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[News] Morphos runs on AmigaOne too.ANN.lu
Posted on 04-Sep-2002 13:04 GMT by Christophe Decanini160 comments
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Bill Buck posted a comment here that says:
Also, we might as well let the thread know that MorphOS runs on the A1 too. We have one of "their" boards and it works! That should settle the issue of "write once, publish anywhere"... Plus, we are happy to sell a Pegasos to Mr. Hermans and his team or anyone else. Ben, you can have one from the next production and you do not even have to be a Betatester...;)
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 101 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by amigammc on 04-Sep-2002 21:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 98 (Steve):
Thanks, I always been something of a comedian ;-)
>When do you expect to see OS 4? Do you think at this time there will still be
>enough interested developers?
Why, you see hundreds of developers jumping to the MorphOS?
I expect to see it before this Christmas, on the magazines at least, my Christmas money is going toward a snowboard trip. In any case, Hyperion is a software developer, and after finished OS4 they will work toward software for OS4 (and some they have already)
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 102 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 04-Sep-2002 21:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 92 (cOrpse):
c0rpse, these problems are rare with 3.8 (on my system) and almost all have been
fixed in the PPC version (mui3.9), and the PPC version I have is ANCIENT, I
don't have the latest one.
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 103 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 04-Sep-2002 21:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 94 (cOrpse):
Cause Rave3D was 68k ONLY at that time (and it still is under AmigaOS).
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 104 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 04-Sep-2002 21:27 GMT
In reply to Comment 98 (Steve):
"amigammc you are a really funny guy ;)
When do you expect to see OS 4? Do you think at this time there will
still be enough interested developers?"
I think hyperion might be interested in porting some games for it :\
"Here what I think: AmigaOS 4 will not be out before summer 2003
optimistically speaking, I think in fact that it'd rather be end
2003/begin 2004. I'm basing this on what I know from OS development "
Its reported that major parts of the inital riscOS released were *knocked up* in a 2 week period ... Theres also a couple "one man" projects that have become quite advanced in a matter of months.
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 105 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 04-Sep-2002 21:32 GMT
In reply to Comment 94 (cOrpse):
Everything is for or from AmigaOS. Everything added something or got something.
CGX, MUI, ppc.lib, warpup, rave3d, warp3d, p96... EVERYTHING!
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 106 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 04-Sep-2002 21:33 GMT
In reply to Comment 103 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
So it wasn't good enough and someone else had to come and sort it out , again.
I count my blessings that certain groups didn't get their hands on Amiga , They would have run you lot down and turned all this into frigg'in set-tops.
They would have said " yes so ... we're going to turn amiga into another PVR" you would have nodded and let um get on with it.
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 107 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 04-Sep-2002 21:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 105 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Ah but these add-ons aren't running the show , a workbench 3.1 floppy doesn't need CGX , MUI etc !
This is my point , hack 'n' patch is fine when you have a fall back , but what happens if it all goes wrong when your on your own ? It fails , you fall , you die.
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 108 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 04-Sep-2002 21:43 GMT
In reply to Comment 102 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
"c0rpse, these problems are rare with 3.8 (on my system) and almost all have been fixed in the PPC version (mui3.9),"
So those 68k users that registered are left out in the cold , nice to see their money was well rewared.
You seem to have no problems , yet I have loads . Wanna swap systems ;).
"and the PPC version I have is ANCIENT, I don't have the latest one."
So they left you out in the cold too ? I'd complain , you don't want them to get too big headed and start taking liberties.
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 109 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 04-Sep-2002 21:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 108 (cOrpse):
1) MUI 4 *WILL* be available for 68k users. They ported 3.9 to MorphOS cause it
was absolutely necessery, as MUI 3.8 crashed under it.
2) Bah, it's just that 3.9 b2 works fine, so I don't NEED another one:)
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 110 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 04-Sep-2002 21:57 GMT
In reply to Comment 109 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
"1) MUI 4 *WILL* be available for 68k users. They ported 3.9 to MorphOS cause it was absolutely necessery, as MUI 3.8 crashed under it."
