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Posted on 15-Aug-2002 13:03 GMT by Christophe Decanini51 comments
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Here is a message from Bill Buck and Raquel Velasco on MorphOS-news.de explaining how Thendic will use the Pegasos and MorphOS with smart card readers to provide secure money transactions and other applications.
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Posted by takemehomegrandma on 15-Aug-2002 11:31 GMT
Wasn't that about a completely different product than the Pegasos?
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Posted by DaveW on 15-Aug-2002 11:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 1 (takemehomegrandma):
Im glad someone else is now thoroughly confused :)
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Posted by Marcus Sundman on 15-Aug-2002 11:51 GMT
> This is the primary POS device that we sell.
LOL. "POS" usually means "piece of shit". :-)
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Posted by cOrpse on 15-Aug-2002 12:05 GMT
Sounds very fimilar to the whole turn Amiga into set top boxs ... No one wants them and its the one thing that isn't amiga.
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Posted by mahen on 15-Aug-2002 12:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 4 (cOrpse):
> Sounds very fimilar to the whole turn Amiga into set top boxs ... No one wants
> them and its the one thing that isn't amiga.
It's just a little bonus, we don't really have to care about it...
However I'm very eager to learn more about this handheld pegasos I heard
of...
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Posted by cOrpse on 15-Aug-2002 12:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 5 (mahen):
the pocketPeg would require MAI to make a pretty small chipset etc .. and is morphos really suitable for the portable market ( CPU usagelower battery life ), is morphOS really suitable for anything but laughing at ? who knows ;)
PDA's ultimatly fail anyways .. Look at Psion , perfect OS , perfect machines ... Recently wanted to pull from the consumer market. Geeks are the only ones to buy advanced gadget devices .. everyone else buys blues plastic tacky crap that has some sort of snake game they don't care about features and it has to be cheap.
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Posted by DaveW on 15-Aug-2002 13:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (cOrpse):
Any small footprint OS is suitable for PDAs if it can support the hardware and the
state suspend/resume type operations.
As for future Pegasos revisions becoming PDA enabled, thats just hard work and cost and who
said anything about MAI?
Viable market? I agree with you, probably not. But if they are brave enough to try it who
are we to deride them for it.
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Posted by mahen on 15-Aug-2002 13:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (cOrpse):
> the pocketPeg would require MAI to make a pretty small chipset etc .. and is
> morphos really suitable for the portable market ( CPU usagelower battery life
> ), is morphOS really suitable for anything but laughing at ? who knows ;)
I really don't know anything about that... But a prototype will
(should) be shown on the 4th of december, so we will have more details
at that time...
You really can't help "insulting" MOS, can you ? ;-)
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Posted by Raquel and Bill on 15-Aug-2002 13:33 GMT
Yes, the post on MorphOS-News is about a peripheral device, a smart card reader. It connects to the Pegasos and can add functionality to the applications that run on the machine.
If you are confused, email us. We are happy to answer your questions (hey, cOrpse we have done it before!). But, understand this: it does not change what the Pegasos is. As “mahen” said, we think it is a “little bonus” that can bring some good opportunity to this market.
BTW, inside your mobile telephone you have a SIM card. It is a “smart chip” too and works basically in the same way. We want to put this functionality in the eclipsis along with the smart card features we discussed on MorphOS-News. Have you seen Earthlink’s latest announcement in the USA? Check out http://earthlink.boingo.com/sales/elnkt0402
That is where the market is going…wireless Internet (and now up to 11 megabits per second). The Pegasos is a desktop computer and a development machine. The eclipsis (http://www.thendic-france.com/Tech/US/Products/Eclipsis/eclipsis.htm) is a miniaturized Pegasos. It can still be a small desktop machine for all you non-forward thinkers out there and that is OK. But, for those of you that can catch the idea come join us.
This is not a PDA we are discussing. It is a computer. Have you read about the latest low power PPCs from IBM? Smaller, better, faster…
We did not invent these ideas. The market is sending a clear signal. Do what people already do, just do it better, more conveniently, and anywhere. Was the mobile telephone any different? Have you seen the DoCoMo phones lately? Did you know the largest ISP in Japan was a wireless ISP? 3G is happening there.
