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Posted on 08-Aug-2002 08:09 GMT by A.Scott Pringle53 comments
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here are some pics of Bernie demoing Xine and running 5 monitors simultaneously on "Berniethlon" v2.
http://maug.org.au/amithlonpics.html
Pictures courtesy of Melbourne Amiga User Group.
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 1 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Budda on 08-Aug-2002 06:48 GMT
That's impressive stuff!
What's Xine?
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 2 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Ben on 08-Aug-2002 06:52 GMT
lol - this is so cool - the Classic Amiga is "dead" but it still rocks! :)
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 3 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Aug-2002 07:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Budda):
Xine is a media player (AVI,MPG, etc) for Linux AFAIK
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 4 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by A.Scott Pringle on 08-Aug-2002 07:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Budda):
Xine is a multimedia player, we watched 2 DVD's at the same time and also tried Quake and a DVD and shapshifter and a DVD. All with no slowdown. We had some power leftover to playback MP3s. We were also able to send each App to a different screen which was very nice, if a little confusing at first. Hows that for AmigaOS showing how to make effective use of the hardware.
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 5 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Budda on 08-Aug-2002 07:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (A.Scott Pringle):
Neat. Is the multiple screen.card support only with Matrox cards (for now) ?
So Xine is the major native app that Bernie was hinting at recently on the mailing list... ahhhhhhh. nice.
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 6 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by X on 08-Aug-2002 07:37 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Budda):
That's cool!
I thought the major new app was that scanner software... but then again,
this has already be released...
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 7 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by A.Scott Pringle on 08-Aug-2002 07:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (Budda):
yes, only with Matrox...for now 8)
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 8 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 08-Aug-2002 07:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (Budda):
http://xine.sourceforge.net/
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 9 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 08-Aug-2002 07:57 GMT
On a related topic, is there any news of the PCI card for using Amiga
floppies and mice with Amithlon?
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 10 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by A.Scott Pringle on 08-Aug-2002 08:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Don Cox):
Yes this is progressing well. The initial relase will no longer be a PCI based solution but an inline floppy interface that goes between the floppy controller on the motherboard and the floppy drive(either end). This will not feature a mouse or joystick port. Perhaps at a later stage. A site has been started here http://dfx.boing.net , this should be ready in the very near future. Yet another piece of Amiga kit to come from Melbourne, like Thylacine and "Berniethlon". 8)
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 11 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 08-Aug-2002 08:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 10 (A.Scott Pringle):
That`s very disappointing. I don't need a floppy interface as I have
a Catweasel, but I am desperate for a mouse and joystick interface so
that I can use the Marconi trackball.
I was prepared to pay quite a high price for this.
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 12 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 08-Aug-2002 08:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Don Cox):
Well, it's still better than nothing. The Catweasel's all very well, but it requires that darn ISA slot, and it's going to be tough finding motherboards which have one of those soon.
I'll be buying one of these when it's ready. :)
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 13 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by A.Scott Pringle on 08-Aug-2002 08:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Don Cox):
We may still release this as a PCI card with the mouse and joystick ports but not in the initial release of the product.
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 14 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Björn Hagström on 08-Aug-2002 09:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (A.Scott Pringle):
How about a digital joystick to USB adapter ? :)
/Björn
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 15 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 08-Aug-2002 09:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (A.Scott Pringle):
Multiple monitors are very nice. I have a 21" Dell Trinitron with a 19" monitor on each side. Once you have gotten used to that extended desktop/workbench/whatever, you will never go back to only use a single monitor, I can promise you that!
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Posted by darklite on 08-Aug-2002 09:24 GMT
Very nice.
A multi-monitor setup musty be so much better in AmigaOS. It's a joke in Windows as there's no concept of screens.
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 17 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 08-Aug-2002 10:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (darklite):
Well yes, screens on separate displays must be nice, but so is also a desktop that extends over multiple monitors. I can assure you that it's isn't bad at all to be able to just drag windows across different monitors either. Very flexible and easy to deal with!
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 18 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by darklite on 08-Aug-2002 10:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (takemehomegrandma):
>Well yes, screens on separate displays must be nice, but so is also a desktop that extends over multiple monitors. I can assure you that it's isn't
>bad at all to be able to just drag windows across different monitors either. Very flexible and easy to deal with!
