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Posted on 14-Sep-2002 16:48 GMT by Robert Johansson117 comments
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Our all-time favourite Gunne Steen from GGS-Data, Sweden, has taken some screenshots of Ambient/Morphos running on Pegasos. See them here
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 51 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Rafo on 15-Sep-2002 08:00 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (Don Cox):
Shure, but where di you see they were hidden ? Look at'em well and remember it's JPEG stuff.
They're just ghosted or something, you can still see thru the blob what gadget does what.
Last thing : since all this time, don't you know where your window gadgets are located at yet ?
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 52 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 15-Sep-2002 08:03 GMT
In reply to Comment 43 (JohanR):
>Is the Pegasos, like the AmigaOneG3-SE, a licensed clone of a Mai Logic board
>or did they just use the chipset?
This is a very strange question since the Pegasos has no visual appearance
similar to any MAI manufactured board.
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 53 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Don Cox on 15-Sep-2002 08:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 51 (Rafo):
"Last thing : since all this time, don't you know where your window
gadgets are located at yet?"
They are in a different place in each OS. If you are using two or
three OSes together, a visual reminder is needed.
Also, one day we may hope to attract some new Amiga/MorphOS users.
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 54 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 15-Sep-2002 08:09 GMT
In reply to Comment 35 (Rob):
>Looks like MorphOS is nothing more than 3.x with a few hacks and
>patches being run through a hardware abstraction layer.
No, it looks entirely different.
>If it was built from the ground up then why doesn't it look any
>different from 3.x. Or was it simply that they couldn't be bothered
>to make it stand out from 3.x.
You want to alienate the users from the Amiga platform?!
>What features can one expect from MorphOS,
A diverse feature set eventually...
>what roadmap is there for the OS.
To become a very cool OS.
>At least with OS4 we know more or less what will be supported
>in the first and then the following releases.
OS5, eh? ;-)
>I mean so far it has been announced that morphOS will support apps
>that will work on the classic. they dont give any information about
>the OS itself
It's just you are not willing to read.
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Posted by Johan Rönnblom on 15-Sep-2002 08:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 51 (Rafo):
IMO that's not an argument. Then we could just forget about a desktop
altogether, I mean people should know the approproate keyboard
combinations after all this time, shouldn't they, and besides it's a
lot faster that way if you know it..
Really, a GUI should be as self-explanatory as possible, and I don't
think I like the "blobs" too much. But hey, what does it matter?
Before it's released, I'm sure you'll have other choices. Don't even
expect it to look exactly like in these screenshots by default.
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 56 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 15-Sep-2002 08:15 GMT
In reply to Comment 53 (Don Cox):
>Also, one day we may hope to attract some new Amiga/MorphOS users.
Are they not made to be replacable through skins or MUI prefs?
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 57 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by tinman on 15-Sep-2002 08:47 GMT
In reply to Comment 48 (Rafo):
Scalos is not an entirely MUI based WB. The prefs and modules (modules being things like the delete, information, etc windows) come as MUI but the actual drawer windows are all standard intuition windows.
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 58 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by m0ns00n on 15-Sep-2002 09:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 49 (Don Cox):
I think it is quite evident that all Amiga software developers needs more pro designers. They don't even know the first thing about designing.
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 59 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Lasse Bodilsen on 15-Sep-2002 09:16 GMT
Have the pictures been taken offline??.
Does anyone have a backup of them.
LB
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 60 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 15-Sep-2002 09:48 GMT
In reply to Comment 59 (Lasse Bodilsen):
Yes, they are not online anymore. The text at the top says "Here you can se some pictures of the Pegasos motherboard. We also hope to show some screenshots soon as well".
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 61 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by treqie on 15-Sep-2002 09:52 GMT
Ralph Schmidt didn't like it, and emailed them and told them to remove it.
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 62 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by takemehomegrandma on 15-Sep-2002 09:52 GMT
In reply to Comment 38 (Anonymous):
> Other than newer versions of Amiga programs, then no...
Those "newer versions of Amiga programs" are MorphOS native PPC programs.
> What programs are there that run on MorphOS that do not use the Amiga
> API/emulation layer?
You have to separate the Amiga API from Amiga Emulation. It's not the same thing. The API looks and acts similar to the Amiga API, but it is an interface to *native* MorphOS PPC functions. That makes migration easy, but it doesn't mean that MorphOS is the same thing as the old AmigaOS. It's a lot more than that.