So, you guys want to talk about the DataPlay now (www.dataplay.com)? We have licensed that technology for the Pegasos/eclipsis. All these "extras" will be introduced to our developers so they can start building/porting applications for the eclipsis now…
Of course, if you just want a computer that is OK too, but we are really looking for people who have the “spirit” to try something new and work with us to create a new market for these ideas.
Regards,
Raquel and Bill
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Posted by anonymous on 15-Aug-2002 13:44 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Raquel and Bill):
The licensing arrangement with DataPlay is definitely encouraging - sounds like it would be great for an MP3 player.
Likewise, it would be nice to see Hyperion consider support for this under OS4.
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Posted by cOrpse on 15-Aug-2002 13:45 GMT
In reply to Comment 8 (mahen):
You take the insulting to seriously ... I try to mix constructive points that involved the B-Plan with soft insults so it doesn't look like i'm going soft ;)
Although thendics part of the pegasos sorta reminds me of Viscorp ideas ... But only time will tell.
/me is in a good amiga mood now , its finally so stable my little sister can use it and is :D.
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Posted by mahen on 15-Aug-2002 13:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 11 (cOrpse):
> You take the insulting to seriously ... I try to mix constructive points that
> involved the B-Plan with soft insults so it doesn't look like i'm going soft ;)
OK, I know it's not bad, but I just have the feeling that you post
a negative message as soon as a MOS/Pegasos news item is added :)
BTW I know it's not that agressive, we both put a smiley ;-)
I'm a bit like you : as soon as I read an agressive post toward MOS / Pegasos
I have to reply something (generally uninteresting !) !
Most amigans taking part in those discussions are a bit like this,
they are all so passionnate...
So I don't blame you and hope you don't blame me either :)
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Posted by mahen on 15-Aug-2002 13:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Raquel and Bill):
Raquel & Bill,
all this is interesing, but try not to insist too much on this,
as some amigans will get confused, some will think it's
just vapor / blabbering, not amiga related, promises ala aInc
(digital universe ...), etc.
You should focus on the pegasos right now :) :) :)
But I'm sure the miniature version of the pegasos will
interest many of us.
BTW thanks for your answers
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Posted by cOrpse on 15-Aug-2002 14:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 9 (Raquel and Bill):
"We did not invent these ideas. The market is sending a clear signal. Do what people already do, just do it better, more conveniently, and anywhere."
Its got nothing to do with function , feature or quality ... Bang for buck matters , the only people that care about what they're buying when purchasing a PDA , Computer , Cd player etc are the ones that know what they're doing inside out. Joe public looks for Label,Price and gimicks .. they don't give a rats arse if it supports advanced digital media , runs a super small footprint os or that its PPC.
"as the mobile telephone any different? Have you seen the DoCoMo phones lately? Did you know the largest ISP in Japan was a wireless ISP? 3G is happening there."
Japan's a different situation to rest of the world , they're very clued up on the real pro's and cons of electronic devices and not just the pro that this is shinny and half the price of the other.
In the UK and probaly US the mobile phone sales are mostly to teens , this means pay as you talk network services only so your lucky to get sms and voice let alone WAP or *advanced* features and it doesn't matter because the people spending the cash only care if its got snake and allows for cover changing.
And if you want to make money you have to learn its not about what you thinks cool because you have a knowledge of the subject .. You have to aim for those with money and in large groups ; that basically means not geeks or buiness men but the general public.
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Posted by cOrpse on 15-Aug-2002 14:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 12 (mahen):
Hmm if you're really dead set on running amiga apps on a small mobo , i recently got my hands on a slot 1 pc motherboard that looks exactly like a pegasos but with an isa socket , run amithlon on it and i'm sure no one would notice the difference :)
/me wonders of amithlon runs on those little liberrta ( think thats right ? ) pentium portables , there about the same size as a psion that would kick arse :) , there again i was impressed with linux running on my series 3a.
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Posted by Raquel and Bill on 15-Aug-2002 14:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 13 (mahen):
@mahen
Do not worry, the Pegasos is our focus, but unlike VisCorp this time we have a team dedicated to the next step too -- and we are always looking for more like minded individuals. For this, ANN is great and that is the reason we try to be present here.
@cOrpse
Do you think Earthlink (#2 ISP in the USA) would be doing what they are if there was not a market? Forget about what we think...
This is not a general market thread..."we are looking for a few good (people)."
Things happened in Japan the way they did for very specific reasons. This was why it is different. We actually think the eclipsis will be more successful in Europe before it will in North America, but we can go offline for that discussion...
