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[News] Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester!ANN.lu
Posted on 04-Aug-2002 20:43 GMT by Frodon185 comments
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The full announcement is available in the Read More.

Just a clarification to avoid misinterpretations:

For 1000 Euros you get a complete system, not only the motherboard (So you get: Motherboard + CPU + Memory + Harddrive + CD-Rom drive + Graphic Card + Tower + PSU) Announcing BETATESTER and Team Betatester!

The time has come for Thendic-France/bplan to start selling machines. We are not going to call it the Pegasos for now. We are going to call the pre-release version of the Pegasos with the pre-release version of MorphOS for PPC: BETATESTER. MorphOS may not be ready for regular computer users, but it is ready for developers. This coming weekend we will begin to sell the machines directly from Thendic-France. We will sell all 15 machines we take with us for the SLACH PARTY CONTEST in Bordeaux to people that agree to join «Team Betatester». We can take as many orders as there is interest. We have decided to do this because in two weeks we will begin to receive delivery of the first *1000* lot of BETATESTER mainboards. These will be completely configured and ready to sell to developers who join Team Betatester by Thendic-France. (Note: any mainboards not sold as BETATESTERS will be sold with firmware only to our Linux distributors).

You can purchase a BETATESTER for 1000 Euros (tax not included).

Team Betatester will be composed of people who do/agree to do the following:

1. Purchase a BETATESTER for 1000 Euros (tax not included)
2. Sign an NDA
3. Sign an Agreement not to sell the machine (we will purchase back all machines that need to be sold for any reason).
4. Provide a minimum of two bug reports per week (including negative reports) until the conclusion of the BETATESTER program (approximately 12 weeks).
5. Agree to test applications as required/time permits
6. Test new peripheral devices including the Thendic Smart Card Reader (for secure FTP access, online payment and loyalty programs), the DataPlay disc drive and the ComCam and associated viewing software.

Team Betatester members may also agree/become eligible to port applications to MorphOS for hire by Thendic-France/bplan.

In exchange, Team Betatester members will receive:

1. A MorphOS for PPC v.90 T-shirt
2. A free copy of the commercial release of MorphOS for PPC v1.0 when it is ready.
3. A discount on the Betatester G4 upgrade
4. Access to the Betatester FTP for updates, fixes, test applications and application releases.

and of course a BETATESTER with a TWO-YEAR WARRANTY for Hardware!
The SLACH PARTY CONTEST 15 BETATESTERS will be available for the contest from 12:00 Friday to 18:00 Saturday. As the Slach Party, the contest will be monitored and open during the entire 36 hours non-stop. Individuals/contestants may enter multiple times, but priority will be given to first time participants, second time participants, third time, etc. in that order. We will have a sign up sheet by hour for each of the 36-hour blocks. If a block of time is unassigned others may then fill-in/wait-list as machines become available.

The Contest is basically being held to:

1. Announce the beginning of Team Betatester
2. Develop a logo for the BETATESTER and Team Betatester.
3. Promote the SALES of the BETATESTER

The objective of the contest is to create the best «BETATESTER» logo using Candy Factory Pro on a BETATESTER (that is a pre-release Pegasos) in a one hour period. All submitted logos must include the word Betatester

The Judges for the Contest will be:

• Raquel Velasco
• Gerald Carda
• Rakesh Raghoebardayal
• Mike Bourgeoisat
• Johan Ronnblom


All the logos will be presented to the Judges Saturday evening at 1800. The First Prize award a BETATESTER -- will be presented the same night at 2000. All participants will be required to agree to our contest rules to be eligible. The rules are:

1. No outside data will be allowed to be loaded on the machine.
2. The time limit will be one hour.
3. Only the Candy Factory Pro can be used to create the logo.
4. All logos become the property of Thendic-France/bplan and can be used on our websites.
5. Contestants may enter more than once but never at the expense of another who has not had an opportunity.

All rules will be followed and anyone not doing so will be immediately eliminated at our discretion from the competition.

Another Contest -- we will also begin a contest where people can submit names for the eclipsis, the handheld version of the Pegasos (see "eclipsis" at www.thendic-france.com. If you submit a name you are eligible to purchase a MorphOS T-Shirt at a very reasonable price :)

and a bit more information!