Ah so the MorphOS amiga box or MUI has *problems* / *imprefections* , I feel so fooled , i was told both MorphOS and MUI was Super Advanced , Super Stable , GOD-LIKE peices of software ... Seems its all been a load of CRAP!
"2) Bah, it's just that 3.9 b2 works fine, so I don't NEED another one:)"
Nah you need another one , everyone needs another one and don't let them take away from you ! Demand your updates !! Otherwise you will be forgotten like FusionPPC owners !!! Its when they make you dress up in a red dress and wig that you know you should leave it , and only then !!!! ;)
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 111 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 04-Sep-2002 22:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 110 (cOrpse):
Ah so the MorphOS amiga box or MUI has *problems* / *imprefections* , I feel so fooled , i was told both MorphOS and MUI was Super Advanced , Super Stable , GOD-LIKE peices of software ... Seems its all been a load of CRAP!
--
MUI 3.8 works in the current MorphOS version, but was quite unstable in 0.2b,
when MUIPPC was released. MUI 3.9 also has some RTG specific stuff, speeding it
up.
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 112 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 04-Sep-2002 22:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 111 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Ah , thats alright then . Aslong as things are *improving*....
Problem is .. People are too willing to treat amiga software / amiga OS's as golden eggs ; Perfect everytime.
Every bit of Amiga software seems to have quirks .. The one that pisses me off the most is the text not showing on wordworth under RTG systems , Or Unarc in OS3.9 being so damn crap compaired with X-Arc. But alas those have never made my amiga unusable when i really need , so they don't stick at the front of my mind.
/me prepares to smash this goddam keyboard with it stupid tiny backspace key grrrr
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 113 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 04-Sep-2002 22:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 112 (cOrpse):
Noone¬hing is perfect, be it an OS, a piece of software etc:)
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 114 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 04-Sep-2002 23:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 113 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Huh? Script bug? Browser bug? Whatever:)
It was supposed to be Noone/nothing
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 115 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Nicolas Sallin on 04-Sep-2002 23:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 109 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
uh ?
MUI3.8 worked fine in MorphOS. You were using a broken setup if it
wasn't the case.
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 116 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Nicolas Sallin on 04-Sep-2002 23:12 GMT
Add a PICASSO=TRUE tooltype to Wordworth icon.
RTFM
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 117 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 04-Sep-2002 23:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 116 (Nicolas Sallin):
Eggs and faces ..
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 118 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by priest on 05-Sep-2002 03:16 GMT
btw. can MorphOS be bought separately or is it freeware even?
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 119 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 05-Sep-2002 05:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 109 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
>Bah, it's just that 3.9 b2 works fine, so I don't NEED another one:)
Sure. Keep using a very stable and good (lol!) CrashAct clone ;)
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 120 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 05-Sep-2002 05:37 GMT
Good news. I think it would be good for everyone if both OS4 and MOS could run on AmigaOne and Pegasos. User can then decide which OS is best for him/her.
I think this is good move from MOS-people. I hope Hyperion and MOS people can continue this.
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 121 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by d2 on 05-Sep-2002 05:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 94 (cOrpse):
The time is changing.
Jay Miner made a fantastic thing, he gave us a spirit, he change us life.
Commodore brings amigas to our homes, and then kill his child and himself.
After commodore, were some corporation which wanted grab as much as they can from leaved away amiga users. when amino was buying amiga rights from gateway i was sure that this is a beginnig of a new way in amiga world. better way. but now i'm not so sure:((
too many years of despair, wars etc ... too many things lost for ever.
when i look in the past i see the light but if i trying to look forward i feeling messy.
Now steped time to choose our way.
We go with mos or we go with aos4.