@15 Yes, now you are thinking...:)
Regards,
R&B
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Posted by cOrpse on 15-Aug-2002 14:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (Raquel and Bill):
"Do you think Earthlink (#2 ISP in the USA) would be doing what they are if there was not a market? Forget about what we think..."
AOL IIRC had 30 million customers ... Why , price ( cheap in the UK ) and gimiky.
"This is not a general market thread..."we are looking for a few good (people).""
So your sticking yourself in the niche :( , see thats a *bad* plan , you must produce atleast something general market to make any money ... nokia does this ; cheap phones for the kids , smart phones for the big kids.
"Things happened in Japan the way they did for very specific reasons. This was why it is different. We actually think the eclipsis will be more successful in Europe before it will in North America, but we can go offline for that discussion..."
The saturn was selling in japan years after it failed here , SNK managed to sell £300 + each games in Japan .. Its nothing special .
If you need indepth market info for the UK , i can help out :) , and maybe someone i know could help you with america , he's over there getting staff for the yahoo office he's opening in london .. but i doubt he would buy a pegasos my whole family is team amiga :P ( including cousins , aunts and uncle's )
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Posted by Jack Me on 15-Aug-2002 15:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 17 (cOrpse):
"If you need indepth market info for the UK , i can help out :) , and maybe someone i know could help you with america , he's over there getting staff for the yahoo office he's opening in london .."
No wonder people can't get jobs over here when people like your friend are going to America to find employees for an office in London.:(
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Posted by André Siegel on 15-Aug-2002 16:14 GMT
In reply to Comment 3 (Marcus Sundman):
>> This is the primary POS device that we sell.
> LOL. "POS" usually means "piece of shit". :-)
I don't know what kind of people you're hanging out with... But "POS" is usually an abbrevation for "POINT OF SALE"!
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Posted by cOrpse on 15-Aug-2002 16:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 18 (Jack Me):
IIRC the UK is on a all time low for unemployment ...
And don't worry they selected local people before they went offshore.
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Posted by NihilVor on 15-Aug-2002 16:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (André Siegel):
And not "Pointless Operating System" ? ;-)
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Posted by Marcus Sundman on 15-Aug-2002 16:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 19 (André Siegel):
> > > This is the primary POS device that we sell.
>
> > LOL. "POS" usually means "piece of shit". :-)
>
> I don't know what kind of people you're hanging out with... But
> "POS" is usually an abbrevation for "POINT OF SALE"!
I "hang out with" people in chat rooms and web forums, such as this one, and I have never seen POS been used as "point of sale", but I have seen it used as "piece of shit" a lot (often describing products, e.g. "micro$oft's POS installer").
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Posted by Shawn-AMigaOne on 15-Aug-2002 17:54 GMT
If everyone would go to bplan and moprhos also that news site you would get this info that you are asking and more. Go to the site of Thendic and anything dealing with the Pegasos system. By doing so you woudlont have to ask as many questions. At the very least search on the Pegasos system via google.
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Posted by Sharwin & Rakesh Raghoebardayal on 15-Aug-2002 18:49 GMT
Hello there,
Here is just something to think about concerning the advantages of a smartcard reader on portable devices.
It can be said that the smartcard itself is a storage device which is more personal and secure than any other medium available to the computer, such as the harddisk, static disk or Dataplay disk. One of the great advantages are the electronic money transactions, although this is just one out of many.
The personalization issue means that every smartcard can be assigned to somebody, containing any kind of data which can be highly secure from both the outside and the inside. It is very hard to read protected information from a smartcard unless you know how to access it, which means it can also be personalized in a group, may it be for friends or business. Your smartcard can contain for example your identity, save games and high scores and you can access this data on every machine with a reader, but only when you are there. The card could even be used as a key to your machine, being able to boot only with the card inserted. There are many more features that can be thought of, but this is just to emphasize some of the great features.
Best regards,
Sharwin & Rakesh Raghoebardayal
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Posted by cOrpse on 15-Aug-2002 19:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Sharwin & Rakesh Raghoebardayal):
problem being when someone gets your card with all you tasty bank details and a flaw has just been exposed in its access routines the allow anybody to copy the data from the card.
