Illegal Uses of Amiga IP||ANN.lu|
|Posted on 28-Jul-2002 03:51 GMT by STRICQ||172 comments|
The deadline is September 1st, 2002. After then, anyone not on good legal standing with Amiga Inc. will be sued.
|Amiga Inc. Plans to Shutdown Illegal Uses of Amiga IP : Comment 151 of 172||ANN.lu|
|Posted by Anonymous on 31-Jul-2002 06:12 GMT|
|In reply to Comment 36 (dammy):|
Well...like myself, many if not most registered online, thus they would
still have their registration cards. Even if they didn't register online,
there were two registration cards included, one in English and one in
German. It seems to me that it would be a simple matter to scan the
registration cards, all of which have a unique registration number
and email them to Bernie. Then he could compile a list of numbers and offer
an upgrade to those numbers ONCE! Also, if anyone registered online they
received a registration confirmation email. There are definately ways for
people who legally own AmigaOS XL/Amithlon to receive an upgrade at a reduced
price. Not to do so would be shameful!
|Amiga Inc. Plans to Shutdown Illegal Uses of Amiga IP : Comment 152 of 172||ANN.lu|
|Posted by Anonymous on 31-Jul-2002 06:16 GMT|
|In reply to Comment 40 (Bill Hoggett):|
It would be a simple matter to learn the sales details, as I detailed
above. One scan of a registration cardone update for that registration
number, not to mention the fact that many if not all have a registration
confirmation email, as well as the packaging etc. That is if anyone wanted
to persue it. Again, not to do so is shameful!
|Amiga Inc. Plans to Shutdown Illegal Uses of Amiga IP : Comment 153 of 172||ANN.lu|
|Posted by Alkemyst on 31-Jul-2002 06:21 GMT|
|In reply to Comment 149 (Eva):|
hmm.. i dont know but
who in the MorphOS team have experience on OS programming before MorphOS ?
& anyway all that really matters is what the finished product is like.
look at windows experienced OS coders & still crap.
i see this stupid mentality all the time, only experienced ppl may apply.
but how do you become experienced if no one will give you the chance to become.
no one is trainning.
no one born experienced.
alot of ground breaking invention are thought up by ppl with no experience in inventing.
dyson had no experience in inventing hoovers before he made it & now he is number one.
anyway we aint got nothing to loose by give hyperion the chance as if the product is crap then we dont buy.
there is nothing stopping ppl from buying the Bplan mobo & Morphos if they feel Aone/Aos4 is crap when its out.
oh & some of the ppl doing MorphOS are ppl from Vapor & boy is V3 buggy as hell.
& time scale about head start V3 has had more time then IB or Aweb & yet the other to are fare less buggy.
just cos it a task can take one person a year to finish there is nothing to say that another could not do it in a month or even a week.
there are many factors.
my boss gave me a £4000 a year pay rise after only one year of working & told me that i can do things that ppl with 20 years experience would struggle with.
there are some ppl who spend all there time doing something & never become good at would they do, it happends & i have seen it.
i wonder when V3 will catch up with IB2.2 & Aweb with being stable.
|Amiga Inc. Plans to Shutdown Illegal Uses of Amiga IP : Comment 154 of 172||ANN.lu|
|Posted by Ole-Egil on 31-Jul-2002 06:44 GMT|
|In reply to Comment 137 (Joanna):|
"Wondering why you are shambling around here but not dare to comment status of A-one developments / testing on it's own Mailing list. "
Sorry, I fail to see your point. Just because I'm under NDA and can't tell you everything I know, I shouldn't be posting? And because I'm not subscribed to amigaone@yahoogroups (because of all the whining maggots, you included) I should definetly be posting on ann?