Morphos+ thendics France or AMiga Inc who will win, who has more power, more money, biger force to get users with self?
ps. sorry for my broken english:)
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 122 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 05-Sep-2002 08:36 GMT
In reply to Comment 102 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
"c0rpse, these problems are rare with 3.8 (on my system) and almost all have been
fixed in the PPC version (mui3.9), and the PPC version I have is ANCIENT, I
don't have the latest one."
Can anyone think of a way to persuade Stefan Stuntz to release an
update to MUI for 68k Amigas?
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 123 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 05-Sep-2002 08:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 119 (Anonymous):
MUI, a ClassAct clone!?
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 124 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Alkemyst on 05-Sep-2002 08:55 GMT
In reply to Comment 92 (cOrpse):
lol to much effort just open the MUI prefs with out even loading an app that uses MUI & change & test things & you can crash MUI
oh its not MUI thats unstable its the MUI prefs prog that is LOL.
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 125 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Alkemyst on 05-Sep-2002 08:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 92 (cOrpse):
oh & i hate MUI & i wish that no SW used it.
& P96 rocks & you should we WB in 1920x1400x24bit on my a1200 060/80Mhz & voodoo3 card :)
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 126 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Kronos on 05-Sep-2002 09:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 125 (Alkemyst):
Sure MUI has it's probs, but it's still far better than ClassAct/ReAction.
Going back to GadTools ? Doing BOOPSI-gadgets by hand ?
Don't think you will see much quality SW that way ;-)
I run P96 on my GF2 (1280x1024x32) no real prob, but also not perfect.
I run CGX_4 on CV-64(1024x768x8) and Picasso2(640x480x8), again no prob.
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 127 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 05-Sep-2002 09:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 122 (Don Cox):
I believe the conventional way to persuade people to write software is to pay them money. Funny old capitalist world, but it works pretty well.
e.g. If you want two months of work done on <foo>, provide me with the current state of the system, pay me $20 000 half now and half when it's finished. It will be done on November 5th. We can agree specific work items in advance, or as-and-when during development.
Of course MUI isn't Free Software so you'll have to pay the guy who has the source code a ransom. Well, bad economics always were a hallmark of the Amiga.
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 128 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Alkemyst on 05-Sep-2002 09:12 GMT
In reply to Comment 126 (Kronos):
being stable is more important to me so the updated GUI in Aos4 would be me just fine
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 129 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Kronos on 05-Sep-2002 09:16 GMT
In reply to Comment 128 (Alkemyst):
ReAction more stable than MUI ? I doubt that, and the little
amount off actaul RA-SW outside OS3.x itself speaks for itself.
How stable OS4 or MOS_1 will be has yet to be seen.
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 130 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Alkemyst on 05-Sep-2002 09:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 129 (Kronos):
so tell me what makes ReAction unstable cos i see most ppl talking about how unstable MUI is than ppl moaning about ReAction being unstable
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 131 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 05-Sep-2002 10:49 GMT
In reply to Comment 127 (Anonymous):
"Of course MUI isn't Free Software so you'll have to pay the guy who has the source code a ransom. Well,
bad economics always were a hallmark of the Amiga."
I paid for MUI. I would pay for an update.
Don't see what more I can do. I would offer to beta test for him if I
had his email address.
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 132 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 05-Sep-2002 10:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 130 (Alkemyst):
"so tell me what makes ReAction unstable cos i see most ppl talking about how unstable MUI is than ppl
moaning about ReAction being unstable"
At present (OS 3.9), Reaction is rather limited and is hardly used. I
think the dreaded AmigaWriter uses it? I can't think of any other
programs.
So it doesn't get pushed very hard. The thought is that an expanded
version with more features, which might actually get used for
programs, would be likely to have more bugs and be stressed more. MUI
gets used for web browsers, which is a very challenging GUI.
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 133 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by amigammc on 05-Sep-2002 11:35 GMT
In reply to Comment 131 (Don Cox):
>I paid for MUI. I would pay for an update.
Same here. I don't understand all this bitching about MUI. I think that piece of software is great.
