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Posted on 05-Aug-2002 22:06 GMT by Teemu I. Yliselä20 comments
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Results from this years Assembly party are in. Read them here. There were no Amiga entries in the demo compo this time to "defend" MatureFurk's victory from last year (AFAIK). However, Amiga still ruled the 4k intros with humus3 by Exploder/PUSH Entertainment taking the first spot by a clear margin. Also, in the 64k intro compo, Future visions by Potion came in second. All the releases from the party can be downloaded here.
Assembly 2002 : Comment 1 of 20ANN.lu
Posted by André Siegel on 06-Aug-2002 02:54 GMT
No Amiga entries in the demo compo? Hmm... This is bad, y'know.
Assembly 2002 : Comment 2 of 20ANN.lu
Posted by kriz on 06-Aug-2002 08:23 GMT
nah, i wouldnt worry assembly is a big frag fest now ...
Assembly 2002 : Comment 3 of 20ANN.lu
Posted by Peter Gordon on 06-Aug-2002 08:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (André Siegel):
Don't worry about it. Mekka is where the Amiga democoders come out of the woodwork...
Assembly 2002 : Comment 4 of 20ANN.lu
Posted by Janne Sirén on 06-Aug-2002 08:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 2 (kriz):
Well, consdering the high quality and large amount of competition entries the event manages to attract from year to year, it is hardly just a "frag fest".
Respect to the organizers for putting up such a diverse event that keeps the demoscene alive with new people tuning in every year.
Assembly 2002 : Comment 5 of 20ANN.lu
Posted by Ryu on 06-Aug-2002 09:07 GMT
is it true the 64kb Potion into archive is virused?
Assembly 2002 : Comment 6 of 20ANN.lu
Posted by cahva on 06-Aug-2002 09:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Ryu):
I heard the delfina version has a virus in it.
Assembly 2002 : Comment 7 of 20ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 06-Aug-2002 09:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (André Siegel):
> No Amiga entries in the demo compo? Hmm... This is bad, y'know
Oh No! The world is ending!
Assembly 2002 : Comment 8 of 20ANN.lu
Posted by JrPacman on 06-Aug-2002 11:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Ryu):
>is it true the 64kb Potion into archive is virused?
According to 2 mates of mine it contains the Fungus/LSD virus. Haven't tried/tested
it myself.
Assembly 2002 : Comment 9 of 20ANN.lu
Posted by gz on 06-Aug-2002 15:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (Janne Sirén):
>>it is hardly just a "frag fest".
Actually even it is a big MEDIA event in Finland, I kinda have to agree with the term "frag fest" I don't know what else to call it when there's an enourmous hall filled with people and 90% just playing newest games on lan networks and on big screens. It used to be sooo much different in the heydays of assembly back in the early nineties. That's when there was a sense of mad innovation and old friends (and enemies ;) gathering up to code, to have fun and to booze properly together :)
Assembly 93 was the last assembly that had the true amiga spirit and sensation of not being just geeks drinking coca cola and playing latest games as it is today.
>>Respect to the organizers for putting up such a diverse event that keeps the demoscene alive with new people tuning in every year.
Yeah, Respects for fucking it all up ;) What they have done though, is making it a very formidable event in the eyes of media and sponsors. I guess it all depends of what you are looking for in a scene party. I personally can play games and drink coka cola quite enough at home. And when I'm going to a scene party I wannna have fun, drink with friends and get crazy if only just once a year.
Assembly 2002 : Comment 10 of 20ANN.lu
Posted by Erik Nylund on 06-Aug-2002 15:41 GMT
I agree that the place is crowded with 14-15 year old kids playing counter-strike, but again only things posted here are the "negative" aspects.
I really liked the seminars - especially with Rob Hubbard - the 24h compos announced at the end of some, and the good quality of the 64k, flash, wild demos and - especially - mobile demos. And the Machinae Supremacy concert rocked!
It is true, that if you look at it in a conservative way, Assembly is no more
a demoparty alone, but it cannot be avoided when a party gets as big as this.
If you want to see some pictures from the event, have a look at mine:
http://assembly.twistedsister.net
Cheers!
Assembly 2002 : Comment 11 of 20ANN.lu
Posted by gz on 06-Aug-2002 16:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (Erik Nylund):
I may have been a bit harsh with my wording towards assembly but this is due to the fact that I grew up in a scene that was totally non commercial and I've always missed that "underground" spirit that assembly used to have when I was 17-18.
Assembly today is still a great way to see high quality demo and intro compo's etc. Of course for those such as myself, who like it less commercial can attend other, smaller parties. It's just that assembly was BIG even when it wasn't yet being sponsored by big companies and commercial revenue.
Assembly 2002 : Comment 12 of 20ANN.lu
Posted by Balder Mørk on 06-Aug-2002 19:42 GMT
Seriously, calling Assembly a "fragfest" is totally out of place. Yes, it's a big party, and yes, there are a lot of gamers there. However, having an "oldskool" ticket myself, I enjoyed the good scene atmosphere in the oldskool VIP area, as well as hanging out with fellow sceners at Boozembly. All in all, I think it's the best party of this size I've been to.