Emulation is a whole different matter, so you can't just write "API/emulation" as you did ...
> Does MorphOS have a native, wholely its own, desktop?
Yes. Did you missed that?
> This is an Real OS, right?
Absolutely.
> Not just a kernal with an API/emulation layer on it..
> It's more than just Lindows, right?
I suggest that you update yourself in both what an operating system is, and then what MorphOS is. Information of both is available on the Internet. Then it will become very clear to you that MorphOS is a complete and new Amiga *style* OS that not only is API compatible to the old Amiga OS, it also offers lots of *new* features that's expected from a modern OS.
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 63 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 15-Sep-2002 10:17 GMT
In reply to Comment 16 (cOrpse):
> The eyecandy in os4 will be down to the person hyperion choose to do it and at this work in progress point of time it would be silly to start thinking it seriously.
Nope... At least it SHOULD ultimately be down to the user itself, who may a)use "default" ones, or b)Use some created by someone else or c)Create some of his own
Just saying, no-one should insult default GUI look of MorphOS or AmigaOS4; It's the configurability that really matters
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 64 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Rob on 15-Sep-2002 10:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 54 (Anonymous):
What features can one expect from MorphOS
>A diverse feature set eventually
That's not very specific though is it. I could say to an employer
that I have a diverse range of skills. They won't employ me if they
don't know what those skills are though will they.
What roadmap is there for the OS
>To become a very cool OS.
That doesn't actually say anything either. We know with Amiga there
will several releases with the 4.x tag. 4.2 will see more modules
becoming PPC native. Hyperion intend to rewrite Warp3D (Nova).
For all we know MorphOS could just be a heavily patched 3.x system, at
least with OS4 you can read about what's actually happening.
>It's just you are not willing to read.
Point me in the right direction and I'll read. Until I see
information to the contrary then I'm not convinced that MorphOS is
anything more then Amithlon for PPC.
Please prove me wrong.
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 65 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 15-Sep-2002 10:54 GMT
In reply to Comment 64 (Rob):
The AmigaOS roadmap isn't impressive because they aren't doing what it says on the roadmap. If I have the choice between a blank sheet of paper, and a map which says among other things that New York and California are land locked states in the center of the USA, I'd take the blank sheet.
OS 4.0 was supposed to be out last summer, OS 4.2 is supposed to have AmigaDE and run on any Zico compliant device (but Ben Hermans says the endian problem makes this too hard to be worth doing). OS 4.5 was supposed to be out this summer, and was to include FireWire, lots of SCSI drivers, accelerated 3D for the latest Matrox cards, as well as the features of OS 4.2.
OS 5.0 is a Fleecy fantasy. Despite it being due this Christmas, Ben Hermans has very sensibly denied any interest in making Fleecy's wild ideas into an operating system, and Amiga Inc. have already proved that they simply don't have the talent to make it happen themselves.
Now, frankly I don't believe MorphOS will deliver very much either, but I wouldn't change my mind about that just because they get someone to scribble down a list of ideas for the future and call it a "roadmap".
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 66 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by anon on 15-Sep-2002 11:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 41 (Don Cox):
Well, the point is ok, but not very well thought through.
You can of course change the imagery for inactive windows to your own liking. If you want gadgets stay clearly visible, just copy the active gadgets over the inactive gadgets (in the skindrawer or what its called)
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 67 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by André Siegel on 15-Sep-2002 11:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 49 (Don Cox):
"After the iMac appeared, there was a rash of translucent turqoise
products in the shops, mindlessly imitating the iMac. Those blobs are
the same."
The full release of MorphOS will feature an alternative set of system gadgets. So, no need to worry, Don.
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 68 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 15-Sep-2002 11:56 GMT
In reply to Comment 64 (Rob):
A heavilly patched 3.x system? Nope, not at all. It contains a FULLY PPC native
AmigaOS 3.x replacement, binary compatible with it through 68k emulation.
This has been built by mixing their code with (heavilly tweaked) AROS code.
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 69 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Rafo on 15-Sep-2002 11:59 GMT
In reply to Comment 55 (Johan Rönnblom):
Well, obviously neither you nor Don Cox undestrood what I meant.
I'm an Amiga User.
You're an Amiga User.