Over the next couple/few months there are a series of shows that have been planned. Here is a list of what is planned today:

• 7-8 September, A-Expo in Tain l\'Hermitage (France)
• 14 September, BETATESTER I in Frankfurt
• 21-22 September, Pianeta 2002 in Empoli (Florence, Italy)
• 21-22 September, AmiGBG and GGS-Data Show (Gothenburg, Sweden)

During October, we will also set-up BETATESTER conferences in London and Moscow. Unlike the other events, the BETATESTER conferences will be our events. In all cases, we will divide up our team as required to support the events. All of us will go to the A-Expo. At the A-Expo we will also sell BETATESTERS to all that agree to the Team Betatester requirements.

When someone else hosts the show we will organize ourselves, as we will this weekend for the Slach Party. We will demonstrate BETATESTERS and hold a contest.

For the developer conferences we host, they will be one-day affairs and include a dinner we will hold that evening.
Admission to the full day program will be based on a pre-order/payment for a BETATESTER. Purchasers may pay at the door, but must agree to the Team Betatester requirements. No one who has not purchased a machine will be admitted.

A different MorphOS T-Shirt will be released at each event: v.90 Bordeaux, v.91 Tain l\'Hermitage, v.92 Frankfurt, v.93 Gothenburg/Empoli, etc. When the Pegasos is ready for commercial release we will have v1.0 (and we will offer for sale the entire collection).

If you have any questions you can email us at bbrv@thendic-france.com.