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 134 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 05-Sep-2002 13:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 130 (Alkemyst):
If a reaction program crashes, ALL reaction programs lock up. This does NOT
happen with MUI.
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 135 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by dammy on 05-Sep-2002 14:04 GMT
In reply to Comment 53 (Justin Smith):
MOS worthless and HYPEOS4 is? You FFOTNC are really pathetic. You all should be eager to show HYPErion's OS out, side by side with MOS and let the public choose which is a better OS. Since your not promoting such a head to head comparision, one will have to conclude HYPEOS4 won't compare too well huh?
Dammy
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 136 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Jacek Piszczek on 05-Sep-2002 14:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 132 (Don Cox):
>At present (OS 3.9), Reaction is rather limited and is hardly used. I
>think the dreaded AmigaWriter uses it? I can't think of any other
>programs.
Well... ImageFX is CrashAct based. And to be honest it's much more stable
when using old ClassAct classes instead of Reaction ones ;) Around 50% of
ImageFX crashes come from Rection's bugs/memtrashes/etc.
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 137 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Justin Smith on 05-Sep-2002 14:51 GMT
In reply to Comment 84 (JoannaK):
Hello, Joanna.
>Having source of old system does not quarantee port does actually work (or >will happen on decent timeframe). As long as entire OS4 project is only >Hearsay and Few screenshots there is only one PPC native OS that runs Amiga >software (unless you consider UAE on linux :-).
Personally, I'd rather take my chances with Hyperion than the MorphOS guys. And it's hardly more than hearsay. Real work is going on, unlike with the A/Box, Pre/Box, and all the other gimmicks RS has cooked up over the years.
But even AmigaOS3.x compatibility isn't all that important to me. Did I mind that AmigaBasic no longer worked on my new Amiga3000? Maybe a little, but then there was AMOS, and BlitzBasic, and I was quickly happy to have left that crappy MS concoction behind. We need new software!
I think back to '89-'90, and wonder what would have happened had Atari tried to roll out a new ST with AmigaOS1.3 compatibility. They would have been laughed at the moment the A3000 and AmigaOS 2.x were released.
AmigaOS 3.x compatibility in MorphOS is almost as worthless.
>Besides. What OS4 spesific software there is? Or is coming in next 1/2 year or >so? Anything not Opensourced and not also available to MOS or OS3.9?
Realsoft 3D Version 4?
Audio Evolution 4?
Sudden Strike?
Dafel: Bloodline?
SIN?
Soldier of Fortune?
Echelon: The Storm?
Quake II?
Just a quick list of some titles reported by AmigaFlame. I'd certainly like to see more, though. How 'bout MorphOS?
>As long as there is no Real and Usable OS4 it has very much much point. Even >after that it may well be better and more stable and to gain more >users/software makers behind it. Name alone does not make OS4 instant success.
Maybe not name alone, but I think you have to admit that The Name is a big advantage. Good luck getting the attention of former Amiga users, for whom "MorphOS" will go in one ear and out the other. More importantly, "AmigaInc" and "AmigaOS" are a giant foot in the door with former Amiga developers and software publishers. Also from AmigaFlame, Realsoft's Managing Director Vesa Meskanen: “The success of our 3D product line started on the Amiga platform. This opportunity to port our latest product generation back to Amiga is therefore very welcome."
Contrast this with "MorphOS who? Is that an operating system? Yes, we got our start on the Amiga, remember it fondly, but what does that have to do with you? No, no thank you."
And most likely won't be so polite. MorphOS will need several years to build an extensive user base to come close to the jump-start AmigaOS has, and at the expense of the real Amiga user base. Good luck, without The Name--they're not going to get away with scamming themselves off as a new Amiga, no matter how many misdirections they throw into Google.
>In the end it's users (and developers) that make final decision. They use the >system they like more. I understand that Os-maker-hyperion won't want to make >Mos-ports of their future games, but I think that those old ones (assuming >they don't include some kind hack to stop them being used on MOS) should work >just fine.