Yes, the Windows DualView might be nice for desktop use, but as soon as you start running full-screen appliactions like video display or games, it becomes a real pain. For example, you can't have WMP play a video fullscreen on one monitor without doing other stuff on the other monitor, as WMP will revert back to a window. Games are even worse. This would be so much better in AmigaOS, as applications are aware of the concept of screens and don't care what happens on another screen. Would be nice if somebody made a hack to allow moving windows between public screens though :)
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 19 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 08-Aug-2002 10:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Björn Hagström):
The Amiga joystick port is both analog and digital. That makes it
ideal for simple experimental setups and installations, using just
switches and potentiometers.
The parallel port can be used for switches, but not for analog
settings - and on an Amiga, the parallel port is connected to the very
sensitive CIA chips, so it's risky to experiment with.
For example, you can set up an Amiga with a photo of a face on the
screen, so that when somebody approaches it (detected by a mat with a
switch in it), the face switches to an animation and says "Good
morning". An A600 is small enough to hide in a plinth, so no computer
is visible.
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 20 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Cluke on 08-Aug-2002 10:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (darklite):
Well, MUI apps can already be moved between screens, though it's not as simple as it could be (requires firing up MUI prefs each time).
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 21 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 08-Aug-2002 10:58 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Cluke):
There's an Amiga program called SMPTEout (generates time codes) which
runs in a small window which can be moved from screen to screen by
hitting Right-Amiga-N. So it can be done.
An alternative approach is Screen In Window (SIW2.lha on Aminet) which
gives access to one screen from another.
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 22 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Ole-Egil on 08-Aug-2002 12:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (takemehomegrandma):
"Well yes, screens on separate displays must be nice, but so is also a desktop that extends over multiple monitors. I can assure you that it's isn't bad at all to be able to just drag windows across different monitors either. Very flexible and easy to deal with!"
Wouldn't want that with Bernies setup in these pics, though. Instant need of medical care, I would say ;-)
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 23 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Ole-Egil on 08-Aug-2002 12:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 21 (Don Cox):
Well, it's no big deal, is it? Just save the state of the gui, close down the window and reopen it with a different screen pointer. But it's not widely implemented. If someone was to make a neat way of doing it for a general application and then post a website somewhere I think more people would be willing to implement it. But that's what I always say, right?
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 24 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by TBone on 08-Aug-2002 13:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (Don Cox):
Quote="That`s very disappointing. I don't need a floppy interface as I have
a Catweasel, but I am desperate for a mouse and joystick interface so
that I can use the Marconi trackball. "
This, I'm sure could have been used in an AmigaOne with drivers, or even a pegasos. neat idea.
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 25 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Aug-2002 14:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (takemehomegrandma):
The ideal trick is to be able to treat additional displays as *either* more contiguous desktop space or completely separate framebuffers, and switch between these states on the fly. The situation on AmigaOS today resembles that on X systems a few years back, where new displays can be attached, and you can send applications to a display, but there is no sense of a contiguous desktop when you place two monitors next to one another. MacOS, Windows and these days even X learned to join displays so that they acted as a single desktop, with a hidden "seam" that prevents stupid stuff like e.g. dialog boxes split across two monitors, but they lose the ability to detach a display and run fullscreen applications on it temporarily without affecting the desktop. I may be wrong, but I think that if AmigaOS were able to do this correctly, on the fly, and find a comfortable solution for handling keyboard / mouse focus, then it would be a Unique Selling Point.
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 26 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Nicolas Sallin on 08-Aug-2002 14:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 20 (Cluke):
MUI3.9 has a nice menu to let you choose the screen you want to move
the application on.
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 27 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Chris Roccati on 08-Aug-2002 14:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 14 (Björn Hagström):
A digital (Amiga-Like) joystick interface for the USB port is VERY
simple to implement using the cypress low-speed usb microcontrollers:
no more than a pagefull of microcontroller code. If anyone is
interested, you're welcome to contact me via email.
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 28 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by NameME on 08-Aug-2002 14:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 27 (Chris Roccati):
I see no point on all of this...
What's the value of something we cannot have... Bernithlon is only running on Bernie's house, not mine.
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 29 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Kronos on 08-Aug-2002 14:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (NameME):
The multihead-feature does work on an updated H&P-Amithlon, and maybe Xine too.
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 30 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by .john on 08-Aug-2002 14:58 GMT
Don't wanna bitch, but why Xine ? MPlayer is much more capable.
And wehre do I get such special Aminthlon software ?
And wouzldn't it be nice if I could use my soundcard, that has kernel support since over a year ?
.john
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Posted by Bill Hoggett on 08-Aug-2002 15:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (.john):
@.john
"Don't wanna bitch, but why Xine ? MPlayer is much more capable."