Best regards,

Raquel Velasco and Bill Buck
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 1 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 04-Aug-2002 18:49 GMT
YOu should really let them cover up their own dirty work , its really sad to see mos supporters clean up *their* faults .
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 2 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by z5 on 04-Aug-2002 18:51 GMT
so i guess the 1 september announcement for complete systems was false?
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 3 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by TheArrogantSarny on 04-Aug-2002 19:23 GMT
Hmmn! Lemme see. 2 bug reports a week for 12 weeks24 bugs. 24 bugs * 1000 boards = OUCH!!!
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 4 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Leif on 04-Aug-2002 19:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (TheArrogantSarny):
That is alot :)
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 5 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Frodon on 04-Aug-2002 19:28 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (TheArrogantSarny):
Hello,
"Hmmn! Lemme see. 2 bug reports a week for 12 weeks24 bugs. 24 bugs * 1000 boards = OUCH!!!"
No if you find no bugs, you just put in your report: "I've found no bugs" ;)
So some reports can report 0 bug. Also I'm sure that more than one betatester can found the same bug(s) :)
Regards
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 6 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by TheArrogantSarny on 04-Aug-2002 19:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Frodon):
Ah. Comment retracted. Misunderstood original posting.
Read it as you "Must report at least two bugs a week" and NOT "must make two reports about bugs every week".
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 7 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 04-Aug-2002 19:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (cOrpse):
Thanks god, it wasn't cleared up by a mos supporter but by one of *them*
:)
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 8 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by TheArrogantSarny on 04-Aug-2002 19:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 7 (David Scheibler):
HEY... Don't get used to it ;-)
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 9 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by smithy on 04-Aug-2002 19:40 GMT
All of these Amiga Inc luvvies are making a lot of noise! Is it because you can buy MorphOS today.. and OS4 is nowhere to be seen?
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 10 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Alan C on 04-Aug-2002 20:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (smithy):
I think according to the release you can't buy MOS today, but the pre-release.
I suspect the two software/hardware combinations will turn up at around the same time, the trouble is the potential market may now be too small for either to survive.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 11 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by amigammc on 04-Aug-2002 20:18 GMT
I laughed so hard reading this that I almost fell off the chair :-D
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 12 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by amigammc on 04-Aug-2002 20:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (smithy):
>Is it because you can buy MorphOS today..
LOL. Such a dreamer...
The press release itself says: "MorphOS may not be ready for regular computer users, but it is ready for developers" - I'm sure if Hyperion wanted it could give it to developers. Unless you're part of the Hyperion team (which I really doubt) try to post something based on facts. MorphOS is not ready for users, and that's the official voice.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 13 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Lando / Trinity on 04-Aug-2002 20:39 GMT
Err.. What was the point of pasting the whole page here? Couldnt you have posted a link like the previous guy did?
Actually, saying that, there isn't any point in this thread at all since all you've done is take the text from the link in the previous thread and paste it as a new thread..? Is this for people with non-functioning left mouse buttons or something? :)
Oh, and where does it tell you the specs for the system you're buying (or, indeed, that you're buying a full system at all)?
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 14 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Lando / Trinity on 04-Aug-2002 20:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Lando / Trinity):
Oh, I see.. they stuck the spec down the bottom (in German, which is extremely odd since the rest of the page is in English :)
Personally I'd prefer to choose my own components, from my choice of supplier, but each to his own...
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 15 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Leif on 04-Aug-2002 20:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Lando / Trinity):
Components needs drivers..
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 16 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Lando / Trinity on 04-Aug-2002 20:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Leif):
What.. hard drives, memory, CDROM drives, tower cases need specific drivers under MOS?
Strange...
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 17 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Leif on 04-Aug-2002 20:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Lando / Trinity):
Graphic cards, sound cards.
And as everything is "beta", pherhaps even the bios
have difficulties with other standard things..
Some Harddrives, cdroms etc could give problems..
..its possible! :)
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 18 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Leif on 04-Aug-2002 20:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (Leif):
What I mean is that its understandable why
they want a "Locked" hardware-set, to betatest on.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 19 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by catohagen on 04-Aug-2002 21:14 GMT
why submit this twice ? there was a link to the announcement in the last
submission...people aint stupid.....the link is visible!!!!
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 20 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Lando / Trinity on 04-Aug-2002 21:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Leif):
>What I mean is that its understandable why
>they want a "Locked" hardware-set, to betatest on.
Eh?
I don't think you (or Thendic) have quite grasped what Beta testing is about..
There is no point at all having 1000 beta testers all with the exact same hardware - you'll just get the same bug reported 1000 times.
In the real world, you need to test a diverse range of configurations or it's not proper testing... Unless the only hardware MOS ever intends to support is this exact configuration?
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 21 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by catohagen on 04-Aug-2002 21:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (smithy):
where can I buy it ? can i run mos on my blizzard PPC today ??