Who's interested in buying a new computer with a new OS to run old Amiga games? Not me. I want new Amiga software, and I don't think MorphOS has a shadow of the chance at attracting developers that AmigaOS4 has.
We need to get realistic. If there's any chance for the Amiga, for us, it's with AmigaOS4.
>And.. Having one system is good.. Having choise of two is IMHO better.
Not if it means cutting the baby in half. Look at what Circuit City's DIVX scam did to DVD, setting back consumer acceptance of digital video for years. Or the DVD-Audio vs. SACD debate that has record companies pushing out archaic compact discs at absurd prices instead of higher-quality, feature packed albums actually worth the money.
MorphOS is hurting the Amiga we all love. I could understand the push behind it when the Amiga was in bankruptcy hell, no hope of future OS development in sight. But now not, not when 30+ top Amiga developers are pouring their souls into AmigaOS4. We've been waiting for this for nearly a decade, but it seems like the community's developed some sort of auto-immune disorder, rejecting the new kidney we've been waiting for in our collective hospital bed.
Sure, two kidneys are great, but not when one is killing the entire body.
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 138 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by David Scheibler on 05-Sep-2002 15:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 137 (Justin Smith):
>How 'bout MorphOS?
Papyrus Office
MotionStudio
BurnIt Pro
BirdieShoot
Alien Nations
Feeble Files
Earth 2150 series
Majesty
Rage Hard
Just a small morphos-news.de list ;)
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 139 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by cOrpse on 05-Sep-2002 16:31 GMT
In reply to Comment 138 (David Scheibler):
"MotionStudio"
No no you got that one wrong , thats a MacOS app . Didn't you hear ? ;)
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 140 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 05-Sep-2002 17:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 137 (Justin Smith):
> Personally, I'd rather take my chances with Hyperion than the MorphOS guys.
> And it's hardly more than hearsay. Real work is going on, unlike with the
> A/Box, Pre/Box, and all the other gimmicks RS has cooked up over the years.
Ah.. I have not been around so long (I was far away of Amiga many years in between). In last 18 or so months they have not done so badly.. Ok, their system is late too, but It was not sold to us as 'soon' over a year ago.
> But even AmigaOS3.x compatibility isn't all that important to me. Did I mind
> that AmigaBasic no longer worked on my new Amiga3000? Maybe a little, but then
> there was AMOS, and BlitzBasic, and I was quickly happy to have left that
> crappy MS concoction behind. We need new software!
Yes.. but it all can't be build or ported overnight.. It'll happen over long period, and all that time people have to get on with Os3.1-3.9 etc software.. And Not all of us can afford to have multiple Amigas, and it will take long time before OS4-only prducts will be commercially valid.
> AmigaOS 3.x compatibility in MorphOS is almost as worthless.
I'm not sure about that.. At least those softwares I'm havign are all older ones. It will take a quite long time to update them all. Not to mention quite impossible cause many good programs have not been developed to last 5 or so years.
>>Besides. What OS4 spesific software there is? Or is coming in next 1/2 year or >>so? Anything not Opensourced and not also available to MOS or OS3.9?
>Realsoft 3D Version 4?
Sounds interesting.. OTOH..their (or is it Hyperions?) Amiga-port seems a bit slow. This is last of their announcement of Amiga...posted December 9, 2000
http://www.realsoft.fi/news/hyprg_pressrel.html
"Realsoft 3D will be available for Amiga OS 3.x and Amiga DE in the course of 2001. Requirements and further details to be announced."
Since then there has been no news atimes mentioning Amiga. So if it's happenign again they are not making much noise of it.
>Audio Evolution 4?
Never hear before---> GOogle -> http://www.audio-evolution.com/
Ah well.. looks like yet another Ababdonware to me.. No updates to website well over a year.. No updates to downloads, no bug fixes.. Like nothing done to it into well over a year.
>Sudden Strike?
>Dafel: Bloodline?
>SIN?
>Soldier of Fortune?