I don't know the answer to that, but it might be that Xine is easier to port without having a dependency on X, or it might simply be Bernie's favourite of the two.
"And wehre do I get such special Aminthlon software ?"
It's not finished yet, which is why this thread is about a demo, not a release. When it's finished it will be released - it's free software after all.
"And wouzldn't it be nice if I could use my soundcard, that has kernel support since over a year ?"
Then you need to have your fingers crossed that "Berniethlon" can be released soon, because your card is probably supported. Amithlon doesn't care about kernel support as far as the sound cards go. It needs special AmigaOS drivers written for each card and judging by the released software, not much progress has been made there.
@NameME
"What's the value of something we cannot have... Bernithlon is only running on Bernie's house, not mine."
The demo was done on "Berniethlon", but no one said it won't run on Amithlon too. I believe the latest update makes this possible, but I'm sure Bernie will confirm it when he's ready to release.
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 32 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Bernd Meyer on 08-Aug-2002 16:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 28 (NameME):
The point is that it is running _at all_. And that I can take it to the local (*cough* 50km each way) user group meeting, start it up, and let people play with it. It exists, and it works.
Has any user group been able to play around with OS 4.0? Has any user group been able to play around with MorphOS? Has any user group been able to play around with whatever AmigaOS XL stuff H&P has been betatesting under NDA for the last 3+ months? I don't think so....
It's incredibly frustrating --- I have a finished, working product here that is being held back by stupid politics and the actions of people who, it seems, have neither honour nor scruples. Can you blame me for wanting to show my work to at least some people?
Oh, and you *can* use multiple monitors (the just released replacement gfx driver for Amithlon 1.0.1 supports that), and yes, the Xine hack will also work on 1.0.1. It will take a loooong time to load, but it will work. I made sure of that.
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 33 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Bernd Meyer on 08-Aug-2002 16:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (.john):
> Don't wanna bitch, but why Xine ? MPlayer is much more capable.
Xine's architecture is extremely suited to this sort of "port" (I'd usually call it "hack" myself...).
Xine has a strict separation of frontend and backend. Xine also has well-defined plugin interfaces for data input and video/audio output.
And if that isn't enough --- Xine is what I use to watch my DVDs, MPlayer isn't. Simple as that.
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 34 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Bernd Meyer on 08-Aug-2002 16:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (.john):
> And wouzldn't it be nice if I could use my soundcard, that has kernel
> support since over a year ?
Yeah, that would be nice. I like my SB Live! as much as the next guy.
Guess what --- I have a driver on my hard disk, ready to go. It would make your card work, if linux supports it.
However, that driver, due to its heritage, will be under the GPL. And you may understand that until "Berniethlon" actually hits the market, I am extremely reluctant to put out any drivers which a certain ex-distributor could distribute from their website. Which is the case with GPL'ed drivers.
Trust me, I hate doing this. But there is so much shit happening at the moment which I really hate, this is just one tiny aspect of it.
I can make you this promise: Within a week of "Berniethlon" (whatever its eventual name) being available for download, you will have both generic sound drivers and generic network drivers for 1.0.1. But, alas, not before then.
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 35 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 08-Aug-2002 16:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (Bernd Meyer):
"It's incredibly frustrating --- I have a finished, working product here that is being held back by stupid
politics and the actions of people who, it seems, have neither honour
nor scruples. "
It's incredibly frustrating for all of us. What is so strange is that
H&P were always great supporters of the Amiga, had a strong
anti-piracy campaign, and so on. Now they are selling pirate software
and blocking the sale of legal software.
This is not some grubby liitle pirate in his bedroom, but one of the
most respected Amiga companies. What went wrong?
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 36 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by darklite on 08-Aug-2002 16:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (Bernd Meyer):
>Yeah, that would be nice. I like my SB Live! as much as the next guy.
>Guess what --- I have a driver on my hard disk, ready to go. It would make your card work, if linux supports it.
>However, that driver, due to its heritage, will be under the GPL. And you may understand that until "Berniethlon" actually hits the market, I am >extremely reluctant to put out any drivers which a certain ex-distributor could distribute from their website. Which is the case with GPL'ed >drivers.
>Trust me, I hate doing this. But there is so much shit happening at the moment which I really hate, this is just one tiny aspect of it.
>I can make you this promise: Within a week of "Berniethlon" (whatever its eventual name) being available for download, you will have both generic >sound drivers and generic network drivers for 1.0.1. But, alas, not before then.