Nope, no can do. You will NOT succeed in your crusade to shut me up.
|Amiga Inc. Plans to Shutdown Illegal Uses of Amiga IP : Comment 155 of 172||ANN.lu|
|Posted by Joanna on 31-Jul-2002 08:14 GMT|
|In reply to Comment 154 (Ole-Egil):|
"And because I'm not subscribed to amigaone@yahoogroups (because of all the whining maggots, you included) I should definetly be posting on ann?"
Considering I'm the 'whining Maggot' that got Alan to publicly admit that there is problem on board release schedule and he even supported my right to ASK these questions, see beginning of this post copied to ann.lu... http://www.ann.lu/comments2.cgi?view=1027549074&category=news&start=1&104#message1
And that this 'whining Maggot' is among the few on that A-one list who actually understands reasons behind those delays, and no.. I'm not going to tell you (and others) here cause:
- You would not belive it anyhow cause I'm saying it
- That would not be right to do (I have some principles)
Furthermore, this 'whining Maggot' may be among the very few capable of designing this level of hardware you have ever talked to. I know there are some people making Pegasos (allthough I don't know them), but I really don't expect them to come to help Eyetech with this thing.
"Nope, no can do. You will NOT succeed in your crusade to shut me up."
No need to. You can keep writing where ever you want and whatever you vant. I just didn't realize you can't handle the stress coming from deadlines and NDA's.
I have to admit I'm really happy you don't work on customer service. Calling people maggots on public arena just cause they ask quations you don't know right answers is not proper way to handle things.
|Amiga Inc. Plans to Shutdown Illegal Uses of Amiga IP : Comment 156 of 172||ANN.lu|
|Posted by Ben Hermans/Hyperion on 31-Jul-2002 08:22 GMT|
|In reply to Comment 149 (Eva):|
Well, if you think somebody like Olaf Barthel or the other OS 3.5/3.9 developers have no experience developing OS modules, suit yourself.
It's a well known fact that Olaf is considered an AmigaOS guru and there is few if any who can match his knowledge of the AmigaOS.
And hey, guess what ... he even did a commercial game for the Amiga!
I guess that disqualifies him.
|Amiga Inc. Plans to Shutdown Illegal Uses of Amiga IP : Comment 157 of 172||ANN.lu|
|Posted by Jitter on 31-Jul-2002 09:20 GMT|
|In reply to Comment 127 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):|
Cool. Thanks for clearing that up Ben. I was just a bit upset to read the post from Elbox. Put yourself in our shoes. We've heard so much bull the last couple of years we don't know who to believe. As always actions mean more than words so forget about Elbox and develop/release OS4 before ASAP. Spare the comments, spare the interviews, spare the dates, just come back to us when OS4 is complete and out!
|Amiga Inc. Plans to Shutdown Illegal Uses of Amiga IP : Comment 158 of 172||ANN.lu|
|Posted by Ole-Egil on 31-Jul-2002 11:20 GMT|
|In reply to Comment 155 (Joanna):|
Hey, I've backed out of amigaone@yahoogroups.
I don't want to back out of ann and amiga.org as well. But if that would make a lot of people happy, why not? You are not a enough people, though. Not even Shawn is. And he's a crowd.
I agree that you have a right to ask why there are delays, but 1: I don't have an OBLIGATION to answer. A "no comment" will often hurt more then a straight answer, but but if you have agreed not to say anything, you have agreed not to say it. Simple as that. And 2: You DON'T have a right to question why I'm browsing ann.lu. Never. My boss could POSSIBLY object to me writing this comment while still at work, but YOU have NO saying as to what I do here. OK?
Oh, and btw. I'm a software/firmware/hardware developer, guess why I work with that instead of in support, eh?
|Amiga Inc. Plans to Shutdown Illegal Uses of Amiga IP : Comment 159 of 172||ANN.lu|
|Posted by Joanna on 31-Jul-2002 12:00 GMT|
|In reply to Comment 158 (Ole-Egil):|
" And 2: You DON'T have a right to question why I'm browsing ann.lu. Never. My boss could POSSIBLY object to me writing this comment while still at work, but YOU have NO saying as to what I do here. OK?"