Don't you know where the gadgets on YOUR WORKBENCH are located ?
Who talked about any other OS ?
But f'get it, I'm not gonna make it a big deal.
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 70 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Frodon on 15-Sep-2002 14:02 GMT
Hello,
This gadgets discussion is completely useless and stupid. On MacOS X the gagdets are completely white without any symbols when a window is inactive and this never shocked anybody even the most beginner.
Regards
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 71 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Bladerunner on 15-Sep-2002 14:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 63 (Anonymous):
Amithlon: Minimalistic Linux Kernel running an Amigaemulator, on Top OS 3.9
Morphos: Complete PPC native OS without an Amiga OS, but able to use Software
made for AmigaOS. If you want to compare I think MorphOS is more like Aros (which is
also a reprograming of the old Amiga OS) but with the ability to run your old 68k Software without
the need for recompiling.(Of course the native apps will run faster...)
Is that enough for you?
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 72 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by anonymous on 15-Sep-2002 15:42 GMT
Another battle is heating up: who will have the ugliest GUI. I can't believe that some people actually liked these screenshots!
By far the best design I've seen was unsolicited:
www.simoami/com/amiga
Thendic/bPlan or Amiga/Hyperion should jump at the opportunity to get this guy on board.
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 73 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Sigbjørn Skjæret on 15-Sep-2002 16:24 GMT
In reply to Comment 72 (anonymous):
Incase you totally missed the point, what you saw on those screenshots was a *skin*, that's right, you can change the appearance to whatever you like, even that concept you link to...
The skin you saw in those screenshots aren't even the finished thing, and will only be one of many available to you at release.
It's pointless critizing the works of a gfx artist as flaws in an OS .. anyway, there were obviously lots of ppl who disagreed with you in this thread .. taste is a matter of personal opinion (which is why skins are a *very* good thing)...
- CISC
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 74 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 15-Sep-2002 22:05 GMT
In reply to Comment 62 (takemehomegrandma):
sorry, I meant 68k emulation. Basically, what can MorphOS run with out the 68k emulation and AmigaOS API? What I want to know is with out this ability to run old Amiga programs, what is MorphOS? what can it run?
Also, I assume MorphOS is a meaningful name, will there be other API layers like the Amiga one available? Say a Mac API layer or Linux or BSD...
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 75 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 15-Sep-2002 22:08 GMT
In reply to Comment 64 (Rob):
That's what I'm wondering too...
Where is MorphOS going? What is it's point for existing?
It must have a purpose....
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 76 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 15-Sep-2002 22:11 GMT
In reply to Comment 67 (André Siegel):
IE. differently shaped and colored blobs...
hmm, BlobOS
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 77 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 15-Sep-2002 22:13 GMT
In reply to Comment 71 (Bladerunner):
Oh, so it's like AROS but with a look at the source code...
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 78 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Bladerunner on 15-Sep-2002 22:18 GMT
In reply to Comment 77 (Anonymous):
prove it or be quit.. i can`t hear this "uhh, Mos team has stolen the AOS Sourcecode" crap
anymore!
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 79 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Marijan on 16-Sep-2002 05:53 GMT
Well, I/ve been at O.A.S.E. at Graz yesterday (Sunday) and this is what I can say about MorphOS and Pegasos: They said to me that the main difference between MorphOS and OS 4.0 is that MorphOS is working and OS4.0 isn't yet. well, that is some big bullshit, 'cos what I saw from MorphOS was some half-working workbench (half of the menus were missing, drag-and-drop wasn't working at all, functionality is sub-par to that of OS4.0 and classsic amiga emulation failed to work so much time that it was embarassing). And OS4.0 WAS working (although not on the AmigaONE) and working GOOD. And about hardware all I can say that Pegasos is much more cleanly implemented than AmigaONE and it looks much more professional. So conclusion is this: I want Pegasos ('coz I think it is better board (and working)) BUT if I can't run OS4.0 on it it worthless (MorphOS isn't nowhere near ready for even a beta, although they say it is BETA). So if it won't run OS4.0 I'll buy AmigaONE although I like Pegasos more. But software is what sells hardware so if Thendic wants all for themselves than be it, I wont buy it. So it is ultimatly upon them to decide what they want. And one last point, I work in software development firm so I know a lot about development cycles, especially with small teams. Man told that MorphOS will be ready till November. Well, from what I saw and what was missing, that is not possible, lot of things are missing or not working properly so I won't hold my breath for MorphOS in few months from now on. But as I said OS4.0 was looking extremely promising and lots of things were running with full funcionality so December release could be reality (although some things could go wrong, offcourse).