A better idea is a secure server ( Running OpenBSD of course ) , a honey pot should distract kiddies .. Then run a system similar to the .net passports on it and use the passports to validate requests for sensitive information , charging bank accounts etc .. The card should only ever contain non sensitive information like save games and maybe the username and password for the secure server ( not very secure , but if the cards lost the server can be told to reject it ) .
Number one reason smartcards are insecure is : they're Physical objects and can be lost , stolen and misused like for example a set of keys. They also give someone that wishes to abuse the card something in their hands to work on.
And as for a key to access my computer ... Well i'd rather have shadowed , MD5 passwords.
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Posted by bbrvsrrr on 15-Aug-2002 23:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 24 (Sharwin & Rakesh Raghoebardayal):
Why does it seem that Raquel's lips dont move when Bill (if that really is his name) speaks? And, who the heck is Sharwin and Rakesh?
Whatever can it all mean?
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Posted by gary_c on 15-Aug-2002 23:26 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Marcus Sundman):
> > > This is the primary POS device that we sell.
> >
> >> LOL. "POS" usually means "piece of shit". :-)
> >
> >I don't know what kind of people you're hanging out with... But
> >"POS" is usually an abbrevation for "POINT OF SALE"!
>I "hang out with" people in chat rooms and web forums, such as this one, and I have never seen POS been used as "point of sale", but I have seen it used as "piece of shit" a lot (often describing products, e.g. "micro$oft's POS installer").
POS has been an established abbreviation for "Point of Sale" but is used mostly in the retailing industry and industries that supply retailing software and hardware, etc. For example, software that tracks store inventory and is linked to the cash registers (the "point of sale") to get realtime updates, probably also feeding the info online to store suppliers. Here in Japan the convenience stores have it down to a science, as they sell a lot of bento lunches and other freshly prepared food. When cultures collide we might hear about "POS POS devices" but I haven't seen that yet. Hopefully bPlan/Thendic can avoid that description. :-)
-- gary_c
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Posted by Jürgen Lange on 16-Aug-2002 00:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 22 (Marcus Sundman):
"I "hang out with" people in chat rooms and web forums, such as this
one, and I have never seen POS been used as "point of sale", but I
have seen it used as "piece of shit" a lot (often describing products,
e.g. "micro$oft's POS installer")."
Marcus, I think you have to do a step into the real world. POS is used
for years now. I have a magazine here for Commodore dealers (it is
from 1988) and there you can read about POS (aka point of sale).
Btw. a smart card reader will be a nice device usefull in the near
future.
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Posted by DaveW on 16-Aug-2002 05:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 23 (Shawn-AMigaOne):
Oh curse us for asking questions. We wouldnt have to do any of that we just
need to do a search on Google for Amigaone and it will take us right there.
Im sure Ford would have something to say if you typed in Ford into a search
engine and it took you as a sponsored link to the Citroen site.
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Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 16-Aug-2002 06:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (cOrpse):
> is morphOS really suitable for anything but laughing at ? who knows ;)
Are you really useful for anything but trolling ? Who knows ;)
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Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 16-Aug-2002 06:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (DaveW):
Bah, it's legal, try to search for some common antiviruses and the same kind of
ads will appear, advertising Norton and McAffee.
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Posted by DaveW on 16-Aug-2002 06:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Did I say it was illegal?
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Posted by priest on 16-Aug-2002 06:47 GMT
I wonder why this AmigaDE based device has not been removed from the web if/when it is not going to happen: http://www.thendic.de/US/News/SmartBoy/smartboy.htm
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Posted by alan buxey on 16-Aug-2002 08:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 6 (cOrpse):
...if MorphOS becomes THE Operating System for portable devices that want
AmigaOS compatability then good for them. thats a nice niche market to have.
AmigaOS for big systems...MoprhOS for little ones....with different hardware
vendors...the ideal non-monolistic situation. if such a thing can spring
out of the fights that we've witnessed over the past 2 years then thats an
incredible thing. At least then Amiga diont have to worry about the portable
side of things...they might even lower the licence for the help MorphOS gives ;-)
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Posted by Anonymous on 16-Aug-2002 08:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 29 (DaveW):
search for "Ben Hermans" in google and see what happens :(
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Posted by cOrpse on 16-Aug-2002 08:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 30 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
I'm pretty useful for implementing weird ideas in Perl , PHP or Flash if you're very lucky. I'm also a search engine king :P
Oh and used to able to name most blink 182 and some greenday songs from a couple word ... a maritless attempt to impress a member of the opposite sex but fun non the less.