Browse where you will.. But IMHO I have full right to ask why you are calling me Maggot on pubic discussion board like this. I think I have some right to comment your writings containing that magnitude of stupidity.
I don't care if your boss knows or not. It's not out of my $$$ what you do on work time. If I were your boss, reading that kind of posts would make me concerned about some potential issues lurking behind that kind of behaviour, but luckily I'm not so I have no need to worry.
"Oh, and btw. I'm a software/firmware/hardware developer, guess why I work with that instead of in support, eh?"
It's painlully obvious. Belive me on this one: There was no need you to point out those things you are not able to do as well as SW/FW/HW development.
|Amiga Inc. Plans to Shutdown Illegal Uses of Amiga IP : Comment 160 of 172||ANN.lu|
|Posted by Menthos on 31-Jul-2002 12:21 GMT|
|In reply to Comment 159 (Joanna):|
Bla bla bla... This discussion is stupid so please stop!
|Amiga Inc. Plans to Shutdown Illegal Uses of Amiga IP : Comment 161 of 172||ANN.lu|
|Posted by blue on 31-Jul-2002 16:00 GMT|
|In reply to Comment 135 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):|
Why do you need to insult people at all? There are surely better ways to make a point clear.
|Amiga Inc. Plans to Shutdown Illegal Uses of Amiga IP : Comment 162 of 172||ANN.lu|
|Posted by blue on 31-Jul-2002 16:05 GMT|
|In reply to Comment 127 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion):|
hehehe.. how about a rough estimate, when os4 is about to be finished, so elbox knows when they can start mass producing their shark.
|Amiga Inc. Plans to Shutdown Illegal Uses of Amiga IP : Comment 163 of 172||ANN.lu|
|Posted by Derf on 31-Jul-2002 18:18 GMT|
|In reply to Comment 159 (Joanna):|
Joanna, you dont seem to remember that *you started it*, and now Ole-Egil is *continuing it*, and now im *finishing it* ;-).
take it to email you two please.
|Amiga Inc. Plans to Shutdown Illegal Uses of Amiga IP : Comment 164 of 172||ANN.lu|
|Posted by DaveW on 01-Aug-2002 06:00 GMT|
|In reply to Comment 163 (Derf):|
Ah the same-old same-old on ANN. What a breath of rancid stale 1985 air this place is to come back to.
Same tit-for-tat crap, same "factz" and same boring old drivel. The news hasn't even changed ( delays, tit-for-tat and "factz".
The Amiga scene has become like a warped, cracked old 78 that just keeps going round and round and round and round. I hope they ship the new AmigaOnes ( if they ever make it out of the leaky back garden shed ) without internet connectivity so the new users don't have to see the bunch of hoary old whiners in the online community.
If the classic Amigas are the 78s, the AmigaONE is barely a CD. The time to sniff the coffee and invest in a mini-disc player or a DVD folks has come nigh.
What do you reckon? An AMD 2100 base unit for 300UKP vs an A1 600MHz for 40UKP vs a Playstation 2 with Linux developer kit ( keyboard, mouse, HD and Linux )?
|Amiga Inc. Plans to Shutdown Illegal Uses of Amiga IP : Comment 165 of 172||ANN.lu|
|Posted by Jim Forbes-Ritte (AGAfaster) on 01-Aug-2002 07:14 GMT|
|In reply to Comment 50 (Nicolas Sallin):|
yeah, He could've said 'Benjypoo' which would've been greeted with 'ooh bit personal there, aren't we ?' ;-)
|Amiga Inc. Plans to Shutdown Illegal Uses of Amiga IP : Comment 166 of 172||ANN.lu|
|Posted by Hurzn on 01-Aug-2002 07:49 GMT|
|In reply to Comment 164 (DaveW):|
The reason why so many desperate people can be found here is that the AmigaOS
still offers features and usabilitys Winblows will never have, but still no
new amigalike OS/machine is finished yet.