Marijan Franovic
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 80 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Casey R Williams on 16-Sep-2002 08:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 74 (Anonymous):
>>sorry, I meant 68k emulation. Basically, what can MorphOS run with out the 68k emulation and AmigaOS API? What I want to know is with out this ability to run old Amiga programs, what is MorphOS? what can it run?
Hrrmm... Let's see if I've got this straight. MorphOS doesn't have an AmigaOS API, rather its own API is an AmigaOS-like API. So if an Amiga app calls this API, it will work as if it were running on an Amiga, and will use emulation to handle the 68k functions. But only with Amiga apps, as MorphOS is PPC native its own apps do not need emulation. Functions not present in AmigaOS will not be called by the Amiga apps, so they could add practically anything they want to their OS and still be able to run Amiga apps just as well. Think of it as like running a 1.x app on a 3.x Amiga.
>>Also, I assume MorphOS is a meaningful name, will there be other API layers like the Amiga one available? Say a Mac API layer or Linux or BSD...
I suppose the Quark kernel could be the basis of other environments, but the MorphOS API was only designed to run Amiga (and MOS) apps AFAIK.
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 81 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Sam Thomas on 16-Sep-2002 08:53 GMT
Err.. where are the screen shots then?
I have had a look at the URL linked to from the news article but all it has thier is two pictures of what I guess is the Pegasos motherboard?
Cheerio
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Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 16-Sep-2002 09:02 GMT
In reply to Comment 79 (Marijan):
You are mistaken. I use MorphOS on my machine every day. It works... It's
STABLE, FAST, NICE and I *REALLY* wonder what 68k prog you did run and it
failed... And what you saw was NOT OS4,on PPC, it was on 68k.
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 83 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 16-Sep-2002 09:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 79 (Marijan):
Why don't you say everything? That ImageFX failed, BECAUSE A LIBRARY WAS
MISSING!?. Does ImageFX run on YOUR system if you have no classact or reaction!?
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 84 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 16-Sep-2002 09:41 GMT
In reply to Comment 79 (Marijan):
BTW, if you weren't a MOS hater and did pay attention to the presentation,
they said that it would be available in December, not November.
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 85 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Mahen on 16-Sep-2002 10:21 GMT
In reply to Comment 79 (Marijan):
???????????
You only saw Amiga OS 3 running with some OS 4 components
(on a 68k machine)...
MOS is almost ready, only lacks some "superfitial" work (ambient
mainly)... I own a pegasos with it and it works well...
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 86 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by mahen on 16-Sep-2002 10:25 GMT
In reply to Comment 85 (Mahen):
superficial (? not native english speaker...)
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 87 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Marijan Franovic on 16-Sep-2002 11:50 GMT
In reply to Comment 84 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
I talked to Mr. Schober and it was he that gave me that information (and that information was given to him by someone from the MorphOS camp, obviously).
And no, I am in no way MorphOS hater (although because of the stupid comments I hear everyday I am quickly becoming hater of the entire Amiga scene, the so called "community").
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 88 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Marijan Franovic on 16-Sep-2002 11:53 GMT
In reply to Comment 85 (Mahen):
Well, designing GUI (and finishing it so that it would work flawlesly) takes time in the firm I am working (and that is with the ready to go GUI builders and RAD tools available). Also as I said, functionality was missing, complete Window menu wasn't there, drag-and-drop was only shown in the prefs, sorry In our firm we also have that kind of software for presentations - and we call it fakes.
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 89 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Marijan Franovic on 16-Sep-2002 12:01 GMT
In reply to Comment 83 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Only thing that I DID see WORKING was Voyager for MorphOS and Maxon Cinema 4d, everything else didn't work (AmigaAMP for example failed every time it was started - powerup mode, 68k mode, Imagine didn't work, ImageFX didn't work - I don't care why). But that is not my point, my point is that funcionality was missing which I think cannot be written in one month and be working good.
And 'coz I had various Phase5 hardware and software over the years I think I can say that I am not suprised. Their hardware was allways good (although a bit late) but software was good in x iteration version (and a years late).