I read its not ready for normal users, but developers, and the betatesting will
take 12 weeks, thats 3 months.....august september oktober
If duplication of cd's and printing manuals and boxes are done in november,
ppl might buy mos in december ?
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 22 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 04-Aug-2002 21:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Lando / Trinity):
"There is no point at all having 1000 beta testers all with the exact same hardware - you'll just get the same bug reported 1000 times."
Unlike you I actually know people who get paid to do this stuff. Believe me, there are *plenty* of bugs to be found in any operating system without needing to buy everyone a different case, CPU fan, hard disk etc.
Sure, this sounds like a stupid deal to me (unpaid beta tester? I think you need a better hobby people), but I'm getting used to hearing about stupid deals. Practically everything out of Amiga Inc. since they began has been stupid deals or empty promises. Sometimes both!
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 23 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Daniel Miller on 04-Aug-2002 21:40 GMT
THIS IS GREAT THIS IS GREAT THIS IS GREAT THIS IS GREAT THIS IS GREAT THIS IS GREAT THIS IS GREAT THIS IS GREAT THIS IS GREAT THIS IS GREAT THIS IS GREAT THIS IS GREAT THIS IS GREAT THIS IS GREAT THIS IS GREAT THIS IS GREAT THIS IS GREAT!
Did I mention how great this is? Congratulations Raquel and Bill and bPlan crew and Frodon too! The future is now. The page is being turned!
THANKS!
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 24 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by amigammc on 04-Aug-2002 21:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Daniel Miller):
I don't get it. When Eyetech and Amiga did the exact the same thing you were one of the first to jump at the guns.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 25 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Daniel Miller on 04-Aug-2002 22:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (amigammc):
Don't think so, but whatever. Please stop trying to spoil things. Go be positive somewhere, Luca! Even if you are correct that I said something bad about Eyetech it is no excuse for you to do such a thing!
Go cheer on your mates at Microsoft/Amiga Inc.!
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 26 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by amigammc on 04-Aug-2002 22:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Daniel Miller):
>Don't think so, but whatever. Please stop trying to spoil things.
Me spoiling things? You must have smoked too many mushrooms
>Go be positive somewhere, Luca! Even if you are correct that I said something
>bad about Eyetech it is no excuse for you to do such a thing!
To do what? Ask you to be objective? You angrily critise your opponents then cheer loudly at your mates when they do the same. Who was talking about not believeing in stealing to a thief?
>Go cheer on your mates at Microsoft/Amiga Inc.!
I don't have mates at Microsoft. Disappointed?
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 27 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by NihilVor on 04-Aug-2002 22:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (Daniel Miller):
You people make me laugh! Product allegiances for something as elitist and a niche as small as MorphOs. Isn't the whole point of MorphOs to create the smallest and most elite group possible? :-) So why evangelize? Or does this all have to do with petty things like the personalities of the CEOs? Ask yourself why you really prefer one unreleased product over another. I see MorhpOs as unmarketable, terminal, and not future oriented (and claims of redundancy are not as easily dismissed as MorphOs might like), but I'll take a look at it when and if it becomes something worth looking at. Yet to troll and act all Ubu about something so silly...
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 28 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Daniel Miller on 04-Aug-2002 22:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 26 (amigammc):
Life is too short to go back and forth with you :) so you can take free shots at me the rest of the night if you choose, Luca. I stand by what I said to Bill H. and disagree about your characterization of whatever horrible thing I am supposed to have said about Eyetech and Amiga Inc.
You are not goading me again tonight. Take it light, and don't let the bad dogs bite!
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 29 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Daniel Miller on 04-Aug-2002 22:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (NihilVor):
NihilVor typed:
> product over another. I see MorhpOs as unmarketable, terminal, and
> not future oriented (and claims of redundancy are not as easily
> dismissed as MorphOs might like), but I'll take a look at it when
IMO you are wrong about all that, but you are missing the main point. It works. They are going to sell it. And IMHO it is going to sell.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 30 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by gz on 04-Aug-2002 23:01 GMT
I gotta say this is a bit too similar to the I am amiga club coupon crap for my taste :( Even it is slightly better in a way that you actually get what you pay for right away (hardware&os/software) The price is very high for a dev. machine. I'd have liked to buy just the mb and then add hd's and memory etc. myself so I wouldn't be paying huge amounts of extra for a third party to grab.
I guess I'll have to do the same as with the coupon and wait for a final release with half decent price tag.
Funny to see all amino freaks jumping up and down all jolly though. They probably needn't worry... I'm sure that AI can bring a similar 1000$ deal now that they have seen what they are arrogant enough to do in the other camp. If your computer is so important to you that your'e just waiting for a chance to slag at the other "faction" : GET A *REAL* LIFE! or grow a bigger dick (to somewhere else than on your forehead)
Needless to say that was only for the ppl who attack others because they have too narrow mind for disagreeing opinions. There's plenty of sane members in both MOS and AOS communities but sadly those are the ones who usually don't attend public forums and I can see why by judging some comments.
By my own definition I'm a sad troll too, which I'm sure plenty here are happily agreeing with.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 31 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Elektro on 05-Aug-2002 01:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (TheArrogantSarny):
> Read it as you "Must report at least two bugs a week"
That's easy... Just make up a few... :D :D
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 32 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by cheesegrate on 05-Aug-2002 02:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (gz):
>>. I'm sure that AI can bring a similar 1000$ deal now that they have seen what they are arrogant enough to do in the other camp.
yeah! betatest the amiga one and uae! I can't wait!
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 33 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Jürgen Lange on 05-Aug-2002 02:30 GMT
It is easy to bash Amiga Inc., bplan GmbH, Eyetech Ltd. or