Having seen and used AmigaOS, one simply cant go to Winblows or Linux
and be satisfied, no matter how much stupid GHZ they cramp into them.
If it werent for this, of course we all would be using the GHz hype only.
Oh yes, I know Winblows, it's running left side of this amiga monitor.
|Amiga Inc. Plans to Shutdown Illegal Uses of Amiga IP : Comment 167 of 172||ANN.lu|
|Posted by DaveW on 01-Aug-2002 10:07 GMT|
|In reply to Comment 166 (Hurzn):|
Oh I agree but the time has come and I didnt advocate Windows you will note nor did I advocate
going away from AmigaOS.
Desperate .... yes we have all been desperate for YEARS now.
How much do you want the AmigaOS experience versus the hassle and the rotting wasteland that
is the Amiga "community"'s online avatar?
Ive been involved now for ... erm.... just over 15 years and only now has it got to me
sufficiently. What has changed? My patience is shorter ( after all the clock has been
ticking since 94 ) but the "community" is the worst I have seen it. The majority are
cretinous tedious little tw*ts with a major perspective problem.
|Amiga Inc. Plans to Shutdown Illegal Uses of Amiga IP : Comment 168 of 172||ANN.lu|
|Posted by Anonymous on 01-Aug-2002 11:54 GMT|
|In reply to Comment 99 (redrumloa):|
Including Amiga,Hyperion, and Eytech
|Amiga Inc. Plans to Shutdown Illegal Uses of Amiga IP : Comment 169 of 172||ANN.lu|
|Posted by DaveW on 01-Aug-2002 12:36 GMT|
|In reply to Comment 168 (Anonymous):|
So, tell me are you rock troll or a lamer troll?
Incisive libellous flamebait ... must be an anonymous coward on ANN.
|Amiga Inc. Plans to Shutdown Illegal Uses of Amiga IP : Comment 170 of 172||ANN.lu|
|Posted by Rexx on 01-Aug-2002 16:49 GMT|
|In reply to Comment 167 (DaveW):|
Don't give up on the Amiga over a handfull of asswipes, and don't judge
and/or condemn the whole remaining Amiga community based on what you
read here and elsewhere posted by a very small majority of whining babies
who have no lives and nothing better to do, but to bash everyone and everything!
Most of these dickheads don't even use Amigas anymore having abandoned it
long ago. They now use Windows or Linux, or Mac which they find so exciting they
have nothing better to do than to infest sites like this and the Amiga newsgroups
with their constant bullshit instead of actually doing anything on their computers!
They are pathetic, and again you should NOT judge the remaining Amiga users on
a handful of braindead losers! Most Amiga users are not like this, and sadly
most of them rarely post on sites like this or the newsgroups only lurking to
try to glean any new information, while trying to stay out of the constant barrage
Chill out...there are a great many sensible Amiga users left!
|Amiga Inc. Plans to Shutdown Illegal Uses of Amiga IP : Comment 171 of 172||ANN.lu|
|Posted by Daniel Miller on 01-Aug-2002 22:56 GMT|
|In reply to Comment 79 (Bill Hoggett):|
Bill Hoggett typed:
> Whether they have additional motivation is irrelevant. The
> only question is if anyone is doing anything illegal or
> not. It's hight time any crooks are cleaned out of the
> Amiga scene for good.
I hope you will still be saying say that if Bernd Meyer and Amiga Inc. are found to be stealing Harald Frank's IP.
|Amiga Inc. Plans to Shutdown Illegal Uses of Amiga IP : Comment 172 of 172||ANN.lu|
|Posted by DaveW on 02-Aug-2002 08:15 GMT|
|In reply to Comment 170 (Rexx):|
I seriously hope you are right. My Amiga kit still occupies pride of place on the desktop
but I no longer have any faith that this community will return to a healthy place to be.
I do not recall the last time I felt the excitement of anticipation about an Amiga product.