And that was one point that I tried to say, release the hardware and let software firms do something with it. And users will decide if it is worth. For now, OS4.0 looks much better (and much more finished) than MorphOS.
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Posted by Marijan Franovic on 16-Sep-2002 12:06 GMT
In reply to Comment 85 (Mahen):
I KNOW what I saw, and I said it above. I saw good-looking, good-working board (Pegasos) with half-working, half-stable OS (MorphOS). And I saw half-working, not-so-good looking board (AmigaONE) and one OS that is looking good AND working (OS4.0).
And that are the facts.
When these products are ready I will decide for final, but for now Hyperin have done better job. Period.
Marijan Franovic
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Posted by LorD on 16-Sep-2002 12:20 GMT
In reply to Comment 90 (Marijan Franovic):
It is not a working OS since it is not working on an AmigaOne... and it is not a little step to make an OS to ork an a different hardware (drivers, 68k to PPC recompilation, put the 68k emulation, etc....)
So OS 4.0 is far from being working.
Ambient is not yet finished but it is only some features that are lacking. The OS itself is definitively working and the biggest part have already been done months ago.
ImageFX does work on my Pegasos, AmigaAMP does work too... and lot of others softwares are working and others not, it will be the same on OS4, but it is already possible to test them on Morphos...
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 92 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 16-Sep-2002 12:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 89 (Marijan Franovic):
AmigaAMP worked fine, Imagine wasn't even in the HD, of course it didn't work.
You cannot run a program you don't have:) ImageFX didn't work cause the reaction
classes were missing. You can "achieve" the same thing in AOS4 or OS3.9 by
removing that:)
OS4 looks much more finished?! But OS4 was running on 68k!!
*NOT* PPC!
What looked finished? WB 3.9? Intuition V50? Media(HD)Toolbox? FFS2?
These are parts of OS4 still running on 68k machines. So no, you did
NOT see OS4, you saw os3.9 or 3.5 or 3.1, with the latest OS4 modules.
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 93 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 16-Sep-2002 12:23 GMT
In reply to Comment 90 (Marijan Franovic):
Were you drunk at the show? YOU DID NOT SEE OS4!
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 94 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 16-Sep-2002 12:29 GMT
In reply to Comment 92 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Actually, they did not run AmigaAMP 68k AT ALL! Only the PuP version, which
DID run, but crashed on exit, as it does on my machine under WarpOS.
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Posted by Marijan Franovic on 16-Sep-2002 12:30 GMT
In reply to Comment 93 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Well, you know what, maybe I would see much more stable and functional MorphOS if I was drunk. But comments like yours are truly fantastic. Well, enjoy yourself. Nice talking to you.
Marijan Franovic
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Posted by Alkis Tsapanidis on 16-Sep-2002 12:38 GMT
In reply to Comment 95 (Marijan Franovic):
What I know is that all people that were there I asked minus you said that
they said OS4 intuition and stuff under 68k and a trully fantastic MorphOS.
Now, how did YOU see an unfinished and unstable MorphOS, I don't know...
BTW, your unstable and unfinished MOS has been working for 5 days crash free
on my BROKEN P5 hardware...
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Posted by Amon_Re on 16-Sep-2002 13:10 GMT
In reply to Comment 96 (Alkis Tsapanidis):
Could you please calm down? It's just an OS for crying out loud; besides, when it's released to the public we'll know for sure :)
Oh, also, how can MOS run on broken hardware? Ok, it depends on the defect et al, but still... :)
Amon_Re
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Posted by Anonymous on 16-Sep-2002 13:39 GMT
In reply to Comment 87 (Marijan Franovic):
>And no, I am in no way MorphOS hater (although because of the stupid comments
>I hear everyday I am quickly becoming hater of the entire Amiga scene, the so
>called "community").
Don't mistake the MOS luzers for the 'amiga' community.
All the losers jumped to the MOS camp, all the cool people stayed with Amiga.
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 99 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by anon on 16-Sep-2002 14:34 GMT
In reply to Comment 98 (Anonymous):
I wonder how your cool people will provide you with software.
Ah I forgot, blitzbasic is becomming popular again....
Screenshots of Morphos/Ambient : Comment 100 of 117ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 16-Sep-2002 14:40 GMT
In reply to Comment 99 (anon):
LOL! And you will be getting what? a RS bobblehead?
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