Do those by any chance include an RTL driver? :)
I suppose out of the question mailing you personally in order to get a hold of these drivers? Personally, I have been waiting for these for a *very long* time, basically since I bought Amithlon - and haven't had any use of Amithlon in the meantime :/
Good luck to you, Bernie
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Posted by darklite on 08-Aug-2002 17:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 36 (darklite):
that's supposed to be RTL8139, damn linux
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 38 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Bill Hoggett on 08-Aug-2002 17:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (darklite):
I can answer that one for Bernie: Yes, the supported NICs include the RTL-8139, tried and tested.
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 39 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by darklite on 08-Aug-2002 17:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (Bill Hoggett):
>can answer that one for Bernie: Yes, the supported NICs include the RTL-8139, tried and tested.
Maybe I can sign an NDA and promise I will not pass these drivers on to H&P to be allowed to use them?
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 40 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by .john on 08-Aug-2002 19:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 33 (Bernd Meyer):
>> Don't wanna bitch, but why Xine ? MPlayer is much more capable.
>Xine's architecture is extremely suited to this sort of "port" (I'd usually call it "hack" myself...).
>Xine has a strict separation of frontend and backend. Xine also has well-defined plugin interfaces for data input and video/audio output.
>And if that isn't enough --- Xine is what I use to watch my DVDs, MPlayer isn't. Simple as that.
I see. Then, I remember even havin been told by a guy who is working on a hungarian Linux distro,
that MPlayer's source is a big pile of *** ;-)
I have read your post and understood and agree to all conditions ;-)
However, it was commented, that MPlayer might rely on X.
I am no guru, but I know, that MPlayer has a lot of output devices, so it
has simple fbdev as well as SDL, for which, AFAIK, there is an Amiga port even.
P.S. Will Amithlon 2.0 really be named Berniethlon ?
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 41 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by .john on 08-Aug-2002 19:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (Bernd Meyer):
>> And wouzldn't it be nice if I could use my soundcard, that has kernel
>> support since over a year ?
> Yeah, that would be nice. I like my SB Live! as much as the next guy.
> Guess what --- I have a driver on my hard disk, ready to go.
> It would make your card work, if linux supports it.
WOW ! That is brilliant news. Heh ! It seems I even got some Ex-Amiga/now Linux guy interested in Amithlon v2.
He always asks if I have a copy handy. I will tell him, where to get *his* copy,
as soon you have the registration procedere online ;-)
I am very very glad you could develop such a universal driver. I do not want to
ask for much details, but how is things now, that the drivers seem to be taken
out of kernel and put into the ALSA tree. supposibaly by external or compile-time
modules ?
I have a Hercules GameTheater XP, btw, which has a double Crystal CS4680 (AFAIR)
codec (and a nice breakoutbox, too ;-))
The driver mod is called CS46XX or so.
Oh, and having your finger I reach for your hand ;-)
What about this: I have a Hauppauge WinTV-DVB-s (digital, DVB, not Brooktree).
There is a 3rd party driver suite for it for Linux. It is to be loaded as
external module. Well, I guess this would be a big project, but then I can only
guess. Maybe it can be done to use generic Linux drivers and just have some easy
wrappers for AmigaOS around them ?
> However, that driver, due to its heritage, will be under the GPL.
> And you may understand that until "Berniethlon" actually hits the market,
> I am extremely reluctant to put out any drivers which a certain ex-distributor
> could distribute from their website. Which is the case with GPL'ed drivers.
> Trust me, I hate doing this. But there is so much shit happening at the moment
> which I really hate, this is just one tiny aspect of it.
I fully understand.
> I can make you this promise: Within a week of "Berniethlon" (whatever its eventual name)
> being available for download, you will have both generic sound drivers and
> generic network drivers for 1.0.1. But, alas, not before then.
You would not even have to. Amithlon without sound is sad, but better than no Amiga
at all. I have a networked A4000/060,SCSI,83MB,MFC-III,X-Surf,CDROM,DDS2,6GB-HDD.
It does not work. Well, it works with AGA, but who needs that ? The VCision64 seems to
be broken, so I am GLAD I can use Amithlon !!!
.john
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 42 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by .john on 08-Aug-2002 19:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (Don Cox):
>This is not some grubby liitle pirate in his bedroom, but one of the
>most respected Amiga companies. What went wrong?
What ? Maybe the fact it got respected.
I remember, that there has been many trouble with H&P going on many times.
I do not respect them since I know of the story with AmiTCP.
Most told the critics, they would be trolls.
Well, here you have it. As it seems...