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Posted by priest on 16-Aug-2002 09:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
I search for "Norton" I get (only) Norton advert.
When I search McAfee, I get (only) McAfee advert.
When I serch for "AmigaOne" I get (only) PEGASOS advert. ( and not if I search for "Amiga" or "computer" etc... not even when I search for "pegasos" !! )
I say it's f*cking nasty marketing! (perhaps legal, but very nasty way)
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Posted by priest on 16-Aug-2002 09:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (Anonymous):
HUH! LOL!
I searched also "Linux" and "osx" and there was no Windows adverts, and I thought M$ was the most nasty company in the world !! ;D
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Posted by DaveW on 16-Aug-2002 09:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (Anonymous):
as if we needed any more evidence that they are very childish.
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Posted by DaveW on 16-Aug-2002 09:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 37 (priest):
Its childish and it matches the bully boy tactics we see on here.
No wonder Compton left.
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Posted by DaveW on 16-Aug-2002 09:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 34 (alan buxey):
Problem is, as it stands they arent going to be compatible. Sure OS3.1 apps will
be binary compatible ( OS3.5 and OS3.9 has EULA restrictions ) but OS4.0 apps will
not be binary compatible and *may* be recompile compatible to a certain extent.
Its not just an idealogical split, its a technical split.
Frankly I think MorphOS and Pegasos should and could stand up on the merits of their own
technical achievement rather than trying to leverage the Amiga brand.
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Posted by Daniel Miller on 16-Aug-2002 09:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 31 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
It's a gag, a funny one. People should try to keep things in perspective.
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Posted by cOrpse on 16-Aug-2002 10:05 GMT
I think thendic ( + the holding company etc ) should get someone that can see out of the paper bag they live in to design their websites before they go using other peoples trademarks and names(!) for their advertising.
They might want someone to help them with the design of their *boy* products ( don't know if its just me , but i think they over use that word on their site ) as they look like retro calculators.
As for targetting different markets ? Flying pegasos' .. What do you reckon the reasoning behind buying every word that has anything to do with os4/amigaOne is.
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Posted by Anonymous on 16-Aug-2002 11:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (priest):
>I searched also "Linux" and "osx" and there was no Windows adverts, and
>I thought M$ was the most nasty company in the world !! ;D
Well then try: www.windows-news.de ;-)
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Posted by Kronos on 16-Aug-2002 11:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 44 (Anonymous):
That was me.
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Posted by DaveW on 16-Aug-2002 12:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (cOrpse):
Careful you are angling for a post from Bill pretending to know who you are, where
you live and what sites you own.
:-D
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Posted by gz on 16-Aug-2002 20:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 25 (cOrpse):
>>Number one reason smartcards are insecure is : they're Physical objects and can be lost , stolen and misused like for example a set of keys.
Well so are bank cards, visa cards, mastercards, gasoline cards etc...
Yet people have been living their lives quite normally and pretty safe with them for over a decade now. I couldn't help but getting a feeling you just wanted to find something negative to say about the product because it's from the "non amiga inc" people.
As for stuff getting lost, you can lose pretty much anything anyway such as keys, money, socks, cats, dogs, ostridges, your penis if not careful enough etc. It's not the fault of the product and therefore shouldn't be critisized for it.
Personally Im not interested in getting a card reader for a computer, but I can see why some people would fancy one. It's an ok idea.
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Posted by cOrpse on 17-Aug-2002 11:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 46 (DaveW):
My sites hosted at a top secret location at the moment , if he ( anyone for that matter ) could find it i'd be surprised.
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Posted by suzuki on 18-Aug-2002 03:33 GMT
Actually the set top box market not only threatend the Amiga, but the whole computing industry as well. Just look at Sony's Plan to make a multimedia device from the Playstation 3. Since Joe Blow doesn't care about quality, he will use an information applaiance instead of a computer. The "Post PC Era" works because the public's indifference to computers. Sad, but true.
By the way, by B-Plan's use of Pegasos for card transactions takes some influence away from the operating system mostly used for banking, OS2.
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Posted by DaveW on 18-Aug-2002 09:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 49 (suzuki):
By the way, no it doesnt.
The OS used primarly for banking operations is OS/390 an the OLTP application
server CICS ( IMS too ). Or are you talking ATMs?
Explain exactly HOW the smart card would do this.
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