Balder Mørk
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Assembly 2002 : Comment 13 of 20ANN.lu
Posted by Mika Hanhijärvi on 06-Aug-2002 21:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (gz):
Well I was there and I can tell you it was not just a "frag fest". Sure people played games. What else can you expect when assembly is almost 4 days long ? And yes there was lot's of younger guys who have no experience about oldschool demo scene. Many of those guys sure did play games in assembly. BUT there was also lot's of compos and lot's of quite high quality entries. So there was lot's of people interested about oldschool demo scene too. Ofcourse Assembly is big, it has lot's of media attention and it attracts younger guys too. But demoscene needs those younger guys too otherwise it will die sooner or later. You need to get younger guys interested. I think there is no many better ways to do it. What is a good way to do if not assembly way. Assembly organizers say that all people are welcome to come and see what demo scene is all about. It does not matter if you are experienced democoder od just rookie who knows nothing about demos. Assembly organizers say that you can come and play games AND see what demos are all about. Maybe some of the gamers will then get interested and start lernig how to makes demos, intros, music raytrace gfx etc. One of the rules in Assembly is that all are welcome, no matter what you interests are. You just need to understand all people are not interested about same things.
Assembly 2002 : Comment 14 of 20ANN.lu
Posted by jPV on 06-Aug-2002 21:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Ryu):
Potion's Future Visions intro had Fungus/LSD virus (http://home4.inet.tele.dk/vht-dk//amiga/desc/txt/fungus.htm) in delfina version of it. It can be easily removed with VirusZ or any other virus killer. The virus was obtained from infected compo machine and got spreaded that way. I have put cleaned up version on my demopage (http://jpv.wmhost.com/releases)... shame on me that I forgot to check the archive earlier and had infected version on there :/
Anyway, it's damn good intro and all PPC-users should check it out. It got second position on combined (PC+Amiga) 64k intro compo. There's also video of it at ftp://ftp.asmparty.net/pub/asm/combined64Kintro/future fisiobn.wmv . Also the 68k 4k-intros kicked some pc intros' ass, Amiga intros came 1st, 3rd and 6th out of 13 intros. You'll better check them out too :) Wild compo winner was also very nice and had some Amiga stuff in it. As well as flash compo winner by Amiga demogroup RNO :) Both are available as wmv/mpeg in mentioned ftp site.
Assembly 2002 : Comment 15 of 20ANN.lu
Posted by Janne Sirén on 07-Aug-2002 05:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Mika Hanhijärvi):
>One of the rules in Assembly is that all are welcome, no matter what you
>interests are. You just need to understand all people are not interested about
>same things.
Now there's something for the Amiga community to consider as well, eh? :-)
Assembly 2002 : Comment 16 of 20ANN.lu
Posted by Ole-Egil on 07-Aug-2002 09:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 15 (Janne Sirén):
>>One of the rules in Assembly is that all are welcome, no matter what you
>>interests are. You just need to understand all people are not interested about
>>same things.
>Now there's something for the Amiga community to consider as well, eh? :-)
You mean like letting girls in to our community and stuff? Yuck ;-)
Seriously, though: Nice try. I have a different opinion: Right now I think we would all be better off with a clean break. My parents broke up last year, and all I had to say was "congratulations". Some situations require a clean break while everyone are still friends. Might be too late, though. In which case we're all frelled.
Assembly 2002 : Comment 17 of 20ANN.lu
Posted by gz on 07-Aug-2002 17:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (Mika Hanhijärvi):
>>Well I was there and I can tell you it was not just a "frag fest".
Ok, clarification time 4 me :)
First of all I didn't say it was ALL a fragfest. I also said that it has GREAT compos and that ofcourse there are oldskool'erz hanging in there. All I meant with my preliminary post was that in some way I kinda agreed with the dude calling it a frag fest, but not totally. You can't compare assembly 2002 to say assembly 92-23, and they shouldn't even be compared as assembly and the time along with world has changed. So to rephrase all I mean't was that I kinda agreed with him to some lenghts that the feeling of assembly has suffered (or changed whatever term you prefer to call it with) and that I often miss that particular feeling.
>>And yes there was lot's of younger guys who have no experience about oldschool demo scene.
And of course there were and OFCOURSE they are welcome. Where on earth did I say or give the false impression that they wouldn't be?!?
EVERYONE have ALWAYS been welcome to assembly even in the old days. That hasn't changed and that's the way it should be.
Assembly 2002 : Comment 18 of 20ANN.lu
Posted by Jon on 10-Aug-2002 11:51 GMT
That Humus3 was something unbeliable! At least I haven't seen anything like that ever before..
Why, why, why those Potion production don't run on Voodoos? I get a WOS exception always.
Assembly 2002 : Comment 19 of 20ANN.lu
Posted by Jon on 10-Aug-2002 11:52 GMT
And that wild compo winner "The Way Out" (100MB mpeg..) had also some very nice Amiga and Commodore flashes ;)
Assembly 2002 : Comment 20 of 20ANN.lu
Posted by pVC on 12-Aug-2002 17:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Jon):
Then you haven't seen the Humus1 and 2 or dozen of other Exploder/Push intros during the years ;) Although they may look bit same on most cases, they still got improved and some new effects too and code-wise they're still quite unbelievable :) Just can't figure out how they make so much stuff fit in only 4 kilobytes... music and everything. And they're so smooth too. You should check 4k intros from others too.. like from Ephidrena.. bier4k for example is just great.
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