>Echelon: The Storm?
>Quake II?
Games games games... It's good to have some new games (Although IMHO those names look like older ones and many of them are thos delayed item sHyperion should have released years ago) ..
Unfortunately latest Amiga.one can't beat sony-PS2 on games (considering quality, and quantity). With good Gfx-card (+ softwares) Amiga will offer more power, but games need things like big development, good budjets and thus big audiences. And I (+ well over 30 Million others, quite many of them are current or Ex- Amigians) have purchased that thing and games for it last couple years. If Aone had come year ago, I had rather got it and dropped PS2, but Due those delays I got this neat thing instead.
> Just a quick list of some titles reported by AmigaFlame. I'd certainly like to > see more, though. How 'bout MorphOS?
Hmm.. Have not asked cause I have not seen any hurry on jumping into MOS wagon.. I want to see OS before spending too much time on applications ... But what I have seen just by looking into www.morphos-news.de , many well known essentials (frogger, web browsers, vaporware etc) are allready available on native ports not to mentions ports of freeciv etc...
I'll tell more if/when I see those. And use those.
> Who's interested in buying a new computer with a new OS to run old Amiga games?
> Not me. I want new Amiga software, and I don't think MorphOS has a shadow of
> the chance at attracting developers that AmigaOS4 has.
Considering how much there are users for Amithlon. And it can't run any more OS4 stuff than MOS can..
> We need to get realistic. If there's any chance for the Amiga, for us, it's
> with AmigaOS4.
Biggest broblem is that it's nothing sureproof that working OS4 ever appear (or that it's new features gain enough momentum). It may well be good system, but I've been waiting AmigaInc and associates to deliver a bit too long not to look alternatives.
> MorphOS is hurting the Amiga we all love. I could understand the push behind
> it when the Amiga was in bankruptcy hell, no hope of future OS development
> in sight.
I have seen no difference in this.. Amiga.inc is still in middle of nowere. Before I see this OS4/AOne and have to use it I'm not going to be to etheustic about it. Year ago perhaps, but not anymore. And especially not before next year when they hopefully get that combination out in more-or-less working condition.
> Sure, two kidneys are great, but not when one is killing the entire body.
Just have to be sure not to take away the better working one??? And can you be sure even before even looking at them and testing them. I can't, so I wait and make my decision between them AFTER they are available. Meanwhile I use what I happen to have (currently Win2k.. hoping to purchase Blizzrd+Bvision to make my Amiga more or less usable).
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 141 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 05-Sep-2002 23:19 GMT
In reply to Comment 137 (Justin Smith):
>MorphOS is hurting the Amiga we all love.
My beloved Amiga is well and happy awaiting a sister computer with MorphOS.
So your statement is utterly false. :-)
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 142 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Alkemyst on 05-Sep-2002 23:42 GMT
In reply to Comment 141 (Anonymous):
no its not false.
just cos you wsill hgave both does not mean everyone else will.
for alot of ppl it will be one or the other.
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 143 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 05-Sep-2002 23:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 137 (Justin Smith):
Personally, I'd rather take my chances with Hyperion than the MorphOS guys. And it's hardly more than hearsay. Real work is going on, unlike with the A/Box, Pre/Box, and all the other gimmicks RS has cooked up over the years.
--
Pre/Box was a P5 thing. A/Box is working, NOW, on MY OWN SYSTEM, so don't tell
me about real work.
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 144 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Daniel Miller on 06-Sep-2002 00:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 137 (Justin Smith):
Justin Smith typed:
> Maybe not name alone, but I think you have to admit that The Name
> is a big advantage. Good luck getting the attention of former
> Amiga users, for whom "MorphOS" will go in one ear and out the
On the other hand The Name is a disadvantage among those outside
the "community," those who consider the Amiga a quaint, nostalgic
system. MorphOS does not suffer from this perspective, and can
market itself as a new modern thing.