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 43 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Budda on 08-Aug-2002 21:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (Don Cox):
For people wanting to connect their Amiga digital joysticks to the PC
for use with AMithlon, check out this little hardware project:
http://www.camber.demon.co.uk/joy/
Now all we need is a lowlevel.library or some patch to route the PC
soundcards game port to AmigaOS!
Or is there something already done?
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 44 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 08-Aug-2002 22:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (Don Cox):
"This is not some grubby liitle pirate in his bedroom, but one of the
most respected Amiga companies. What went wrong?"
There is no longer any significant difference. Lying, cheating and stealing is the way to survive when honest men go broke. So, you might see it as a defining moment. As the market shrinks - companies either choose to abandon their Amiga religion, and sell stuff mostly for the PC and Mac OR they take a few liberties, over-charge a customer, sell reconditioned goods as new, start making their way down the slippery slope.
There are a few very talented individuals working on the Amiga, none of whom can claim the Amiga pays them a decent wage. Bernie is one of those individuals, and to be brutally honest I think they're wasting their time. It's like those photos of a beautiful girl standing in the sunlight in a slum, and you know that she's never going to get out of there alive :(
BTW Bernie's obfuscated C entry is very cool, check it out. A friend of mine won the obfuscated Perl contest once, but obfuscating C is much more of an art form, and Bernie's entry does something almost useful.
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 45 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Seehund on 08-Aug-2002 22:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 40 (.john):
> Then, I remember even havin been told by a guy who is working on a hungarian
> Linux distro, that MPlayer's source is a big pile of *** ;-)
Just chiming in to say why I don't use MPlayer: Because I never could get it to work properly, and because of the developers.
First off they have some strange issues with GCC 2.96, as shipped with the most common Linux distros out there - RedHat 7.x. This even has a section of its own in mplayer's "documentation". In early versions of mplayer the configure script exited with a childish message when it detected GCC 2.96, this later changed to allow config/compiling if the user entered some childish passphrase like "I'm a redhat lamer" or whatever it was. Anyway, after compiling successfully it wouldn't work anyway, and it naturally was no different after upgrading GCC to 3.x either. After seeing the replies, filled with broken English mostly using four letter words and even 3117 5p33k, to people on the "support" mailing list, I knew that Xine would be my player of choice on Linux.
Regarding the GCC 2.96 issue, Bero@RedHat has already shown that the problem is (was?) in mplayer's code and not in the compiler: http://www.bero.org/gcc296.html
It was quite a while ago I tried mplayer, maybe things are better now, but first impressions last. The mplayer authors made it very clear back then that they didn't want any mere users defiling their code by actually using it. Fine by me when there are alternatives.
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 46 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by A.Scott Pringle on 09-Aug-2002 06:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 40 (.john):
as to what it will be called.
well i have no idea that would be upto the author of the package to decide.
I am sure Bernie will let us in on what the product, nicknamed "Berniethlon" V2, will called when he is ready.
I just hope that certain parties that are holding up the release of the product can pull their heads out of the sand and see where the future is. Personally I cannot understand why anyone in would want to shut off an income stream. Especially one for a "new" product.
</my 2 cents>
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 47 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by A.Scott Pringle on 09-Aug-2002 06:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 46 (A.Scott Pringle):
something else which came to mind...
Would/Could Cybergraphx work on amithlon?
Would/Could Someone write their own s/w if they couldn't get a license for something. seems like a very Amigan way to do things 8)
Surely that would be an incentive to act quickly in resolving remaining issues.
</my other 2 cents>
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 48 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by Ole-Egil on 09-Aug-2002 08:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 32 (Bernd Meyer):
"The point is that it is running _at all_. And that I can take it to the local (*cough* 50km each way) user group meeting, start it up, and let people play with it. It exists, and it works."
Heh, in Norwegian terms 50km is VERY local. That's a bikeride to us guys ;-) (NOT motorbike either, I mean regular bicycle)
"Amithlon" Xine demo pics : Comment 49 of 53ANN.lu
Posted by .john on 09-Aug-2002 13:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 45 (Seehund):
You are one of thhe very few I have met as of yet who can not get
MPlayer get running reliably. I am one such guy, btw. ;-)
I never could make it play much more than basic movies, often it would crash
or play the one and refuse on the other.
Anyway, I have decided to give it more tries, since it is integrated into my
STB software and plays the most codecs (if so!)
.john
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Posted by .john on 09-Aug-2002 13:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (Ole-Egil):
Hehe, I knew you Norwegian guys were tough ;-)
.john
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