Thendic-France for what they are doing or not doing.
But keep in mind that those companies are small companies. They need
money. And they need your money, because you are the ones forcing them
to sell computers, which will be sold in very small numbers.
Bad thing is that the commercial product 'Pegasos' will have another
delay. It's a bad thing because the world isn't waiting for the
AmigaOne or the Pegasos boards. And getting money is very hard in
these days.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 34 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by DaveW on 05-Aug-2002 04:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (smithy):
You show your true colours........
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 35 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by cheesegrate on 05-Aug-2002 05:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (DaveW):
>> You show your true colours...
what's that? inteligence?
Obv you lack those 'colours'
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 36 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by cheesegrate on 05-Aug-2002 05:27 GMT
What i want to know is
What are the features of mos aimed for sept? how does this compare to aos4?
What is missing in mos not to make it ready for prime time?
Why did they have to change the name of the pegasos to betatester? I liked the winged horse myself.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 37 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 05-Aug-2002 05:30 GMT
What has this got to do with the new Amiga? Its nice to move forward rather than being stuck in OS3.x land....
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 38 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by DaveW on 05-Aug-2002 05:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (cheesegrate):
Wow. Hilarious, made especially so by the fact that you make such a great judge.
No. Smithy has sat on the fence for so long and carefully not enlightened the world on his choices playing the outside observer without an agenda ( for credibility purposes ). Whilst most suspected it is now confirmed.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 39 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by cheesegrate on 05-Aug-2002 05:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (DaveW):
seeing reality is not having an agenda.
Fact is mos is far ahead of aos4 in development for the ppc platform
Face it.. (if you can get the wool out of your eyes that is;))
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 40 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 05-Aug-2002 05:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Daniel Miller):
"Did I mention how great this is? Congratulations Raquel and Bill and bPlan crew and Frodon too! The
future is now. The page is being turned!
THANKS!"
At least that's one happy bunny, frisking around and flipping its
ears. ;-)
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 41 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Daniel Miller on 05-Aug-2002 08:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 40 (Don Cox):
Well, a couple at least isn't it? ;) "One on-thousand, two one-thousand, three one-thousand..." Anyhow these ANN thread are not representative of anything larger, if they were, the world would have blown itself up already.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 42 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by DaveW on 05-Aug-2002 08:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (cheesegrate):
Theres no wool in my eyes. Ive left the platform totally ... well apart
from the A1200T on my desk....
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 43 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Eva on 05-Aug-2002 09:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (gz):
Oky, AmigaIndccan release at last an alpha machine with Linux.
On the other hand Thendic/Bplan can release a machine that was saw FUNCTIONAL one year ago WITH a real alternative OS like MorphOS is: something that can create INTEREST.
Surely if someone have to use PPC linux to see Kde3.0 he will buy a Powermac not a joke like AmigaOne.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 44 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Ian Shurmer on 05-Aug-2002 09:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 39 (cheesegrate):
How do you know this is the case?
Cheers, Ian
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 45 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by DaveW on 05-Aug-2002 09:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (Ian Shurmer):
He cant. The fact is the whole Amiga industry has survived yet another year on a mixture
of vapour anger and childishness.
What do you reckon to these as realistic figures:
1994 - 400,000 Amiga users active
1995 - 200,000 Amiga users active
1996 - 90,000 Amiga users active
1997 - 45,000 Amiga users active
1998 - 22,000 Amiga users active
1999 - 11,000 Amiga users active
2000 - 6,000 Amiga users active
2001 - 3,000 Amiga users active
2002 - 1,500 Amiga users active
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 46 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Samface on 05-Aug-2002 09:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (Eva):
"On the other hand Thendic/Bplan can release a machine that was saw FUNCTIONAL one year ago"
Yes, functioning one year ago and still not available to the ordinary users.
"WITH a real alternative OS like MorphOS is:"
Alternative OS? No. Sure, it's running it's own kernel.
But ontop of that, through emulation, it's running the very same AmigaOS3.x as we've always used. It runs AmigaOS3.x on PPC pretty much like Amithlon does on x86. I know, much work has been accomplished since the public beta/alpha version, but that's still not available to the ordinary users.
"something that can create INTEREST."
To a minority of the minority, if you ask me. Face it, the Amiga market is way too small for any kind of profitable business today, the MorphOS/Pegasos market even less. Just thinking of the fact that they believe they can sell a thousand developer boards makes me laugh out loud. Get real.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 47 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Martin Wollert on 05-Aug-2002 09:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 45 (DaveW):
your figures are nonsens in germany we have over 6000 active amiga users
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 48 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Samface on 05-Aug-2002 09:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 47 (Martin Wollert):
And these facts are based on...?
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 49 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by DaveW on 05-Aug-2002 10:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (Samface):
And such a brusque response to something that was clearly an estimate, looks like
another t*rd to add to the ignore list.
Thendic/Bplan announce the BETATESTER and Team Betatester! : Comment 50 of 185ANN.lu
Posted by Samface on 05-Aug-2002 10:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 49 (DaveW):
No, that was far from an obvious estimate. Please note how the sentence begins with "Your figures are nonsense..." which is claiming that you *know* better.
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