> other. More importantly, "AmigaInc" and "AmigaOS" are a giant
> foot in the door with former Amiga developers and software
> publishers.
That sounds like it makes sense, but the reality is that the
current development is taking place for MorphOS (which has the
advantage of existence) and in fact that is where the majority
of the coding talent is. I think I recall you making a similar
argument that OS 4 will be super duper and ultra compatible
because they have access to the antiquated source code and so
on. That sounds good but does not match the reality, in my
opinion.
It is kind of like saying "well this new basketball player has
the advantage of wearing Michael Jordan's old sneakers" but
those sneakers only take this person so far, at some point he
must actually play basketball. And this requires more than
MJ's sneakers.
In other words the marketing only takes you so far. At some
point you must have a product, a good product. This is where
MorphOS has the advantage.
> In the end it's users (and developers) that make final decision.
I agree with this.
> Who's interested in buying a new computer with a new OS to run
> old Amiga games?
Well, you have a misconception here. MorphOS is not meant to run
old games. Its compatibility is more towards the more recent, well-
written Amiga (tm) applications.
> MorphOS is hurting the Amiga we all love. I could understand the
> push behind it when the Amiga was in bankruptcy hell, no hope of
> future OS development in sight. But now not, not when 30+ top
> Amiga developers are pouring their souls into AmigaOS4.
You are buying deeply into their marketing, you might as well be
writing for McEwen's executive updates. You could try something
like "November 2nd 2001, on schedule and rockin'" next. ;) And why
not make it 90 developers instead of 30? ;)
> Sure, two kidneys are great, but not when one is killing the
> entire body.
It is in the interest of this community I think, that a winner be
declared as soon as possible. I see MorphOS more in tune with the
traditions of this community. I see it as a good product. As
someone who has used an Amiga for years, I have the right to say
that it represents the spirit of the platform better than anything
Amiga Inc. is involved with. So I hope the other kidney goes, and
we all get on with the future.
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 145 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 06-Sep-2002 01:03 GMT
"n other words the marketing only takes you so far. At some
point you must have a product, a good product. This is where
MorphOS has the advantage."
so where can i buy one ?
NOwhere So STFU
its still in beta & how long it will remain in beta is another thing like V3 is a product but for most ppl it has never been out of beta state.
MOS may be in beta for a very long time like V3.
i dont care for a beta product that i cant buy.
when its out to buy before Aos4 then its has that advantage. but only for ppl who are not bothered about having one or the other.
as for me it will make no difference as
if Aos4 never comes out as that would not make me get MOS i would just move over to Mac
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 146 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 06-Sep-2002 06:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 140 (JoannaK):
">Audio Evolution 4?
Never hear before---> GOogle -> http://www.audio-evolution.com/
Ah well.. looks like yet another Ababdonware to me.. No updates to website well over a year.. No updates
to downloads, no bug fixes.. Like nothing done to it into well over a
year. "
Actually the author has been working hard on Version 4, which has many
improvements and new features. If you examine that ghosted image, you
can see some of them.
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 147 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by cheesegrate on 06-Sep-2002 07:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 145 (Anonymous):
?>>if Aos4 never comes out as that would not make me get MOS i would just move over to Mac
why? does that fact that it has been made by developers in the amiga community turn you off?
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 148 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 06-Sep-2002 07:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 147 (cheesegrate):
i dont care about that its made by ppl in the community you.
the fact is i just dont want it.
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 149 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by schnanonymooooos on 06-Sep-2002 08:07 GMT
In reply to Comment 148 (Anonymous):
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. Idiot.
Morphos runs on AmigaOne too. : Comment 150 of 160ANN.lu
Posted by JoannaK on 06-Sep-2002 08:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 146 (Don Cox):
Would be smart to update that page from time to time.. Would not look so bad. Anyhow good to know something is cooking, I foundly remmeber my first uses or Audiomaster and self-made 8-bit digitizer.. (nowdays even PC's can do that :)
Joanna
PS: Any idea about that Real thing? Is it on too?
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